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Wasn't HE a Rabbi?
 
y the time Jesus began his public ministry, he had not only received the thorough religious training typical of the average Jewish man of his day, he had probably spent years studying with one of the outstanding rabbis in the Galilee. Jesus thus appeared on the scene as a respected rabbi himself. He was recognized as such by his contemporaries, as passages in the New Testament illustrate:

And Jesus answered and said to him, “Simon, I have something to say to you.” And he said, “Rabbi, what is it?” (Luke 7:40)

A lawyer asked him a question to test him: “Rabbi, what is the greatest commandment in the Torah?” (Matthew 22:35-36)

And behold, a [rich] man came up to him and said, “Rabbi, what good thing must I do to have eternal life?” (Matthew 19:16)

And someone in the crowd said to him, “Rabbi, order my brother to divide the inheritance with me.” (Luke 12:13)

And some of the Pharisees in the crowd said to him, “Rabbi, rebuke your disciples.” (Luke 19:39)

Some of the Sadducees came up to him…and they asked him, saying, “Rabbi….” (Luke 20:27-28)
 
Jesus speaking to his disciples:

NLT: Matthew 23:8 "Don't let anyone call you 'Rabbi,' for you have only one teacher, and all of you are equal as brothers and sisters.

KJV: But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.

If I understand that right, that means the Jesus was the last Rabbi. Because if he's telling the Apostles and immediate disciples that they shouldn't allow people to call them Rabbi, then who else after Jesus would ever be worthy of that title?
 
welder said:
Ok this part of the thread is out of my league, but I answered no because I thought I read some where he refused to accept the title of Rabbi. Ok I am out of this thread.
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Mark, I think you're talking about when Jesus said the following:

Mark 10:17-18
New Living Translation (©2007)
As Jesus was starting out on his way to Jerusalem, a man came running up to him, knelt down, and asked, "Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?" "Why do you call me good?" Jesus asked. "Only God is truly good.

Weymouth New Testament
As He went out to resume His journey, there came a man running up to Him, who knelt at His feet and asked, "Good Rabbi, what am I to do in order to inherit the Life of the Ages?" "Why do you call me good?" asked Jesus in reply; "there is no one truly good except One--that is, God.

These verses are out of my league. I have no idea what it means.
 
In two thousand years will people be discussing Harry Potter and questioning its meanings?
 
Grant said:
In two thousand years will people be discussing Harry Potter and questioning its meanings?
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It's not likely unless we find 4000 years of accurate predictions of his broom flying and coming from a bad family's closet. :groucho:
 
The literal meaning of Rabbi is teacher. So, I can say that Jesus is my Rabbi.
 
Great thread! I don't know why I had come upon this until now.

Tony, next week I want to give some thought on what you mentioned a page ago: "what did Bereans study/what did Timothy study?" I've been looking into that myself recently, as I have a lot of questions as to the actual "books" of the Bible and why we have the ones we do and not others.

....And here is one more fun one that I've been looking at lately......in Corinthians, (i don't have a bible in front of me) there is a passage where Paul talks about head coverings/women's hair. At one point he says, "cover your head, so as to not tempt the angels". A friend and I have been discussing this and the possible meanings.

I'm like you guys---I learn a lot more by discussing with people that may not be of the same congregation as I. For instance, I've never considered what ScottS said about David's sin of murder. Def gives me something to think about. But Scott, here is my first thought: assuming that is your belief, what would happen if someone cuts you off in traffic tomorrow, and you roll down the window and curse loudly at him and flip him off. I'll assume you'd find that to be a sinful act. But it is traffic, and the guy responds in-kind and drives away, never to be seen by you again. You'd never be able to get "true forgiveness" as you've defined it. Thoughts?
 
welder said:
Ok this part of the thread is out of my league, but I answered no because I thought I read some where he refused to accept the title of Rabbi. Ok I am out of this thread.
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Mark,
Its Ok to be out of your league here,
Most of the time I am out of my league even when I am speaking.
We are all learning and are continuing to learn every day and the kicker is .....our little mortal minds can't even come close to comprehending Gods Glory!

On a side note ....we just got back from a Christmas Drama Play on the Crucification of Christ and several people came to accept Christ as their Saviour
On of the Highlights were when An 8 yr old boy came up and wanted to touch the cross after he accepted Christ and you should have seen the look on his face when the preacher asked him where he was going to go when the time came......He gave the biggest grin and just pointed up!!!
I am not sure even where Heaven is .....but one day I will find out for sure!!!
 
JFife said:
I'm like you guys---I learn a lot more by discussing with people that may not be of the same congregation as I. For instance, I've never considered what ScottS said about David's sin of murder. Def gives me something to think about. But Scott, here is my first thought: assuming that is your belief, what would happen if someone cuts you off in traffic tomorrow, and you roll down the window and curse loudly at him and flip him off. I'll assume you'd find that to be a sinful act. But it is traffic, and the guy responds in-kind and drives away, never to be seen by you again. You'd never be able to get "true forgiveness" as you've defined it. Thoughts?
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As you may, or may not know, I believe that you have to work out your salvation. I don't have a Bible right in front of me to give you the passages, but, we believe that Christ atoned for our sins, so that we have the chance to return to be with God. It makes no difference whether or not you have accepted Christ, if you don't act like you did.
That being said, first, I would not be one to flip someone off. That would require getting angry, and I just don't. But, if it did happen, that is where grace comes in and the intent of your heart. Something like that, it would be fairly easy to apologize for, and seek forgiveness for, if you were put in that position, except for the efforts it would take to man up. It would be impossible to apologize to someone that is dead, in this life. It would also be impossible for you or I to restore a life, if not impossible, really unlikely, and if you did, then it would not be murder.
God does know the intent of our hearts in this type of situation, and I feel he honors it. If you murder someone, the intent of your heart is obvious. Accidentally killing someone, or killing someone in self defense is a different story, and does not qualify as murder. Even in Ecclesiastes it says there is a time to kill. There is NEVER a proper time to murder.
 
Scott Stone said:
..... It makes no difference whether or not you have accepted Christ, if you don't act like you did.....
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Scott, that is a great thought.

That should be the goal of every believer walking the earth. I know it is my goal. But we are pathetic human beings and each one of us have our own things to work on and sometimes those things take time.

I might flip you off on the road. I don't want to, but it's my nature. I'm working on it and ten years from now maybe I'll be better. :victory:
 
Recently, I choose not to share about a 8yr old in our church who had cancer.
Today I decided to share her story........

Her name is Kristin Beaucher.
She was diagnosed with a type of brain cancer at age 2.
At her early age of 8 years the cancer came back.
About one month ago she went blind due to pressure on her optic nerve.
Her last visit in church was about 2 weeks ago and the whole church laid hands on her for a miracle healing (if it was in his will)

We also had a walk-a-thon and a Bike-a-thon which raised near 10,000 for the family because both parents left their jobs to spend quality time with their daughter.

She wanted to see fireworks one more time and family set it up for the fire department to set them off for her before she passed.
As it is right now they are still going to have them for her tomorrow night.....she is just going to be looking down one them instead of looking up.

Kristin Beaucher passed away last night at 8 years of age.
The preacher today spoke on day she recited the ten commandments in front of the congregation and at her very young age she accepted Christ as her Savior.

God want us to rejoice when one of his comes home, but sometimes that is hard to do.

I know some don't agree with my posts lately and I am sorry if they may offend anyone.
But this is a reminder that life is short and when you have to go through something like what this family is going through right now....they are not alone and they have the assurance that they are going to be reunited with their daughter one day.
For you prayer warriors out there....The Beaucher family would greatly appreciate them.
 
Al Patterson said:
Recently, I choose not to share about a 9yr old in our church who had cancer.
Today I decided to share her story........

Her name is Kristin Beaucher.
She was diagnosed with a type of brain cancer at age 2.
At her early age of 9 years the cancer came back.
About one month ago she went blind due to pressure on her optic nerve.
Her last visit in church was about 2 weeks ago and the whole church laid hands on her for a miracle healing (if it was in his will)

We also had a walk-a-thon and a Bike-a-thon which raised near 10,000 for the family because both parents left their jobs to spend quality time with their daughter.

She wanted to see fireworks one more time and family set it up for the fire department to set them off for her before she passed.
As it is right now they are still going to have them for her tomorrow night.....she is just going to be looking down one them instead of looking up.

Kristin Beaucher passed away last night at 9 years of age.
The preacher today spoke on day she recited the ten commandments in front of the congregation and at her very young age she accepted Christ as her Savior.

God want us to rejoice when one of his comes home, but sometimes that is hard to do.

I know some don't agree with my posts lately and I am sorry if they may offend anyone.
But this is a reminder that life is short and when you have to go through something like what this family is going through right now....they are not alone and they have the assurance that they are going to be reunited with their daughter one day.
For you prayer warriors out there....The Beaucher family would greatly appreciate them.
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Our pastors email
Kristin Beaucher passed away 2:30 am. Sunday morning. She was 9 years old and on every heart at Solid Rock church family

And many more we were praying for her healing. Today Kristin is totally and eternally healed and with our Lord and loved

Ones who have gone on before us. When funeral arrangements are given I will pass them on.



One of Kristin’s dying wishes was to see her dad’s fireworks fired off. Monday night her wishes will be honored. At 6:30

Pm. Monday night in the church parking lot they will be enjoyed in honor of her wishes. You are invited to be there.



Pastor Mike
 
See this is what I dont get? Little innocent kids get these horrible diseases and die so young. Then we have scum of the earth walking amongst us that do nothing but bring pain to others. Where is God's justice in all this, I always here people say well she/he is in a better place now?

I am sure if you ask Kristan's parents if they would rather have their beautiful little girl back or have her in a better place , "that no one knows about" I am pretty sure we know the answer to that. How many of you would be willing to leave your families right now for that better place. I know that for me I want to spend as much time as humanley possible around my family.

Sometimes I think there is really way to much evil in this world to justify all the words of wisdom. I hope that when the time comes we all find what were looking for.
 
The Cleaner said:
See this is what I dont get? Little innocent kids get these horrible diseases and die so young. Then we have scum of the earth walking amongst us that do nothing but bring pain to others. Where is God's justice in all this, I always here people say well she/he is in a better place now?
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Sounds like you don't like the guy who brought all this suffering into the world. Why not fight against him? :thumbup:

Here's an example:

Thinking that God just simply allows this suffering is like thinking that if someone broke into your house then it's the Mayor's fault.

The mayor has set things into place to help keep crime (evil) to a minimum. He's even shown examples of charity and helping others and gets on TV and tells the benefits of looking out for your neighbors and putting others first.

But everyone doesn't listen to the mayor. Some call him a kook. Some rebel completely against him and break into your house and take your TV!

Some blame the Mayor. But how can the mayor even begin to protect your house without a system in place to reduce crimes like that? Blaming it on the Mayor is blaming it on the wrong guy.

What about the neighbors that turn the other way when they see a criminal breaking into your house? How about the pawn shop owner that accepts your TV? How about the criminal himself who thinks of himself above all others? The root of his actions come from not listening to the Mayor about putting others first and helping others.

These people are all guilty and form a group that allows evil to permeate society. NO, the pawn shop owner didn't break into your house, but he didn't allow the Mayor's system to influence him to TURN THE STOLEN MERCHANDISE AWAY.

God has a system too. With the exception of the crusades (which were caused by a complete misunderstanding of Christ and his mission) and some other instances, Christianity has been the keel that keeps mankind from annihilating each other.

Before the Flood murder was rampant and there was no respect for life. We see that all over the place today where Christianity isn't allowed any influence. Christianity is the Salt that keeps the world preserved. Imagine if living in America was like living on Kenya or Iran. Christianity is ridiculed and not tolerated in those areas and rampant violence is the result.

Nick, I know you know this is a true statement:

America was built on Christianity and Christian principals.

At one time the only schools of higher learning in America were Christian colleges. Many of our founding fathers studied in them. The whole system of crime and punishment was based on Judeo Christian writings. (Take a look at some of their notes or discussions while framing the constitution.)

We are just a small part of this. This is going on at a level higher than us.

That higher level is where the problem of death and suffering can be adequately discussed. I'm not anywhere near that level yet but hope to be when I die. I'd like to know the answers to all those questions.

Meanwhile God has left us a HINT of why this type of suffering happens. And that is because without the Goodness of Christ and the selfless example he set permeating the earth we will never experience the peace that God intended for us before his betrayal in the garden of eden.

That peace will come, but not on this earth while there are men and women here who choose to cheat, steal from and murder their fellow human beings. They have rejected the mayor's system of others first!:)


The Cleaner said:
...... How many of you would be willing to leave your families right now for that better place. I know that for me I want to spend as much time as humanley possible around my family.....
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Before Fayth was born Shelly and I felt we had no reason to be here anymore. Our businesses were fairly new and we were doing well, but we couldn't find any REASON to be here. Chris was living with his mom and I had little if any influence with him. Together, night after night we prayed to die soon and together so we could leave this world of heartache and toil and misery and begin the joy of eternity.

About then she got pregnant. I believe God answered our prayers by giving us a purpose. That is the reason for Fayth's name (the "y" is in honor of my aunt Faye)

Would I go right now? You bet. Shelly and Fayth would be taken care of and I have no doubt God will provide them a much better man than I am for the job. I'm damaged goods just doing the best I can and it's not nearly what Shelly and Fayth deserve.
 
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