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Can fat people go skinny-dipping?
William, I believe this is referred to as a "chunky dunk".
Hey Russ. Missed you in TN this year.
Can fat people go skinny-dipping?
William, I believe this is referred to as a "chunky dunk".
In The News |
Tuesday, 18 October 2011 15:54 |
Jason Plautz, E&E reporter, Published: Friday, October 14, 2011 Independent truckers are accusing EPA Assistant Administrator Gina McCarthy of misrepresenting the group's involvement in the rulemaking process on fuel economy standards for heavy trucks. In a letter to McCarthy, the Owner-Operator Independent Drivers Association (OOIDA) says she misled legislators when she testified during a House hearing last Wednesday that the group had met with EPA "extensively" throughout the rulemaking process. In fact, OOIDA continues, representatives only met once for an introductory meeting and any further attempts to offer input to the rulemaking process were unsuccessful. "During the hearing, you stated that OOIDA met with your representatives 'extensively' and that our comments 'led to significant changes in the final' rule. Needless to say, we here at OOIDA were surprised to hear this characterization of events, especially from a witness testifying under oath before Congress," states the letter, signed by OOIDA Executive Vice President Todd Spencer. "It is hard to understand why EPA and [the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration] chose not to tap into the collective knowledge of truckers on how to improve fuel efficiency," the letter continues. The issue arose during a Wednesday House Oversight Committee hearing on the administration's fuel economy standards rulemaking process, during which Republicans charged that EPA and NHTSA had not listened to all stakeholders when setting standards for heavy trucks and light duty vehicles. During the hearing, OOIDA member Scott Grenerth (Green-earth), an independent Midwest truck driver, said he was opposed to the "one-size-fits-all regulation" for heavy trucks and that the opinions of small independent truckers were ignored. McCarthy objected to the complaint, offering up an email from OOIDA praising EPA for considering small businesses. "I don't know who this representative was or how extensive they were involved in the process but clearly they aren't working for OOIDA," she said, "because the staff of OOIDA met with us, appreciated it and had an influence in the decision" (E&E Daily, Oct. 13). "Ms. McCarthy, it is one thing for you to misrepresent the role of OOIDA as an organization in your testimony, but it is quite another for you to call into question the sincerity and truthfulness of one of our members, particularly one who has devoted his life to protecting the planet," the letter states. "The handful of e-mails, one meeting and two phone calls does not constitute 'extensive' engagement." Spencer added that the email in question only refers to a November 2010 meeting that served as a meet and greet. Spencer told E&E Daily that both sides had "mentioned some cursory things and got cursory feedback" during the meeting but that the group had not shared specifics about their desires for the standards. EPA declined to comment on the letter before publication time. OOIDA said that the standards -- which will require a 20% emissions cut from the industry by 2020 -- will hurt the ability of small truckers to buy the vehicles they need. Spencer took issue with the "focused" rulemaking that he said only considered a small share “long haul freight) of the "diverse" transportation industry. The group also charges that larger trucking firms, and especially the American Trucking Associations (ATA), were actively involved in the process and that OOIDA only gets one mention in the final rule issued by the administration. Click here to read the OOIDA letter. |
It sounds like you are saying that we should join the UAMCC to help change this. This is the post I was thinking of when I replied to John T. I don't want to turn this into a debate about joining the UAMCC but I do want to address this.
The historical common denominators in the mess are Robert, PWNA and the UAMCC. I realize things have changed at the UAMCC but it is recent in the overall scheme of things. It's the Org's that empowered Robert to push his agenda and rubber stamped them on their sites and by giving him title.
You yourself pointed out the results of an attempt to "get involved" (here). You filled out a form, called and posted in a forum thread for ideas. What were the results?
In my opinion...both Orgs have used issues like this for their own self promotion. Whenever any industry issue comes up, watching the Org bickering reminds me of the scene in Bravehart where the nobles were slap fighting about who should be the King of Scotland.
When I see this going from an open discussion in a forum to back behind the scenes (new UAMCC Eviro Chair) and your post to "join us".....it makes me think.....here we go again.
Why does it have to be a "UAMCC BMP" or "PWNA BMP"? Why cant we as an industry organize a project or initiative in an "open source" environment? Open to all. Would it really be any different than rubber stamping or adopting Roberts BMP's? Perhaps there are people in PWNA that don't like the BMP's they promote. Why should dues and a logo preclude him from sharing? Why make BMP's a wedge issue at all? Let the Org's adopt the collaborated work/BMP's and then attach their name to them. If We do this and PWNA chooses to back the BMP's of a vendor over that of a contractor collaborative....let them do so at their own peril.
I expect to catch some grief over this post but everything I've said is true. Before people get defensive and try and shoot the messenger, can we at least agree that this issue affects all of us and crosses the divisions of associations and Org's and would best serve us all if there was a way everyone could participate.
William can you make that information into PowerPoint slides for us?
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Charlie, most of my posts are to technical for the people here to understand. I dare say that only about 25% of those that read this are capable of understanding it.
Charlie, most of my posts are to technical for the people here to understand. I dare say that only about 25% of those that read this are capable of understanding it.
The UAMCC could turn with the wrong BOD.
Not only that, but they can pivot on an issue in short order. It hasn't been that long ago that I was considered persona non grata by UAMCC members for negative posts about Robert.
I haven't changed....the popularity of my opinions and feelings ebb and flow with the changes to the Orgs.
How about You Guy answer this one question which should make some of your above questions easier to figure out yourself.So Robert you have read this request and chosen not to answer the question. So I can only surmise that you don't feel you have to answer a legitimate question from a member of the Industry you "Claim" to represent.
So then let me ask this.....Who do you answer to then?....If you represent the PWNA, do you inform the membership of your actions or interactions with Federal, State, & Local EPA Officials? If so how? email? Meetings? Phone Call? Are you informing them on a weekly, monthly, yearly basis?
Are you keeping the BOD of the PWNA informed with your interactions with the EPA? If so, why are the results not posted in the board minutes at the PWNA website?
How many Members of the PWNA are there? 75, 100, 150, 200, 250, 300 ? I talked to an informed person about the PWNA and was told that there are around 300 "Paying Members" If this is true how do you feel this enables you to say that you represent an Industry that embody 10's of thousands of Business Owners? How do you feel this gives you the right to speak for an Industry as a "Whole"?
How many of the 10's of thousands of Pressure Washing Contractors out there even know "Who" you are?
Do you think they know you're working with the EPA (State, Local, Federal) to portray them as polluters, and as a major source of pollution to the MS4, when this is completely false?
Have your Lawyers informed you that because you "Are" a Distributor (Active or Retired) of Pressure Washing Equipment and Water Reclaim Equipment that this is/can be viewed as a direct violation of the Fair Trade Act and investigated by the Federal Trade Commission? Have they made you aware of the penalties?
Can you answer these questions?
How about You Guy answer this one question which should make some of your above questions easier to figure out yourself.
You belong to the UAMCC which is a National org. You tell anyone that's listens that your org represents the contractors.
So how does that make sense then when you only have 11 paid members??
How about You Guy answer this one question which should make some of your above questions easier to figure out yourself.
You belong to the UAMCC which is a National org. You tell anyone that's listens that your org represents the contractors.
So how does that make sense then when you only have 11 paid members??