The gOV Shut down, Can they Stay Closed?

I would worry about this ten years ago, I'm not even sure how effective this all is any longer.

A shut down, really you mean like last time another paid vacation for federal workers for taking off.

I say we all stop sending money in while they are shut down, as a matter of fact lets just stop all together.

As Citizen this is our only Voice, of course maybe us sending money doesn't matter. They do not need us, they will just print more and ship around the world without us.
 
My view is the Federal Government is only supposed to provide essential services. If they are only providing essential services, then they are doing all that they are suppose to be doing. I honestly hope that they don't make an effort to hurt people so that a political point can be made. However, when the current nut jobs on both sides of the aisle, I don't think that is going to happen. Personally, I am holding the head nut responsible. He is the one negotiating with everyone except those that represent the citizenry of the United States. He obviously considers himself a potentate, and doesn't understand that he is not omnipotent.
 
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My view is the Federal Government is only supposed to provide essential services. If they are only providing essential services, then they are doing all that they are suppose to be doing. I honestly hope that they don't make an effort to hurt people so that a political point can be made. However, when the current nut jobs on both sides of the aisle, I don't think that is going to happen. Personally, I am holding the head nut responsible. He is the one negotiating with everyone except those that represent the citizenry of the United States. He obviously considers himself a potentate, and doesn't understand that he is not omnipotent.
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Funny how it all depends what channel you watch who the bad guys are and are not.

The speaker Looks a bit stressed and Beaten down, the president in my opinion showed little care for the american people and focused the Blame on the speaker. (REP)


I do not thinks the Majority of people want Health care provided by GOV. I do not!!
 
Ron Musgraves said:
Funny how it all depends what channel you watch who the bad guys are and are not.

The speaker Looks a bit stressed and Beaten down, the president in my opinion showed little care for the american people and focused the Blame on the speaker. (REP)


I do not thinks the Majority of people want Health care provided by GOV. I do not!!
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Commerce between states and other countries, defense, and a judicial system. That is all they are supposed to be doing anyway. Shut everything but that down, permanently, and we might get somewhere.



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Meh, if you stop trying to use your toes, you might have better success.
 
Tony Shelton said:
Commerce between states and other countries, defense, and a judicial system. That is all they are supposed to be doing anyway. Shut everything but that down, permanently, and we might get somewhere.



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I AM WITH THAT! I say keep it shut down. Give the states the power the constitution originally granted them. The constitution was written to limit the power of the federal government in the first place.
 
I'm with Scott. The "essential services" that they are performing during the shut down is about all that they should be performing in a regular day. If we had stuck to the original intent of the constitution then we wouldn't have these issues. It's like when you were a kid and your parents told you "don't go play over there." You went and played over there and got hurt. You should've listened to your parents.
 
Ron Musgraves said:
I would worry about this ten years ago, I'm not even sure how effective this all is any longer.

A shut down, really you mean like last time another paid vacation for federal workers for taking off.

I say we all stop sending money in while they are shut down, as a matter of fact lets just stop all together.

As Citizen this is our only Voice, of course maybe us sending money doesn't matter. They do not need us, they will just print more and ship around the world without us.
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Ron If I gave you my postal address can you arrange for some of that spare cash to come to New Zealand? Quite happy to receive US dollars. better still Direct Credit to my bank account would be easier. Cheers Stuart
 
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Ron If I gave you my postal address can you arrange for some of that spare cash to come to New Zealand? Quite happy to receive US dollars. better still Direct Credit to my bank account would be easier. Cheers Stuart
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Hold out for what ever it takes to stop this ridiculous Idea of Government healthcare. I see it now I'll have to carry un-insured Health Insurance because others won't pay. I see it now, laying on a gurney the doctor says Mr musgraves you do not have un-insured patient care on your policy. I have a dead beat next to you I have to work on first. I see you where able to pay for that and didn't, we have to work on this Dead Beat first because Fair is Fair. When they determined people are not paying like credit card Co uses Fraud as excuses to charge more interest the health care providers will Scream they need more money from the people willing to pay for those who will never. Next we are going to imprison those who do not carry it, so we can pay for them there. At least in prison they will get health care without paying because We will still have to pay. Let us all make a Choice, we do not need the GOV telling us this sort of thing. If we actually had Gov health care just make it free for all. Subsidize like any other Social programs. It will be really bad but this way we all could go elsewhere like canadians do. But really just leave it private, allow it to work without interference. Build a better Program for under privileged People who need help having good health care provided. I'm not against taking care of others, I'm against the government making me do it. We as americans have been paying our share for a Long while, we need a break to recover. The financial burdens of Fed business and interests are tearing us down and making the country weak. More Spending and possibly none of us may have health care. Its time to wake up Americans, we can't just keep creating this Monopoly money and think it will never come to and end. I support the Speaker on tabling this ridiculous spending. Someone needs to lead us to reality, we just do not want to hear it.
 
I hate to admit it. Obamacare might not be a bad deal. We have to carry auto insurance, we should carry health ins. There's still better ways to accomplish this though. I'm in the camp that thinks mandatory coverage will make the market more competitive. The ins cos will have to give better rates. If the rates go up, they still have to give better coverage. What bothers me though, this is all geared towards people in mid20's to mid 30's.

As far as the government shut down, they only have 30 days.
 
Insurance is just an extension of the verse shown below. What did people do before insurance was invented? They took responsibility for their actions. They saved their money for when they needed it, like for medical bills, or repairs of any sort. People do not save their money anymore, they use credit and insurance to solve their problems, both of which are not your money. Medical bills would be less than 100th of what they are now if insurance were never invented. If you want to know who loves money the most, just look around your town and see who has the largest buildings.... banks and insurance companies.

1 Timothy 6:10

King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]10 [/SUP]For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.


I'm fairly certain that if insurance becomes a requirement of law, then their will be a lot of people going to jail for not participating. Insurance is just the beginning of the snowball effect of destroying lives.
 
So far people are finding that their health insurance costs are going up by three to four times. As for insurance, it really stinks that I am afraid to make a claim for fear of losing coverage. It is required for every one of my contracts, and if I lose insurance it would cost me $250,000 at a minimum.
 
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