Should You Turn your Competitors in if they are not Reclaiming?

Should you turn your Competition In?

  • YES

    Votes: 8 23.5%

  • NO

    Votes: 26 76.5%
  • Total voters
    34
I would never turn anyone in Ever, I think if things are going to change the regulators need to do the job or implement education.

Paul Kassander said:
I would agree with that...Again as for turning them in it really depends on the situation and how bad it is.
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DOES A COMPANYS LIABILITY INSURANCE COVER WASTE WATER RUNOFF FROM WASHNG??? (not pollution liability) I ran into this about a year ago from a large fleet who had a guy working out of his Bronco and a 12ft. trailer, no reclaim. Local managers were looking other way and this what they told our sales guy..........
 
Fleet Chemicals said:
DOES A COMPANYS LIABILITY INSURANCE COVER WASTE WATER RUNOFF FROM WASHNG??? (not pollution liability) I ran into this about a year ago from a large fleet who had a guy working out of his Bronco and a 12ft. trailer, no reclaim. Local managers were looking other way and this what they told our sales guy..........
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Don't Know , I never allow this to happen.

Fleet wash is very different application from What I do. Contaminate are already existing, I'm paid to reduce the pollution amount that could get into US waters.

I can reduce without reclaim 99.99999% of the time.
 
fw is a different beast but we still need protect our customers liability. ive asked my new insurance provider about and they stated it would not. we had a fence company that was cleaning their aluminum fencing with standard alum bright on gravel. DEQ gave them a warning. Co. ignored it. After second inspection DEQ fined them 20k and had them remediate all soils of customers property down two feet. insurance did not pick up. i have more stories as well. craziest is churches getting fines due to rain water run off....
 
Tony Shelton said:
If you call in speeders on the interstate to 911 to report them, then yes, you should turn in your competitors.

If you call in to report that your neighbor washed his car on the driveway instead of the grass, then yes, you should turn in your competitors.

If you see an unmarked pickup truck arrive at your neighbor's house and work on his air conditioner and report that, then yes, you should turn in your competitor.

If you notice an expired license plate in front of you and call 911 to report it, then yes, turn in your competitor.

If you do those things above you are simply an azzhole. Just like you are if you turn in your competitors.

Turning in your competitors simply means you are too weak to sell your service to your customers on it's own merits and you have to cry to the authorities to try to make up for your pathetic salesmanship. It's just your next step towards business failure and going back to a paycheck job where you belong to free up the market for real contractors who mind their own business, put their nose to the grindstone and grind out a good living by doing the job better, faster and more economically palatable for their customers.

There's nothing wrong with pointing out TO YOUR CUSTOMERS how much better you do your job than your competitors. But subjecting your competitors to unnecessary interference and costs incurred by dealing with government agencies is a dirty move that I pray at night will be paid back tenfold in economic disaster for any contractor who dares to do it.

If we see a rape happening it's our duty to FIRST try to stop it, then report what we saw. With rape there is a VICTIM. There is no monetary gain for you to report a crime where a VICTIM has been harmed. What we are talking about are generally VICTIMLESS VIOLATIONS. Unless you go down stream of the work being done and see a bunch of dead fish in the water THERE IS NO VICTIM. Any REPORTING of this "crime" serves only to try to put money in your pocket by taking money out of your competor's pocket.

I hope anyone who agrees with me will join in praying that those who do such things and bring unnecessary government involvement and hardship into the lives of other contractors for the purpose of eventually putting more money in their own pocket reaps the reward of economic devastation and are exposed to their families as the weak, gutless, effeminate creature they really are.

Here's a simple way to remember MYOFB.

I probably just closed this thread down with that post. If you disagree, please, grow a pair and state your case instead of running off to mama (or some other softball throwing daisies and roses board) to complain about how horrible we are here at PWI.
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I didnt even read half of the replies and this one is GOLD.. I agree.. Grow some balls and get your own customers.. If you dont like the way someone else is doing thier job then stfu..
 
Fleet Chemicals said:
fw is a different beast but we still need protect our customers liability. ive asked my new insurance provider about and they stated it would not. we had a fence company that was cleaning their aluminum fencing with standard alum bright on gravel. DEQ gave them a warning. Co. ignored it. After second inspection DEQ fined them 20k and had them remediate all soils of customers property down two feet. insurance did not pick up. i have more stories as well. craziest is churches getting fines due to rain water run off....
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No that isn't crazy, property owner are responsible for rain water run off. Thats my whole point in my practice. If my water is leaving why did they allow the property to be built incorrectly?
 
Ron Musgraves said:
By the Way all these guys Fleet-washing are in jeopardy. The larger operations are pushing this industry to stationery pads built on-site or close to facility.

This is being pushed by the larger manufacture of equipment.
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Lol, we will take over those as well. Just picked up 2 huge fleets that had automated systems. Customer had them pulled out, said they are unreliable and to expensive. Us fleet guys will alwayd be around and will always out wash a computer.
 
Fleet Chemicals said:
Lol, we will take over those as well. Just picked up 2 huge fleets that had automated systems. Customer had them pulled out, said they are unreliable and to expensive. Us fleet guys will alwayd be around and will always out wash a computer.
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I'm happy to hear you think this is changing, funny that organizations are pressing for stiffer laws and regulations.
 
patheitc if you ask me. the reality is mobile cleaners will always be around. as with any business, we will change with any new regs. if these oems think they can regulates us out of the industry its pie in the sky thinking. they need to be more cncerned about improving their products b/c thy arent tht good.
 
Ron Musgraves said:
87% of the criminals here agree
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I reclaim every job that requires it and take photos at each job to prove that I did the job legal.. I reclaimed at all the Pepsi jobs in Arkansas all day today while they took pictures of me as well... Its the assholes that spend ungodly amounts of money on reclaim that are trying to justify their idiotic purchases that wanna go act like whiners and ruin peoples jobs and lives.. I say if your a ta-tel tale sissy then you will lose in the end.. Youd have to be a dirty asshole for turning a hard working man into the law for trying to feed his family.. Just my opinion.
 
Ron Musgraves said:
No that isn't crazy, property owner are responsible for rain water run off. Thats my whole point in my practice. If my water is leaving why did they allow the property to be built incorrectly?[/QUOTE]


Maybe the EPA and DEQ should start investigating properties and dig into why properties are not built correctly, see who got paid under the table, see what city/gov't officials let this happen and start prosecuting them and make the property owners make the properties compliant so there will never be a need to go after guys trying to earn a living washing.

Just my opinion.
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we dont need any more involvement by deq. they've have gone after churches here for rainwater run off, $10k - $20k fines, for rainwater running off parking lots into wooded areas.....government is never ANY solution but is ALWAYS the problem.
 
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