EPA Enforcement in 2012 Protects Communities From Harmful Pollution

What you are saying is you want us to come to our own conclusions as long as the conclusions match yours.

We have a great relationship with our AHJ here. They are smart, thoughtful and more than willing to help.

We don't need any additional BMP's here and the last thing we need is for one of them to see your BMP's, which are much stricter than ours, and then draw the conclusion that you know what you are talking about just because you've plastered your name all over the internet as if you are some kind of authority on it.

IF you were an authority on it and if you gave a damn about the contractors you would never in a million years go around presenting a BMP that is more strict than even the Bay Area Storm Management Agencies Association.

But I know you are going to do what you are going to do and we're wasting our breath.

Carry on trying to brainwash contractors into believing what you are saying.

I and others will be following close behind with facts so that we can work WITH the authorities instead of being worked BY them.
 
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Tony Shelton said:
What you are saying is you want us to come to our own conclusions as long as the conclusions match yours.

We have a great relationship with our AHJ here. They are smart, thoughtful and more than willing to help.

We don't need any additional BMP's here and the last thing we need is for one of them to see your BMP's, which are much stricter than ours, and then draw the conclusion that you know what you are talking about just because you've plastered your name all over the internet as if you are some kind of authority on it.

IF you were an authority on it and if you gave a damn about the contractors you would never in a million years go around presenting a BMP that is more strict than even the Bay Area Storm Management Agencies Association.

But I know you are going to do what you are going to do and we're wasting our breath.

Carry on trying to brainwash contractors into believing what you are saying.

I and others will be following close behind with facts so that we can work WITH the authorities instead of being worked BY them.
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Not True.
 
Robert Hinderliter said:
Not True.
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What is not true?

About the conclusions?

That we have great relationship with our AHJ?

That our AHJ's are smart?

That we don't need additional BMPs?

That your BMP's are stricter than ours and BASMAA?

That you are not an authority?

That you don't give a damn about contractors?


Maybe you could explain it with power point slides if you can find one that already addresses all the points above.
 
offdutyfireman said:
Mod's. You are enabling him by allowing him to post here. The damage he is doing here makes this board complicit by alowing him the venue. Please make this thread not viewable by search engines and ban him from spewing here.
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Why so no one can learn the truth, PWI is going to override anything he has. This way multiple sources can find the right info.

Its pretty clear he is not the industry advocate, he says it. The real truth is he is using a national association for profiteering. Its highly illegal to use a non-profit for this. His case would be pretty tough to dispute, my answer to all is to write the BOD who are ultimately responsible for his actions.

Plus he is funded privately by his son, stop supporting the son if you feel he is not representing how you want him to. The wallet is the fastest method of fixing and issue. Tell his Son how you feel, maybe if 1000 people wrote him then he would be forced to listen.
 
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Robert Hinderliter said:
CONTACT:
Stacy Kika
kika.stacy@epa.gov
202-564-0906
202-564-4355

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
December 17, 2012


EPA Enforcement in 2012 Protects Communities From Harmful Pollution

WASHINGTON - The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) today released its annual enforcement results, showing significant environmental and public health protections achieved – a reduction of 2.2 billion pounds of air, water and land pollution, as well as 4.4 billion pounds of hazardous waste, and $252 million in civil and criminal penalties levied – while also focusing on enforcement efforts that reduce smaller amounts of pollution but have substantial health impacts in communities.

“Enforcement plays a vital role in protecting communities from harmful pollution,” said Cynthia Giles, assistant administrator for EPA’s Office of Enforcement and Compliance Assurance. “We are using vigorous enforcement, as well as innovations in monitoring and transparency, to reduce pollution violations, protect and empower communities and focus on the environmental problems that matter most.”

FY 2012 results include:

- Sustained and focused enforcement attention on serious violators of clean drinking water standards has resulted in improvements in compliance. The number of systems with serious violations has declined by more than 60 percent in the past three years as a result of combined federal and state enforcement work, protecting people’s health through safer drinking water.

- More than 67 percent of large combined sewer systems serving people across the country are implementing clean water solutions to reduce raw sewage and contaminated stormwater and more are underway. EPA is working with communities to design integrated solutions to these water quality problems, and incorporating innovative and cost effective green infrastructure to save money and achieve multiple community benefits.

- EPA is bringing criminal prosecutions where criminal activity threatens public health, like failing to use required pollution control equipment or knowingly violating pollution rules resulting in death or serious harm or falsifying pollution information. See a case example in Louisiana.

- EPA is advancing environmental justice by incorporating fenceline monitoring, which requires companies to monitor their air emissions and make that data available public, into settlements, ensuring that local residents have access to critical information about pollution that may be affecting their community. EPA also secured $44 million in additional investments through settlements for supplemental environmental projects that benefit impacted communities. See an oil refinery case example.

- EPA is increasing transparency to use the power of public accountability to help improve environmental compliance. EPA’s 2012 enforcement actions map provides information about violators in communities. EPA’s state dashboards and Clean Water Act pollutant loading tool provides the public with information about local pollution that may affect them and allows the public to take a closer look at how government is responding to pollution problems.

More information about EPA’s FY 2012 enforcement results:
http://www.epa.gov/enforcement/data/eoy2012/index.html
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Ron Musgraves said:
This content william Has nothing to do with Mobile wash or cometic cleaning industry.
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And was everything to do with linking (Falsely) hard working Small Business owners (The Heart Of American Employment) to pollution or the cause of pollution. Just like the rest of the links Robert is posting.

No William I want Regulators to come to this thread and see the truth, and I'm sure some have already.

I want them to ask themselves why a person that (by all intents and proposes) "Represents" our Industry is working solely with (or for them) and not the Industry he "Claims" to represent.

This is like someone that would "Claim" to represent the "Big Oil Companies" yet work with the Government to stop or over regulate the Oil Industry.

There's only one word for it.
 
Guy Blackmon said:
Sabotage

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And here's the word.
 
Robert Hinderliter said:
Not True.
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So let's clear the air right here and now Robert, explain to all that will come across this thread exactly how you and the PWNA are representing and helping our Industry by promoting our Industry as a major sources of pollution, and criminals. Tell us where you have helped an Industry that has put clothes on your back & Food in your mouth and a nice house to live in.......Tell us Robert.....I guarantee we're all ears.

Please Explain Your Position To The Industry That Has Done So Much For You & Your Family.
 
Ron Musgraves said:
This content william Has nothing to do with Mobile wash or cometic cleaning industry.
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Thanks for quoting the original post Ron....after over 2 dozen pages, I had overlooked this bit of irony.

And IMHO....its a rather damning indictment on motives. I'll get to this at the end but first...

Who does Robert represent?

On paper I suppose he represents Pressure washers. There's the BMP's, Chairman of two Orgs Enviro committees, two plus decades of introducing himself as the authority and then shopping himself all over the country.

However...

The deeds and the words tell a different story. For the John T's of the world, demanding absolute proof of selfish intent, you probably aren't going to find anything. In the world of conspiracies, this one wouldn't be difficult to hide. There isn't going to be one single smoking gun. However, if you are capable of critical thinking and analyzing cause and effect....the breadcrumbs are there. Lots of them.

Back to the OP...

"EPA Enforcement in 2012 Protects Communities From Harmful Pollution"
What does the first post have to do with anything about this site or the people here? It might fit perfectly in the "Environmental Protection Institute" but here it's a bit out of place. In fact, when I looked at it again after Ron's post, it reminded me of the posts we see all over the various pressure washing sites. How many times have we all made or see threads like "Pressure Washing Anytown Usa" and filled with info about services, links and contact info? It's about marketing....They want people (and google) to see their title, contact details and link.

So...what was Robert marketing? Who was he promoting? Who (besides google) was his audience?

This is just another breadcrumb in a line of many. I've pasted several as have others in the 28 pages of this thread. You can look at them individually and try to rationalize them as misunderstandings or accidents. When you look at them as a whole body of work I feel it leads to only one conclusion....

Maybe the plan was set from the start...maybe it morphed into it along the way. Either way, Robert has more in common with or more to gain aligning with the EPA. Like the pressure washer that uses forums to market, Robert is marketing his product....EPA and Regulations.


I think we as a group, regardless of whether you are a Org member or not, need to do more than just rewrite BMP's, I think we need to work collectively and publicly disavow the past agenda and push a new message.
 
Tony Shelton said:
We've already started at the UAMCC.

Please join with us to help.

Right Now.
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It sounds like you are saying that we should join the UAMCC to help change this. This is the post I was thinking of when I replied to John T. I don't want to turn this into a debate about joining the UAMCC but I do want to address this.

The historical common denominators in the mess are Robert, PWNA and the UAMCC. I realize things have changed at the UAMCC but it is recent in the overall scheme of things. It's the Org's that empowered Robert to push his agenda and rubber stamped them on their sites and by giving him title.

You yourself pointed out the results of an attempt to "get involved" (here). You filled out a form, called and posted in a forum thread for ideas. What were the results?

In my opinion...both Orgs have used issues like this for their own self promotion. Whenever any industry issue comes up, watching the Org bickering reminds me of the scene in Bravehart where the nobles were slap fighting about who should be the King of Scotland.

When I see this going from an open discussion in a forum to back behind the scenes (new UAMCC Eviro Chair) and your post to "join us".....it makes me think.....here we go again.

Why does it have to be a "UAMCC BMP" or "PWNA BMP"? Why cant we as an industry organize a project or initiative in an "open source" environment? Open to all. Would it really be any different than rubber stamping or adopting Roberts BMP's? Perhaps there are people in PWNA that don't like the BMP's they promote. Why should dues and a logo preclude him from sharing? Why make BMP's a wedge issue at all? Let the Org's adopt the collaborated work/BMP's and then attach their name to them. If We do this and PWNA chooses to back the BMP's of a vendor over that of a contractor collaborative....let them do so at their own peril.

I expect to catch some grief over this post but everything I've said is true. Before people get defensive and try and shoot the messenger, can we at least agree that this issue affects all of us and crosses the divisions of associations and Org's and would best serve us all if there was a way everyone could participate.
 
Doug Rucker said:
Not crazy at all.... Pure genius. Till now hopefully


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I'm sure there was an expectation of some sales to contractors......but, I'll wager that "we" were never really the target of the ad stuffed presentations, PDF's, power point slides and videos.

Isn't "AHJ" just a fancy way of saying local government? You don't think local governments buy pressure washing equipment? For a group that blows other peoples money like it grows on trees, Robert probably looks like candy. They get a consultant, vendor and BMP assistance all rolled into one package. Why do your job when you have this guy to do it for you (and you still get the credit).
 
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