The gOV Shut down, Can they Stay Closed?

Ron. what is Obama care going to make your company do? what changes will you have to make to the existing health insurance program you have for your employees?
 
junker1 said:
Ron. what is Obama care going to make your company do? what changes will you have to make to the existing health insurance program you have for your employees?
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Have health care, looks like employees will loose what I provide do to this. I'm under 50 so they will be able to get policy's independent that will at first seem cheaper. Wait they will rise up

Just let's turn the phones off NOW!


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Ron Musgraves said:
Have health care, looks like employees will loose what I provide do to this. I'm under 50 so they will be able to get policy's independent that will at first seem cheaper. Wait they will rise up

Just let's turn the phones off NOW!


Oct event San Diego free free text me for more details !!
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they are going to make you have insurance for your employees?
 
Sounds like all the senators and congressmen need to be voted out of office since they cannot work together and work for the people, about time to get people in there that can work together and work for the people.

How hard would it be to do that?

Nationwide protest?

Collect a million signatures?

After all of this, I think people are ready for some real change in the houses.
 
We provide healthcAre to our employees as well. It costs them about $100 a month and us about $300 per month per employee. The way it looks now, we might have to discontinue coverage.
 
Scott Stone said:
We provide healthcAre to our employees as well. It costs them about $100 a month and us about $300 per month per employee. The way it looks now, we might have to discontinue coverage.
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why? not trying to bust chops. Its just that you are the only one that I know that can really answer it.
 
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junker1 said:
why? not trying to bust chops. Its just that you are the only one that I know that can really answer it.
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It is going to become cost prohibitive. At under 50 employees, (we are at 45) we are not required by law to offer health care coverage. The way it looks now, if we do continue to offer health care, our employee portion is going to go up by about $400 a month per person, if we do not take on some of the cost. Although many of our people choose to not take health care coverage, it will still be a significant monthly expense to either us, or them, to cover the raised rates.
 
Scott Stone said:
It is going to become cost prohibitive. At under 50 employees, (we are at 45) we are not required by law to offer health care coverage. The way it looks now, if we do continue to offer health care, our employee portion is going to go up by about $400 a month per person, if we do not take on some of the cost. Although many of our people choose to not take health care coverage, it will still be a significant monthly expense to either us, or them, to cover the raised rates.
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I understand. I did read that the rate will go up. lets hope that there will be some ways to recoup the extra cost through SHOP or tax breaks.
one of Their reasoning for the rate going up are " hey they have been going up every year anyway " ya whatever!
 
doubling the cost would definitely put a damper on most. Now you can offer it at that doubled cost but does the employee have a choice to get it somewhere else like the exchange ?
 
Of course they do. The exchange is just a scam. If you look at some of the pricing for "affordable healthcare" it is really a scam to make health care so expensive that people will have to pay the fines and let the government take care of them. Of course, this is just my personal opinion.
 
An important note that must be addressed.

"We the People" (us) HIRED the government to take care of the day-to-day operations of running the country. While we were busy making a living, they decided to start scamming us because they knew we were too busy taking care of our own business' to notice what they were up to. These "employees" made up their own rules, regulations, statutes, "laws" and so on and started using them against us ("We the People"). WE ARE THEIR EMPLOYERS!!!

How many of you (that have employees) allow those employees to dictate how you run your business? I would venture a guess of ZERO. Since when did those employees start giving benefits to you in the way of health care and tax breaks to the point that they could manipulate you and your business at will? Do you accept benefits from your employees, or are you providing them?

YOU are the employer, the government is the EMPLOYEE, plain and simple. If you don't like what the employee is doing for you, then FIRE their ass.

Anyone that accepts any sort of "benefit" from the government (i.e. employee) is a slave to them. Your employees own your ass.

Wake up America.
 
"Red" said:
An important note that must be addressed.

"We the People" (us) HIRED the government to take care of the day-to-day operations of running the country. While we were busy making a living, they decided to start scamming us because they knew we were too busy taking care of our own business' to notice what they were up to. These "employees" made up their own rules, regulations, statutes, "laws" and so on and started using them against us ("We the People"). WE ARE THEIR EMPLOYERS!!!

How many of you (that have employees) allow those employees to dictate how you run your business? I would venture a guess of ZERO. Since when did those employees start giving benefits to you in the way of health care and tax breaks to the point that they could manipulate you and your business at will? Do you accept benefits from your employees, or are you providing them?

YOU are the employer, the government is the EMPLOYEE, plain and simple. If you don't like what the employee is doing for you, then FIRE their ass.

Anyone that accepts any sort of "benefit" from the government (i.e. employee) is a slave to them. Your employees own your ass.

Wake up America.
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Derrel we are their subjects. From the President to the guy who cleans the bathroom at Mt. Rushmore.

While we spent the last few years tightening our belts, letting employees go, losing our homes and our retirement plans they keep sucking the life out of our country. They complain and sue for not getting a raise while we all suffer, then have the audacity to complain about furloughs even when they are getting paid for them.

They send in hyped up thugs to gather their pay by pulling us over with guns in our faces and levying fines for not wearing our seatbelts, talking on our phones or failing to pay extortion fees for tags on our cars we used to use to get to work, when there was work.

They drain our bank accounts if they think we didn't pay quite enough on tax day. They fine us for "polluting" while their own crews dump raw sewage into the lakes.

Yes, we are their subjects.

We chose to be their subjects by sending our kids to 12-16 years of their indoctrination camps, just like our parents did. This ensures that no one has the education to vote their way out of servitude.

We are done for Red. Some other country needs to come in and take over. We don't have the guts or the sense to clean up our own mess.

Sound like traitor? No I am a patriot. The traitors are the ones who allowed this to happen, and continue to allow it without resistance.

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