Fleet washing pics

I do like my lemonade...think they'll "spike" it for me?
 
RGilliam said:
I thought you guys where using shurflos? To apply chems? "use Shurflo pumps hooked into one gun, down stream acid at the tip. We wash 800 units per week. Very little, if any complaints. Plus, we just added 4 accounts last week. Heck, I only have 4 trucks and 4 operaters" ....... Happy is that what you use? Or do you upstream?
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Hey Im an upstream guy and use low pressure for stronger chems. I do like foam cannons. Im pretty new.Im down for trying new things for sure I dont think bioclean would be a good setup for me. Not saying that is what you meant but I think a system with a really adjustable ratio on the fly is the best setup. And an ability to use a wide range of chems. I think the bioclean system is good for a Major fleet guy.
 
Happysmobile said:
Hey Im an upstream guy and use low pressure for stronger chems. I do like foam cannons. Im pretty new.Im down for trying new things for sure I dont think bioclean would be a good setup for me. Not saying that is what you meant but I think a system with a really adjustable ratio on the fly is the best setup. And an ability to use a wide range of chems. I think the bioclean system is good for a Major fleet guy.
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Agreed, I was an upstreamer for a while and yes while up streaming you can get away with weaker ratios. I am not a fan of adaptability/adjustablilty because I don't want my employees having to think while on my clock. I wanted something that is consistent. Dave's/Mikey's way of foam cannons, or shur-flo pumps or however else one is applying their soap is their own preference. The only problem I have is when one person claims their way is the only way to get the job done. . We all have found our way of washing and if all were washing the same fleet would more than likely make the terminal managers and more importantly drivers happy. One guy may get done 20 seconds faster than the other and another may take 2 minutes longer but in the grand scheme of things it doesn't really matter.
 
Fleet Chemicals said:
The question Ron is what Dilution are you using? $50 for a drum of soap at what ratios? Anything 2-1 to10-1 is brushless, especially 2 step. At this point I'm using my stuff at 30-1 to 50-1, power soaping, 4k psi(by passing pump btw), all off one gun, single step with killer results. Same dilutions for Acid and 2 step. Talk about cheap and effective!

I love when the Zep or the Glory guys stte you cut the soap 4-1 then down stream at 10/20-1 and be brushless with a single step. Anyone try it??? Their full of shit! Not even close. We tried Crap Brite at 20-1, didnt do shit on a white straight truck that we wash every other week. Our stuff killed it, you could see our soap just tearing through it.
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You may have gotten some of the off-mix stuff I got ahold of one time with Panel Brite. I picked up a 5-er a long time ago to try it out and had similar results. we couldn't cut it at all before ds'ing it. It cleaned but I also charged 75.00 for this trailer so it made no difference to me the cost of it because I was not in the truck washing field at that time. I ordered a drum kit from Russ and noticed his product was much darker. Come to find out the product I recieved was either cut extremely with water or was missing a few components of the actual recipe. I keep PB on hand for a few reasons but its not something I use regularly.

I have personally seen this off-mix stuff being cut with water after it leaves the mix tank up to 25 gallons.
 
Chris Tharpe said:
Agreed, I was an upstreamer for a while and yes while up streaming you can get away with weaker ratios. I am not a fan of adaptability/adjustablilty because I don't want my employees having to think while on my clock. I wanted something that is consistent. Dave's/Mikey's way of foam cannons, or shur-flo pumps or however else one is applying their soap is their own preference. The only problem I have is when one person claims their way is the only way to get the job done. . We all have found our way of washing and if all were washing the same fleet would more than likely make the terminal managers and more importantly drivers happy. One guy may get done 20 seconds faster than the other and another may take 2 minutes longer but in the grand scheme of things it doesn't really matter.
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Very true I totally agree. As well as everyones process being a little different with pretty much same results is the same as everyones jobs being different. I Dont think one company will have the same type of dirt or salt or even customers driving habits so to each their own. Even your way might have a lighter gun setup and a past injury could be the reason you do what you do just because of what happened in your life. His way might use less pressure and more chems or whatever. Thats a good point with your employee's. I guess just using a little bit stronger mix all the time is cheaper then having to send them back or fix burnt or damaged stuff. Now for the panel brite. You have to give them credit they make alot of money on that stuff. It doesnt matter if u used it or not im sure you've heard of it.
 
Happysmobile said:
Very true I totally agree. As well as everyones process being a little different with pretty much same results is the same as everyones jobs being different. I Dont think one company will have the same type of dirt or salt or even customers driving habits so to each their own. Even your way might have a lighter gun setup and a past injury could be the reason you do what you do just because of what happened in your life. His way might use less pressure and more chems or whatever. Thats a good point with your employee's. I guess just using a little bit stronger mix all the time is cheaper then having to send them back or fix burnt or damaged stuff. Now for the panel brite. You have to give them credit they make alot of money on that stuff. It doesnt matter if u used it or not im sure you've heard of it.
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I think you ment weaker mix.
 
Blah Blah you get over it I am stating facts no bs he fabricates stories to try and sell his product.Are they not good enough to sell on there on by word of mouth just stating facts.Brad is a great guy still washing with that remote he helped me with works great when i 2 step which is rare.4000 psi to wash trucks with holy crap thats some power there.Dave in the video of you washing trucks its was cleaning the surface but you still needed some brightner on those rails.Ps Please dont disrespect my post anymore i am respectful to you and others.
 
While I was out washing trucks with a great chemical, I did not know what was going on here, wow. hahahahaha

That was funny Russ about putting down the Jack Daniels. hahahahaha

There are so many ways to wash a truck, so many chemicals, so many application methods, you just have to find out what works for you and be happy.
 
Kiloman said:
Blah Blah you get over it I am stating facts no bs he fabricates stories to try and sell his product.Are they not good enough to sell on there on by word of mouth just stating facts.Brad is a great guy still washing with that remote he helped me with works great when i 2 step which is rare.4000 psi to wash trucks with holy crap thats some power there.Dave in the video of you washing trucks its was cleaning the surface but you still needed some brightner on those rails.Ps Please dont disrespect my post anymore i am respectful to you and others.
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didntmean to disrespect, just meant to not let him get to you. i cant stand him either. sorry, should have clarified.
 
Kiloman said:
Jerry is a bold face liar with all these claims he makes.He claimed to sell to a race team in nc that bought bunches of chemical.I called him up and ask him which team it was since i live in The KING Of Nascars backyard and he fumbled around like a halfback with grease on his hands.Then he claims the crazy dilition ratios without caustic in them go figure
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hes so full of crap its unreal. sorry again
 
Fleet Chemicals said:
I wish I was drinking JD. You can keep dealing with idiots. I'm done dealing with it. I've stopped selling any of our chems to mobile washers. I have never dealt with so many people they know so little, are such a holes, unwilling to try anything new or LEARN how to wash more efficiently, but think they know so much. Pathetic.
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Wow, quite a rant there! I guess guys do PMS once in a while too. I think you've disrepected just about everyone that replyed here.

PS: If you quit selling to fleetwashers, you might want to think about changing your name.
 
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Has anyone used a product called Rapid Transit made by Spartan Chemical? It was the first soap we used when we started in '01. It was a "liquid" that you almost had to cut with a knife. It was the absolute best chemical I have ever used. I could downstream it at a 20:1 ratio through a chem tip or even an open hose end and it would foam enough to cling to the surface and keep it wet on the hottest day in direct sunlight. It was non-caustic and safe on all metals and gentle on skin. It was the perfect one step semi-brushless soap and we just needed alum bright for fuel tanks.
Apparently back in '05 some components were "outlawed" and Spartan changed it to Repaid Transit "Extreme". It looks and smells like the water hazard on a mini-golf course. I would suggest it works the same as mini-golf water on cleaning trucks!
I've got a 5gal bucket of the original and figured I'd hoard it until something special comes up!
I never used it to 2-step, in fact I never 2-stepped until '05 when I ran out of the good stuff. 2-step puts on a great show with immediate, obvious results. But, one step was fantastic. There is more dwell time, but I can't pull my hoses around the trucks any faster any way!
 
Everyone has to do what they have to do to get the job done.
 
Biodude said:
Wow, quite a rant there! I guess guys do PMS once in a while too. I think you've disrepected just about everyone that replyed here.

PS: If you quit selling to fleetwashers, you might want to think about changing your name.
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the people here understand how to wash and im not selling anything to them. im tired of taking calls from weekend warriors or guys that dont understand how to wash, work off the back of a pick up and wash 50 trucks a month and think they know everything there is to know. you ask them how they wash and they say "just use a bucket" or ask them if they down stream and they reply "whats that" or, if they what ds is, have no clue what ratio they have. just one of many examples. we would get tons of calls from guys that have no idea but act as if they do. i understand people need to start some where and learn are trade but most of these guys have no clue, none, and they would start saying they cant afford the chems, "to expensive". they pay $150 - $250 drum for some soap but its lasts them only for those fifty trucks or 100 at most at mid level prices. whats funny is one guy makes his own, uses 4 diff soaps per account and didnt know his own cost. he thought it was this then he said it might b that. y he uses 4 diff soaps per account who knows. frustrating to say the least. they r hurting our industry and making us look like amatures at best, cheapening our services, and de professionalizing us as a whole. we have a huge problem. ive talked with a ton of people in north america and canada and a vast majority have no clue or very little.

this industry needs leadership, we need a national organization that teaches and certifies, explores best practices, and EPA concerns, among other things. sounds crazy, i dont care if anyone buys these chems. i make 100x more money washing.

you can call it PMS, you can think im an AHole if you want, but its the truth and a lot of guys feel the same way i do. if these washers dont understand the business and dont want to learn the business and dont want to do things the right way then they need to get the F OUT of this industry. thats my point, thats where im coming from.
 
Fleet Chemicals said:
the people here understand how to wash and im not selling anything to them. im tired of taking calls from weekend warriors or guys that dont understand how to wash, work off the back of a pick up and wash 50 trucks a month and think they know everything there is to know. you ask them how they wash and they say "just use a bucket" or ask them if they down stream and they reply "whats that" or, if they what ds is, have no clue what ratio they have. just one of many examples. we would get tons of calls from guys that have no idea but act as if they do. i understand people need to start some where and learn are trade but most of these guys have no clue, none, and they would start saying they cant afford the chems, "to expensive". they pay $150 - $250 drum for some soap but its lasts them only for those fifty trucks or 100 at most at mid level prices. whats funny is one guy makes his own, uses 4 diff soaps per account and didnt know his own cost. he thought it was this then he said it might b that. y he uses 4 diff soaps per account who knows. frustrating to say the least. they r hurting our industry and making us look like amatures at best, cheapening our services, and de professionalizing us as a whole. we have a huge problem. ive talked with a ton of people in north america and canada and a vast majority have no clue or very little. this industry needs leadership, we need a national organization that teaches and certifies, explores best practices, and EPA concerns, among other things. sounds crazy, i dont care if anyone buys these chems. i make 100x more money washing. you can call it PMS, you can think im an AHole if you want, but its the truth and a lot of guys feel the same way i do. if these washers dont understand the business and dont want to learn the business and dont want to do things the right way then they need to get the F OUT of this industry. thats my point, thats where im coming from.
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If or when i decide to get into fleets I know who not to ask for help. Wow!
 
We have used panel brite and think we got great results.....leep in mind I don't consider us fleet washer and only do a hand full of truck accounts,but I think the pics speak for themself and this was all done without brushing.
 

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