Lets Talk PWNA today

Mike V said:
OK.....I went to the site, read about ethics and enviromental issues. Networking is cool and all but I can get that elsewhere. What are the real benefits? Are there National Contracts, Leads, Information on Bids, etc.

I am all in if there is something that can really be gained from joining, but if it just another org. that people join for a listing on some directory and the chance to put a cool little logo on their website then I am not interested at all.
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The directory its self will get you leads.

In anything you put in some you get some back, working the entire scope of the logo and eviro will get you results.

Supporting your industry knowing you have others with the same interests are good.

The PWNA carries a broad spectrum of contractors. New old young experinced.
 
As we all know I am a big believer in orgs. I think if one day I could add the PWNA,NYSPA,NPA,UAMCC, BOMA,CAI and a few other orgs. Like a PWI org I would like to have all there logo's on my webpage. It just makes your company look that much more involved and interested. Yes some of these orgs cost a ton like BOMA but if you Market them right and go to there meetings while your guys are out in the field I think you can make plenty of serious contacts.

Yes I go to a convention or two and the same with RT's each year but I am not in the position yet because of my other job to donate the time I need to do what it is that I want to do to get to that next step. But when I do I will look to get involved alot more thru meetings and networking to score some bigtime work as in large jobs. That is my plan but once again I need to try to get out of my "Other Job" who now is offering me a 23% raise over the next 5 years. This job has been to good for me but it does cripple my growth of my Powerwashing business and I am also not getting any younger.....What to do what to do???????????????????
 
Clean County PW said:
As we all know I am a big believer in orgs. I think if one day I could add the PWNA,NYSPA,NPA,UAMCC, BOMA,CAI and a few other orgs. Like a PWI org I would like to have all there logo's on my webpage. It just makes your company look that much more involved and interested. Yes some of these orgs cost a ton like BOMA but if you Market them right and go to there meetings while your guys are out in the field I think you can make plenty of serious contacts.

Yes I go to a convention or two and the same with RT's each year but I am not in the position yet because of my other job to donate the time I need to do what it is that I want to do to get to that next step. But when I do I will look to get involved alot more thru meetings and networking to score some bigtime work as in large jobs. That is my plan but once again I need to try to get out of my "Other Job" who now is offering me a 23% raise over the next 5 years. This job has been to good for me but it does cripple my growth of my Powerwashing business and I am also not getting any younger.....What to do what to do???????????????????
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Are you in a Union too?
 
Mike V said:
Are you in a Union too?
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Also...I have been in this business for quite some time and have grown the business to levels that I never would have thought possible, I have 6 rigs running and we have grown every year. I say this only because in all my dealings with customers, I have never been asked ONCE about an association with an org. or where the little org logos were on my website. In fact people don't care, people dont expect it, people want their stuff cleaned well and want it cleaned at a fair price. People are suprised when they call and hear a professional business person on the phone and not some drunk, hillbilly painter doing this parttime.

If you want to grow, focus on YOUR business.
 
Mike V said:
Also...I have been in this business for quite some time and have grown the business to levels that I never would have thought possible, I have 6 rigs running and we have grown every year. I say this only because in all my dealings with customers, I have never been asked ONCE about an association with an org. or where the little org logos were on my website. In fact people don't care, people dont expect it, people want their stuff cleaned well and want it cleaned at a fair price. People are suprised when they call and hear a professional business person on the phone and not some drunk, hillbilly painter doing this parttime.

If you want to grow, focus on YOUR business.
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Some org believe you will hear from them in the future. These people are trying to make that happen in the industry. Its not good if the right people are not involved.
 
Best thing I ever did in business was join the PWNA. My business has grown 10 fold. I have learned so much from seasoned contractors and vendors that the cost of membership and attending conventions is minute. But the biggest reason that I continue to be involved is the friendships that I have made with many of the membership. When I leave from a convention, I'm inspired! I leave with a new sense, a new direction, new ideas. I learned something from someone. I go back and apply what I've learned and this always helps my business grow. It's seems like a no brainer to me? I started going to PWNA conventions 12 years ago, I had 3 mobile units(5 tons) now I have 20 of them in three provinces, I attribute alot of this sucsess to the PWNA. I would like it if you all considered joining. It's in all of our intrest to have a strong assoiation! The PWNA has never been in better shape!
 
Please explain how it is in our best interest to join. My business has also grown in the past ten years and I have made friends and learned new ways and ideas. I did not have to pay someone for that priviledge though, Or be a part of a clique to do it. Not knocking just the PWNA, I see no need for any org. No one in my area as ever heard of the PWNA for that matter, I never new it existed til a couple of years ago. I find them as beneficial as The Cleaner Times. Nothing new, lots of advertising for vendors, and rehashing of the same old stuff. I have been called cynical though.
 
Could you tell me Paul, why is do Canadians not seem to really participate in the boards, orgs, etc? More importantly, why do we not have anywhere up here to find info?

Equipment and Chem costs are so much higher, we really are left at the mercy of our suppliers. I find that even many of those are so far behind the times. Most of them don't even have websites yet.

I'm just curious. I really prefer not to see my direct competition on these boards or joining an org, but I really wouldn't mind networking with Canadians in other areas.
 
Sunshine said:
Could you tell me Paul, why is do Canadians not seem to really participate in the boards, orgs, etc? More importantly, why do we not have anywhere up here to find info?

Equipment and Chem costs are so much higher, we really are left at the mercy of our suppliers. I find that even many of those are so far behind the times. Most of them don't even have websites yet.

I'm just curious. I really prefer not to see my direct competition on these boards or joining an org, but I really wouldn't mind networking with Canadians in other areas.
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sorry...I could not resist.
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I am with William 100% on this.....You can get all the same benefits without "drinking the kool-aid"

I can only speak for myself but pretty sure William is in the same boat, it is not a cost issue at all, I could join every org there is, but will it bring me more biz, will it help to grow my biz, will I learn from it? Will it do a better job then this site, PT State or other free boards.

I know that many love these things and take great pride in membership, that is cool and I hope you get lots of joy from it. There are some people NEED to belong to something, some people NEED to have a title to feel important, need a logo to give themselves perceived credibility - I do not get it and hope I never will. These are things that are not important to me.
 
Mike V said:
Are you in a Union too?
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Yup and a past president to. In business you never want to let Unions in so I can see that no doubt. My Father owns a business where there are over a 100 employees and they have successfully kept the Unions out...so far.

On my other Job My Union is Golden which is why we have a decent contract and never had layoffs in ummmm 85 yrs. So yes I have experiences on both sides of the fence with all of this.

Organizations are not Unions but I think William doesnt want to hear that:wink:
 
I am looking forward to the 2010 Convention coming up. Should be a blast. Also Paul, thanks for taking the time to chat outside that lame bar on friday night.
 
This thread is about the pwna today, not what your opionion is!
That thread would be tittled what's your opionion of the pwna today. Feel free to start it, we welcome it.

I wanted to highlight the success and benifits contractors here have had with the pwna in the past.

They have alot of history and do represent the industry far better than some choices.
 
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