What exactly is IKECA ?

Alexy said:
Don't be shallow to think that you have to be in a trade organization to help someone out.
http://www.propowerwash.com/board/u...-Anyone-in-Charlottesville-Va.-I-Need-A-Favor
In KEC work I have yet to see any org that even came close to the help and high standards that the grease police offered it's members. Wanted to learn how to clean hoods you went there. PERIOD. Not a forum that had one section where greasers could talk but a entire board of real people established in the industry and want to do the right thing.
GP is still there but it is a closed forum by invite only. Memebrs got tired helping people out with some cutting edge stuff only to have the person they help show up in the same zip code doing work against them.
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Yeah, real integrity there. Looks to me like some country hack soaked you guys for all the information he could (just like he did with me) then closed TGP to anyone new so they couldn't learn as much as he did.

Who admins the board?

Who do you think took all the leads?

How did such a group that was once so proud of their quality work get in bed with companies that are 90 days + late on services while still billing?

Sellouts. It starts at the top of tgp and is now working its way down.

Real integrity, give me a break.

Even the big ones who make good money lowballing all over the country spend more time suing each other than they spend servicing their customers.

Really a great bunch of leaders!

You will all sue each other out of existence sooner or later anyway.

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Interesting discussion.

The Grease Police set the bar with photo documentation, demanding high cleaning standards of it's members, etc... I'm glad to see everyone doing this stuff now. If you look at videos and hood cleaning contractors websites now, they are mimic what we taught at GP. I think it's awesome.

Ron, I didn't understand what you meant by your post about training people and then having them undercut you. Can you please explain that? I'm not sure what you were trying to say by sayin you will never understand that way of thinking...
 
HotShot_Anthony said:
Interesting discussion.

The Grease Police set the bar with photo documentation, demanding high cleaning standards of it's members, etc... I'm glad to see everyone doing this stuff now. If you look at videos and hood cleaning contractors websites now, they are mimic what we taught at GP. I think it's awesome.

Ron, I didn't understand what you meant by your post about training people and then having them undercut you. Can you please explain that? I'm not sure what you were trying to say by sayin you will never understand that way of thinking...
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Yeah Ant, my family and I are doing fine...thanks for asking.

I don't understand that way of thinking. There was one of the twelve who did. He was always looking out for himself first. He ended up hanging himself.

I chose to look up to and follow the one who gave away the most valuable information this world has ever seen.

Which one do you look up to Ant?
 
Hey Tony, glad to hear the fam is doing well.

I'm REALLY confused by your Judas analogy. I jumped in this thread midstream bro, I don't understand what you are trying to say. If you think I do, you would be wrong. I just saw Josh defending GP in this thread and threw in my 2 cents.

I didn't understand Ron's comment about training people and then having them undercut you when he was talking about Matt, or GP... I'll have to go back and re-read it now. Fill me in.
 
Alexy said:
Don't be shallow to think that you have to be in a trade organization to help someone out.
http://www.propowerwash.com/board/u...-Anyone-in-Charlottesville-Va.-I-Need-A-Favor
In KEC work I have yet to see any org that even came close to the help and high standards that the grease police offered it's members. Wanted to learn how to clean hoods you went there. PERIOD. Not a forum that had one section where greasers could talk but a entire board of real people established in the industry and want to do the right thing.
GP is still there but it is a closed forum by invite only. Memebrs got tired helping people out with some cutting edge stuff only to have the person they help show up in the same zip code doing work against them.
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I just called Ant. Haven't talked to him in a long time. After talking to him I realized I was wrong and apologized to him. He's a good guy, in a business with a few good guys and a bunch of morally deficient slimebags. I guess I need to discern a little better.

It's understandable when these guys complain about giving out information to competitors. I don't understand it though. Because the guys who would steal info from you and try to take your customers are only a firebrand. They won't stand the test of time and will eventually blaze the trail for your to command higher prices based on their substandard work. All it takes is a little faith.

If you do the best work you can you won't lose in the long run. The thieves will be sued out of business or will lose some other way that is appropriate punishment for their lack of integrity.

we don't see that much of that kind of thing out here. the one's who complain the loudest about competition in this region are recognized as the ones with the least integrity. They complain the loudest to drown out their own lack of integrity....cough, cough, cooney, cough. Excuse me.

I am glad I don't have to deal with it as much as you greasers do.
 
HotShot_Anthony said:
Hey Tony, glad to hear the fam is doing well.

I'm REALLY confused by your Judas analogy. I jumped in this thread midstream bro, I don't understand what you are trying to say. If you think I do, you would be wrong. I just saw Josh defending GP in this thread and threw in my 2 cents.

I didn't understand Ron's comment about training people and then having them undercut you when he was talking about Matt, or GP... I'll have to go back and re-read it now. Fill me in.
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Ron Musgraves said:
Those are good questions Ron. I guess we will have to see who bails in order to find out if there is any integrity.

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those are good questions Ron. I guess we should hold out an see who bails to determine who has integrity.

I'm not going to hold my breath.
 
Hahha. Well Ron, it looks like nothing has changed.

Uhm.. first and foremost because I think it is the most important: I have never EVER ever EVER ... EVER photoshopped anything with any kind of child pornography or any other kind of pornography in it. EVER! Is that clear enough for you? If you keep associating my name with child pornography, I will sue you. Stop it.

I couldn't care less about anything else you have to say, but I'm bored so I'll respond.

I have never erased any of my posts on here. I have edited a few maybe because of something I said that I didn't want said in public or something like that. But since we're talking about erasing stuff, why don't you talk about all the stuff that you erased/edited/etc... everytime someone disagreed with you? I have screen shots of the posts that I knew would be deleted so don't lie or I will call you out on it. Then again, you'll probably just delete those too.

You had NOTHING to do with starting The Grease Police. I hate to burst your bubble, but just because me and the other person who DID start the Grease Police were on your forum first doesn't mean you started the Grease Police. Other than Obama, you are the most narcissistic person I've ever seen.

Here are the facts on TGP: a guy named Jason Grogan (a friend that I trained) had a bright idea and a catchy name that he was going to try as an advertisement where he lived. He called me from Puerto Rico and we talked for about 4 hours and developed the concept for what we were going to call The Grease Police. The forum was just a little part of what we were going to do.

He called you the next morning or so and told you about it. You ran with it and started inviting everyone to the site. That was nice of you, however, I think you had an ulterior motive being the narcissist you are. Neither of us knew how to control or run an online forum at the time we recruited Matt because we knew he was good at that stuff. That is when GP blew up!!!

Hmm.. what other lies did you just spout that I can dispute?

Oh yeah, me thinking we are friends. I am 95% sure that I have NEVER called you for anything. You have called me probably 30 times, usually at around 2 am. Do I think we're friends? No. Never did. I could never trust you because of the things you would do to other people who disagreed with you. I try to be cordial with everyone so in that since I guess I was friendly. You sent a friend request to me on Facebook. I didn't send one to you.

With that said, why are you blowing up at me now after I asked a simple question that I didn't understand? I was just curious why you said that you don't understand "that way of thinking" when we don't train other people because they undercut us in the field. A lot of GPers have had this happen to them, it gets old.

Well, I guess that is all.
 
Ant, somebody posted a picture of two men having sex with rons head photoshopped on one of them fro your account. It had to be someone you know and trust. All tjis time ron thought you did it. I always thought you were betrayed by one of your "friends".

The picture and post is in the admin area. I can send you a screenshot. Maybe you can figure out from the photoshop style who tried to pawn it off on you. But Ron had thought it was you all this time.



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HotShot_Anthony said:
Hahha. Well Ron, it looks like nothing has changed.

Uhm.. first and foremost because I think it is the most important: I have never EVER ever EVER ... EVER photoshopped anything with any kind of child pornography or any other kind of pornography in it. EVER! Is that clear enough for you? If you keep associating my name with child pornography, I will sue you. Stop it.

I couldn't care less about anything else you have to say, but I'm bored so I'll respond.

I have never erased any of my posts on here. I have edited a few maybe because of something I said that I didn't want said in public or something like that. But since we're talking about erasing stuff, why don't you talk about all the stuff that you erased/edited/etc... everytime someone disagreed with you? I have screen shots of the posts that I knew would be deleted so don't lie or I will call you out on it. Then again, you'll probably just delete those too.

You had NOTHING to do with starting The Grease Police. I hate to burst your bubble, but just because me and the other person who DID start the Grease Police were on your forum first doesn't mean you started the Grease Police. Other than Obama, you are the most narcissistic person I've ever seen.

Here are the facts on TGP: a guy named Jason Grogan (a friend that I trained) had a bright idea and a catchy name that he was going to try as an advertisement where he lived. He called me from Puerto Rico and we talked for about 4 hours and developed the concept for what we were going to call The Grease Police. The forum was just a little part of what we were going to do.

He called you the next morning or so and told you about it. You ran with it and started inviting everyone to the site. That was nice of you, however, I think you had an ulterior motive being the narcissist you are. Neither of us knew how to control or run an online forum at the time we recruited Matt because we knew he was good at that stuff. That is when GP blew up!!!

Hmm.. what other lies did you just spout that I can dispute?

Oh yeah, me thinking we are friends. I am 95% sure that I have NEVER called you for anything. You have called me probably 30 times, usually at around 2 am. Do I think we're friends? No. Never did. I could never trust you because of the things you would do to other people who disagreed with you. I try to be cordial with everyone so in that since I guess I was friendly. You sent a friend request to me on Facebook. I didn't send one to you.

With that said, why are you blowing up at me now after I asked a simple question that I didn't understand? I was just curious why you said that you don't understand "that way of thinking" when we don't train other people because they undercut us in the field. A lot of GPers have had this happen to them, it gets old.

Well, I guess that is all.
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You are wrong about Ron. Please post up any posts Ron deleted. I have admin permissions and the only one I can find is the porno one.

Post them if you have them. If you don't have them just say you were bluffing. Bluffing is a strategy... (for some) but lying is a character flaw.



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Yeah, that picture was named Don Buttslave by some guys I know who thought it was really funny. That picture is pretty funny. Distasteful maybe, but funny. It had nothing to do with child pornography and actually didn't show anything that isn't shown on cable tv nowadays. Either way, I didn't photoshop it and don't know who did. I did post it but there is a story behind it that was erased by Ron or Grant that I can't get for obvious reasons. It was hashed out on PT State though if anybody wants to look for it.

Here is a picture that I photoshopped and take full responsibility for: This is my type of humor.
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I'm not going to post them because it's nobody's business what Ron has said to me or about me. This is why I stopped coming on these stupid boards. Nothing but drama.

How did I even get dragged into Ron's newest video anyway? I asked a simple question?!?! Man, it's frustrating dealing with somebody who has no problem lying.
 
I wish just one time someone would post up evidence of a lie. For over a year now I declared vehemently that Ant would have never posted that pic, now he admits to it. (not the one in the post above, but a gay one. ) Ant, whoever photoshopped the photo is the liar and the person behind all this.
 
Ron Musgraves said:
Make sense , have the guy be a hack charge less an continue to screw up your market, then you can come on here an bitch about it.

I'm wondering how you people ever stay in business?


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Nevermind all the BS -

OK, this is the post I was trying to figure out. Are you saying it's better to train them and THEN have them charge less? I don't understand, that's all I was asking.
 
Ant, i think we should do what we can to help others. If, while doing that i can secure some income for my family when I"m dead, then that is what I will try to do. But I think faith has a place in this too.

I know you've been screwed by people you've helped. Does that mean God has fogotten you and you need to take things in your own hands to make sure it doesen't happen again? Abraham didn't feel that way when he gave first choice of the land to Lot.

That is why I am here in Denver tonight. We are hoping to help Matt Norman secure more income. Hes is getting mrried to a fine woman this summer and I hope to help them support the family to come. I also hope that the work he gets will help suppport Shelly and Fayth when I'm gone.

I don't have any guarantees of that. Other than the fact that I am commanded to do unto others as I would have them do unto me. And I trust those words.

The Roger Medburys are put on this earth to test our faith. So are all the others who would use our help to steal our customers andtake food from our families. Don't fall for it. It's a trick . Just keep giving and trust the Lord Ant. Don't keep giving to the theives, but find worthy beneficiaries and give1 Trust! God is not a liar!
 
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