Should You Turn your Competitors in if they are not Reclaiming?

Should you turn your Competition In?

  • YES

    Votes: 8 23.5%

  • NO

    Votes: 26 76.5%
  • Total voters
    34
Scott D. said:
Tony and Ron,

If the law is to reclaim, and your spend time and money to comply which raises your costs and you lose business to a competitor who does not comply and therefore can charge less, YOU are the victim.

Everything you stated above are victimless crimes. Why not just allow illegals to roam free and take jobs because they charge less for their services? Wait we do and we're pissed and ill turn them in once the government starts presecuting.
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Then why not turn them in for using off road diesel in the truck, or for using their children to make copies in the office at billing time. These are all things that give ome competitor a slight advantage over another, and its none of pur business.

Personally Scott, I have never called the police on anyone except when I saw a house being robbed. They are usually too late and accomplish nothing anyway. I wouldn't call the police on illegals either. It is not my place to go around doing any law enforcer's job. I don't get paid to do that. They are lazy enough already.

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Actually tony it is your place. There are not and never will be enough law enforcement. We have the right to make a citizens arrest for a reason. I have called the police on vehicles I suspected to have a drunk driver. I followed a guy for 60 miles because he was hitting the railing. Turned out he was double the legal limit and they suspected on other drugs. This has nothing to do with this conversation though.

I will use every advatage to further my business as long as its ethical and legal.
 
In Houston, you don't have to worry about guys turning in others, one company is doing that, they are the eyes, photos, and emails of the police (probably without getting paid for doing it) and have turned in pressure washing contractors numerous times, I forgot their name, is it Goldblame, no, maybe it is Goldenrat, no, I forgot their name, O Well. Down here or further south or over on the East coast, they would not be ratting on people long, things have a way of working themselves out.
 
Christopher said:
In Houston, you don't have to worry about guys turning in others, one company is doing that, they are the eyes, photos, and emails of the police (probably without getting paid for doing it) and have turned in pressure washing contractors numerous times, I forgot their name, is it Goldblame, no, maybe it is Goldenrat, no, I forgot their name, O Well. Down here or further south or over on the East coast, they would not be ratting on people long, things have a way of working themselves out.
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Easy there buddy, thats all water under the bridge and actually is a further testament that this is not a good sistuation for the industry.
 
I agree completely with Tony. Too many people do not realize the UNITENDED consequences of the road that the pressure washing industry is heading. Those that don't understand how it works will inevitably be the ones making the laws. This goes for sidewalk washing, fleet washing and the like. One rain store pollutes more than my operation will EVER! But no one seems to listen to Tony and so no one I suspect will listen to me. I don't want these strict rediculous rules so I would not encourage it by turning someone in.
 
Don't misunderstand my position. I HATE the laws on the books. I think they are misguided and overly intrusive and a money grab.

But they are the law. And if me complying loses me jobs because someone else isn't complying. You bet your ass ill take advantage and turn them in. I don't fleet wash so I guess for me its a non issue but that's my position. I don't think its right or wrong, it just is.
 
When you wash fleets your breaking the LAW by not reclaiming if your not on a pad. It doesn't matter where you are its the law, maybe there is no enforcement in many counties and states.

Scott D. said:
Don't misunderstand my position. I HATE the laws on the books. I think they are misguided and overly intrusive and a money grab.

But they are the law. And if me complying loses me jobs because someone else isn't complying. You bet your ass ill take advantage and turn them in. I don't fleet wash so I guess for me its a non issue but that's my position. I don't think its right or wrong, it just is.
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Then don't wash fleets without being on a pad until the law is changed. You can't just break the law and not expect consequences.
 
Scott D. said:
Then don't wash fleets without being on a pad until the law is changed. You can't just break the law and not expect consequences.
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I agree, I still wont turn my competitors in, just not my style. maybe ive been stupid for 27 years.
 
Yea people start turning people in.....then that brings alot of unwanted attention to the industry....negative attention....end up on the news. then everytime one of these local guys see someone washing a truck, reclaiming or not, theyll probaly get there balls busted....since most dont know nothing about it to begin with....it just never helps when you got people calling in, c"OH HES BREAKING THE RULES, OFFICER OFFICER! HELP!" ......btw I do reclaim. I deal with this all the time. But I wouldnt call in on someone not doing it. I wouldnt call in on someone if I knew they cheated on there taxes....or smoking a joint on there porch. I just wont do it. Really dont care what alot of other people do honestly...
 
No ron not stupid. But you don't need the leg up. You'd be the one id turn in if you were my competitor.
 
People in this business should be worried about themselves and how they operate. If you run your business in a manner that can cause yourself harm or potential negative consequences, then thats on you.... At the same time, you should not have to worry about every competitor videotaping you and trying to ruin your business. Running around pointing the finger at others about what they are doing wrong is plain out wrong. Besides, karma is a bi*ch!!
I have to agree with Tony on this one......MYOFB!
 
Ron Musgraves said:
Has our current orgs done a good Job educating customers? ( The industry)
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No, none of them, but I don't blame the Orgs. I blame the Contractors in our industry. Why shouldn't our Industry have a strong Org. that is "Visible" to the public, that has 1000,s of members, that will stand up and represent the best interests of "The Contractor"???????????????

Because We Don't Want One, Because We Can't Agree To Disagree, Because We can't Agree To Agree...........Because we as a whole won't become involved, because we as a whole won't stand up and demand it.

We B*tch, snipe, pick apart and tear down each other until there's nothing left, no "Cohesion" or "Unity".

There is still 1 Org. out there that can make the difference if 25-30 contractors gave a crap enough to help build it back up, instead of watching it slowly fade away and making it the butt of jokes. It's a by Contractor for Contractor Org.......................Wanna B*tch Or Build? The Choice Is Yours.
 
I would say build but there are too many interest out there that are hard to overcome.

No matter how you slice it the same ones that control all the drama and "shitsturring" are and always be there.

Until some decide that they are not the all knowing contractors then we will be stuck with what we have ........ NOTHING
 
Russ Spence said:
I would say build but there are too many interest out there that are hard to overcome.

No matter how you slice it the same ones that control all the drama and "shitsturring" are and always be there.

Until some decide that they are not the all knowing contractors then we will be stuck with what we have ........ NOTHING
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May be so Russ........But still as Contractors we are either part of the problem.......Or part of the solution.
 
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