Look what it Took to Make E-clean today, this is my rewards after 30 years

[Allison Hester]

Thank you for doing what you thought was the right thing in trying to gain more publicity for our organization. .

I'm sorry to hear that you believe publicly lying about our agreement and publicly blaming me when the UAMCC president himself fell through on getting me a contract, ad or article was the right thing to gain more publicity. We offered free publicity. Now we're offering nothing because of these actions. So it obviously was not the right thing.

 

[michaelmole]

So when Jesus used this idiom he was lying?

In Mathew 5:13 You are the salt of the earth.

I know there is salt in my sweat. But I am not salt.

I'm confused. Where have I lied?

You are bought and paid for. Just like I said.

From where I'm sitting, the main thing you and Jesus have in common is that you both sweat.

 

[michaelmole]

As said by Allison herself in the 20 page letter that she was amazed on how many came out of the woodwork, I too can attest to that as well. I was AMAZED and proud how many came to me in private, public, emails, phone calls, and text that fully supported me. Those people have my utmost gratitude and respect. I am glad and proud that someone in our industry is taking a stand for what is right and I stand with them.

Now if I understand how the Ron-patrol works here, I'm guessing that all the people you refer to will be deemed weak, stupid, with impure motives, who are not as generous or successful as Ron is. Do I have that right?

just because a lot of people all think someone is a lying, bullying coward doesn't make it any more likely, I guess.

 

[Tony Shelton]

Me too Doug.



I take that back. Most of them don't make it, like Allison, Trey and Cooney and John T. They are employees between jobs waiting for the ones who pull the strings to give them some crumbs.

You have to be tough to make it in business. You can't take every negotiation and call it bullying when you aren't getting your way. [/QUOTE=Tony Shelton;321709]



I call publicly lying bullying.

Still waiting for where I've lied.

I've had over 9000 posts on PWI alone. And you call me a liar because I used an idiom to describe the relationship the PWNA clearly has from the tone of your magazine and your sudden outrage at Ron that conveniently allowed you to get out of an agreement you made verbally with Ron a long time ago?

Nice try Allison. Go play with others who pat you on the back for what you are trying to do to Ron.

 

[Tony Shelton]

I read what Allison wrote in the 20 page letter explaining everything that went down. I was there in those conversations. I know exactly what was going on in The private page for UAMCC members only. Which I was banned for because I asked about the Sirocco event here in San Diego CA, an hour away from me. It was disclosed ONLY to the facebook private page that UAMCC donating members would get in free the first 2 days. As a donating member of The UAMCC I wanted to know more about it since I was planning on going and this announcement was not made in The UAMCC forum for other Non-facebook users to read and take advantage of this.

Now I will admit that I was TOLD not to post because I was under suspension for allegedly doing something wrong which at this time I can't think of. Perhaps one of them can provide that here as to why I was asked to not to post. After I was told NOT to post, I ONLY posted when I needed something answered. Again this information was not given out in The UAMCC forum for others like myself to see. the UAMCC Member only page is a facebook page for donating members ONLY. I am a DONATING MEMBER so I should have access to that page. I also have the right as a donating member to question anything and everything that goes with The UAMCC.

As said by Allison herself in the 20 page letter that she was amazed on how many came out of the woodwork, I too can attest to that as well. I was AMAZED and proud how many came to me in private, public, emails, phone calls, and text that fully supported me. Those people have my utmost gratitude and respect. I am glad and proud that someone in our industry is taking a stand for what is right and I stand with them.

Enjoy their support. Welcome to the world of cowards on the phone.

They controlled this industry for years with phone lies.

They are on the way out.

Please. Join them.

Bye.

 

[Ron Musgraves]

I'm sorry to hear that you believe publicly lying about our agreement and publicly blaming me when the UAMCC president himself fell through on getting me a contract, ad or article was the right thing to gain more publicity. We offered free publicity. Now we're offering nothing because of these actions. So it obviously was not the right thing.

Allison I gave you opportunity after I completed all the things I promised was fulfilled, you just dropped the ball.

I even apologized after firing you because I thought maybe you would just understand I would have liked you to do something for us.

Instead you attacked me!!


Oct event San Diego free free text me for more details !!

 

[Allison Hester]

So when Jesus used this idiom he was lying?

In Mathew 5:13 You are the salt of the earth.

I know there is salt in my sweat. But I am not salt.

I'm confused. Where have I lied?

You are bought and paid for. Just like I said.

The lie is that we are run by the PWNA. We offered the UAMCC all sorts of coverage, free of charge, if the UAMCC followed through with the agreement, which they did not. TAnd if we received a contract, which we did not. Then we were publicly lied about regarding all of this. It's really that simple, and yet you keep insisting it's all about the PWNA. If the PWNA controlled this publication, would have offered that in the first place?

 

[Tony Shelton]

From where I'm sitting, the main thing you and Jesus have in common is that you both sweat.

Apparently we are both liars too.

 

[michaelmole]

Apparently we are both liars too.

Well one of you is a liar and an idiot to boot.

 

[michaelmole]

Allison I gave you opportunity after I completed all the things I promised was fulfilled, you just dropped the ball.

So Ron, I'm just trying to get to the bottom of this... You are saying you DID write the content and provide the contract that eClean required?

 

[michaelmole]

Now if I understand how the Ron-patrol works here, I'm guessing that all the people you refer to will be deemed weak, stupid, with impure motives, who are not as generous or successful as Ron is. Do I have that right?

Enjoy their support. Welcome to the world of cowards on the phone.

They controlled this industry for years with phone lies.

They are on the way out.

Please. Join them.

Bye.

So I wasn't too far off...

 

[Kristopher Pettitt]

Tony, perhaps none of this would have gone down the way it did if Ron had done what he agreed to. Sorry, but it wasn't Allison's job to write the article for The UAMCC or interview. It was up to The UAMCC and BOD, especially Ron to see this through. I don't see after 6 months why this was so hard to accomplish. The Eclean ad was up for 6 months as stated by Ron, so why was not at least one article submitted to Allison? You talk about misdirecting and misleading, yet here you are doing it yourself. This was an easy fix and instead of working with Allison to get this resolved you felt it necessary to air it out in public hoping that it would favor you and your cause. I can tell you that it won't favor your cause. You've made your bed now you have to lie in it. As you stated before everyone needs to choose their side and even as a donating member of The UAMCC I am NOT on your side regarding this issue in any way, shape, or form.

 

[Ron Musgraves]

Later today I will be posting a reward for any info leading to the gay pornography of the individuals who hurt my child.

People seen remarks on Pwra today of them knowing about it , I'm asking them to step forward so I can put this nightmare that haunts my soul behind me. It was erased by admins there, I would like the admins names of Pwra because they know they erased it.

If you saw the post I'm talking about at Pwra of someone admitting they knew about it please I beg you to call me!! 4805225227




Oct event San Diego free free text me for more details !!

 

[Tony Shelton]

Tony, you sicken me with your arrogant flaunting of scripture, followed by your blatant disrespect for people, who are ALL created in God's image. You talk down to them, lie about them, post demeaning pictures of "the short bus" with names on them (which, as the mother of a special needs child, was beyond offensive). The lie is that we are run by the PWNA. We offered the UAMCC all sorts of coverage, free of charge, if the UAMCC followed through with the agreement, which they did not. TAnd if we received a contract, which we did not. Then we were publicly lied about regarding all of this. It's really that simple, and yet you keep insisting it's all about the PWNA. If the PWNA controlled this publication, would have offered that in the first place?

Does this guy sicken you too? Here is another guy who "flaunted scriptures, followed by a blatant disrespect" for certain people.

Matt: 23:25 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26 Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.......33 “You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? - Jesus


Sometimes people deserve it.

Perhaps you would rather switch and follow Ghandi. I hear he is nice all the time.



Here is a simple question for you.


Did your article about the Garage Event slant coverage to make it look better than it was?

 

[Tony Shelton]

Well one of you is a liar and an idiot to boot.

Who are you again?

 

[michaelmole]

Who are you again?

Ask Tony Evans, I believe he is the self-proclaimed expert.

 

[Allison Hester]

Perhaps you would rather switch and follow Ghandi. I hear he is nice all the time.

Bump...

 

[Tony Shelton]

Tony, perhaps none of this would have gone down the way it did if Ron had done what he agreed to. Sorry, but it wasn't Allison's job to write the article for The UAMCC or interview. It was up to The UAMCC and BOD, especially Ron to see this through. I don't see after 6 months why this was so hard to accomplish. The Eclean ad was up for 6 months as stated by Ron, so why was not at least one article submitted to Allison? You talk about misdirecting and misleading, yet here you are doing it yourself. This was an easy fix and instead of working with Allison to get this resolved you felt it necessary to air it out in public hoping that it would favor you and your cause. I can tell you that it won't favor your cause. You've made your bed now you have to lie in it. As you stated before everyone needs to choose their side and even as a donating member of The UAMCC I am NOT on your side regarding this issue in any way, shape, or form.

I will sure be glad when you learn to read.

Didn't you see where Ron apologized and Allison told him she accepted his apology?

He even publicly offered to step aside and asked for volunteers to work with Allison to get the info out for the UAMCC for the benefit of the members.

Then Allison posts that she has no intention of working with the UAMCC.

Please, start reading. Educate yourself.

 

[michaelmole]

Here is a simple question for you.

Simple question for you... Did the UAMCC provide the contract or the articles it had agreed to provide to eClean magazine?

 

[Tony Shelton]

I don't know how you live with yourself.

I would say the same to you Allison.

Again, same question:


Did your article about the Garage Event slant coverage to make it look better than it was?