EPA Enforcement in 2012 Protects Communities From Harmful Pollution

Tony:

It says to discharge your waste water to a sand trap, grit trap, and grease trap if available. It does not say anything about how you are to accomplish it. That is left up to the contractor.

Obviously if you are washing over one of these you do not need to pick up the waste water in order to accomplish the discharge.

To be honest Tony, you do not comprehend very well the written word.

What level is you academic training?

I don't know what you are trying to pull here.

My comprehension of the written word is sufficient enough to know that your BMP's call for using the "sand trap, grit trap, and grease trap if available" PRIOR to discharging it into the SANITARY SEWER, NOT as a proper way to dispose of runoff when the circumstances warrant.

From your writings any reasonable person would draw the conclusion that this water would have to be picked up and put in the sanitary sewer just like Jim claims all parking garage runoff must.

Maybe you meant something else. Possibly it is your writing skills that are lacking.

Here, I'll show it to you from your own BMP from the PWNA's website:

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And my academic level is adequate to spar with you and prevail Mr. Hinderliter. Anything I mention above that would be just bragging.
 
I don't know what you are trying to pull here.

My comprehension of the written word is sufficient enough to know that your BMP's call for using the "sand trap, grit trap, and grease trap if available" PRIOR to discharging it into the SANITARY SEWER, NOT as a proper way to dispose of runoff when the circumstances warrant.

From your writings any reasonable person would draw the conclusion that this water would have to be picked up and put in the sanitary sewer just like Jim claims all parking garage runoff must.

Maybe you meant something else. Possibly it is your writing skills that are lacking.

Here, I'll show it to you from your own BMP from the PWNA's website:

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And my academic level is adequate to spar with you and prevail Mr. Hinderliter. Anything I mention above that would be just bragging.

Tony:

That is part of the rewriting, the technical version is:

Method of conveyance to the sanitary sewer (that is direct you waste water to the sanitary sewer by way of Sand Trap, Grit Trap, Grease Trap, or Clarifier if available).

In other words you should direct your discharge to the sanitary sewer through whichever way provides the most filtration. Nothing is said about how you get it there.

I have seen contracts change hands because one contract cleaner figured out a better less expensive method for handling the waste water.

I am waiting for your next trick question.
 
We gave you an opportunity over a year and a half ago to write one to all our "liking". Why didn't you do it then?


Tony:

When you do that type of thing there is a formal procedure to follow, it was published. If I remember right we only received one suggestion, which was not from you.

Posting attacks on PWI did not count.
 
Tony I believe you fit this definition:

Legal definition http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberbullying

Cyberbullying is defined in legal glossaries as

  • actions that use information and communication technologies to support deliberate, repeated, and hostile behavior by an individual or group, that is intended to harm another or others.
  • use of communication technologies for the intention of harming another person
  • use of internet service and mobile technologies such as web pages and discussion groups as well as instant messaging or SMS text messaging with the intention of harming another person.
  • .
Examples of what constitutes cyberbullying include communications that seek to intimidate, control, manipulate, put down, falsely discredit, or humiliate the recipient. The actions are deliberate, repeated, and hostile behavior intended to harm another. Cyberbullying has been defined by The National Crime Prevention Council: “When the Internet, cell phones or other devices are used to send or post text or images intended to hurt or embarrass another person."[SUP][1][2]
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A cyberbully may be a person whom the target knows or an online stranger. A cyberbully may be anonymous and may solicit involvement of other people online who do not even know the target. This is known as a 'digital pile-on.'[SUP][3][/SUP]
 
Tony:

When you do that type of thing there is a formal procedure to follow, it was published. If I remember right we only received one suggestion, which was not from you.

Posting attacks on PWI did not count.

You remember wrong. The PWNA sent out a comment sheet around the end of March asking for comments. I filled it out by hand, then called and spoke to Mike Hilborn personally about it. There was one change that you made if I remember correctly. Originally you had NO storm drain runoff AT ALL for plaza cleaning. After I pressed you with the BASMAA bmp's and the Vegas BMP's allowing mesh filtered runoff, you changed it to allow storm drain runoff, but left the part in there about hot water which made the change useless.

The Comment sheet said we were either to email it or CALL which is exactly what I did. I also spoke extensively about this to Mike Hilborne. If you would like I can pull up my phone records and find out exactly how long we talked about it.

And further I was on PWI AND the UAMCC, posting about this, which, at that time was where you were looking for responses!

Why are you trying to duck your responsibility here.

And further, what part of "We will not shop these BMP's" are you not clear on?


And regarding the cyber bullying.....sue me, please do your business or get off the pot and quit threatening it like a threat has some kind of teeth.

No one is bullying you, you are caught up in your deception and have no where to go.

"WE WILL NOT SHOP THESE BMP'S."
 
You remember wrong. The PWNA sent out a comment sheet around the end of March asking for comments. I filled it out by hand, then called and spoke to Mike Hilborn personally about it. There was one change that you made if I remember correctly. Originally you had NO storm drain runoff AT ALL for plaza cleaning. After I pressed you with the BASMAA bmp's and the Vegas BMP's allowing mesh filtered runoff, you changed it to allow storm drain runoff, but left the part in there about hot water which made the change useless.

The Comment sheet said we were either to email it or CALL which is exactly what I did. I also spoke extensively about this to Mike Hilborne. If you would like I can pull up my phone records and find out exactly how long we talked about it.

And further I was on PWI AND the UAMCC, posting about this, which, at that time was where you were looking for responses!

Why are you trying to duck your responsibility here.

And further, what part of "We will not shop these BMP's" are you not clear on?


And regarding the cyber bullying.....sue me, please do your business or get off the pot and quit threatening it like a threat has some kind of teeth.

No one is bullying you, you are caught up in your deception and have no where to go.

"WE WILL NOT SHOP THESE BMP'S."
Tony u remind me of a kid I use to run with when I was a yooth :)
 
Are you threatening to sue me again for something on this BBS?

Robert if your going to suggest that people here do not agree with you are bully
s I'm sorry you do not have a chance in hell.

First things first is that you can tune out here anytime you want. Second I nor does anyone here control members thoughts of you.

Third your the only person here that has labeled and identified individuals as the dirty dozen. Robert over the years I would say the definition of cyber bully mostly fits you.

Someone who has others do his dirty work, I can count numerous times you have asked others to post things for you. it can be said the same your discrediting our methods here of washing. Further more the miss-leading info is mixed with fleet info and knowledge of other technologies making statements you know nothing about.

Your the only one who keeps talking about suing anyone, you have threatened your son has powerful attorneys.


Robert lets stop wasting each others time. Do you think you can stop with the roderick, how can we benefit the industry together?

Robert I Checked out of thread long ago with you Robert, here's your last opportunity to show the industry you want to work together or you do not.

Understand the plan will not be working on your methods solely. Second a group of contractors, educators and other associates like your self will be involved in this program.

I suspect you will not because you have a private show with the PWNA do do as you wish.

Tony I believe you fit this definition:

Legal definition http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberbullying

Cyberbullying is defined in legal glossaries as

  • actions that use information and communication technologies to support deliberate, repeated, and hostile behavior by an individual or group, that is intended to harm another or others.
  • use of communication technologies for the intention of harming another person
  • use of internet service and mobile technologies such as web pages and discussion groups as well as instant messaging or SMS text messaging with the intention of harming another person.
  • .
Examples of what constitutes cyberbullying include communications that seek to intimidate, control, manipulate, put down, falsely discredit, or humiliate the recipient. The actions are deliberate, repeated, and hostile behavior intended to harm another. Cyberbullying has been defined by The National Crime Prevention Council: “When the Internet, cell phones or other devices are used to send or post text or images intended to hurt or embarrass another person."[SUP][1][2]
[/SUP]
A cyberbully may be a person whom the target knows or an online stranger. A cyberbully may be anonymous and may solicit involvement of other people online who do not even know the target. This is known as a 'digital pile-on.'[SUP][3][/SUP]
 
at 1pm Phx time Barbara from GA called from Gwineete County, it was interesting that she understood about compliant propertys with retention systems.

Compliant propertys that you Robert make Claims in about power points cannot legally handle maint cleaning water.

Your also reference a companies with those claims, I guess if thats true then we should forward your findings to there competitors. Maybe they could loose someone multi million dollars jobs on your findings?
 
Who generated that pollution?


Dear Lord...why would anyone even remotely associated with our industry create a slide like that and present it & pass it out to regulators?


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I'm glad Robert isn't the Chair of the Animal Lovers Society.

This might be one of the slides:

Every animal owner is an "animal lover" as long as it is convenient for them and doesn't affect their "economic revenue stream" or as long as dog food is cheap.

Left to their own devices without strict rules most animals will look like this:

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What is being forgotten here is we are all business owners, most of which have children that we, too, are concerned about. Left to our own devices most of us will do the right thing. The biggest exception is those who come from other countries that are used to throwing trash wherever they please.
 

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I'm glad Robert isn't the Chair of the Animal Lovers Society.

This might be one of the slides:

Every animal owner is an "animal lover" as long as it is convenient for them and doesn't affect their "economic revenue stream" or as long as dog food is cheap.

Left to their own devices without strict rules most animals will look like this:

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What is being forgotten here is we are all business owners, most of which have children that we, too, are concerned about. Left to our own devices most of us will do the right thing. The biggest exception is those who come from other countries that are used to throwing trash wherever they please.





If animal abuse regulations are not reasonable, rational, and logical then people will go underground and abuse their pets on nights and weekends when enforcement is at its lowest.
 
If animal abuse regulations are not reasonable, rational, and logical then people will go underground and abuse their pets on nights and weekends when enforcement is at its lowest.

Exactly.
 
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Who generated that pollution?


Dear Lord...why would anyone even remotely associated with our industry create a slide like that and present it & pass it out to regulators?


<img src="http://www.propowerwash.com/board/upload/attachment.php?attachmentid=23270&d=1358898250" height="400" width="400">


It's pretty clear that the concrete in this image has yet to be cleaned. It's also clear that the oil is heading downhill (storm drain?) before it was ever touched by a PW'er.

Conclusion...pollution is generated before someone is tasked to clean it. Even minimal measures such as properly placed sediment filters and oil socks would result in LESS pollution reaching the drains.

The Pressure Washer would not be generating pollution, he'd be reducing it!

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