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I dont sens any samples out any more, not worth it. In fact, i dont even sell to washers any more. I found most of them have no idea what dilution they use or how the chems work. Some of them have no clue, at all. What doea "work" mean? Brushless? Brush? What dilutions did u use them at? Whats the diluted cost per gallon? etc. I would send samples out to people and they would say it doesnt "work". They had no idea what dilution they were running. Couldnt tell me. They guessed. They didnt even know how to dilute to the recomended dilution. Others say its to expensive but did not know what dilution thet were at or how much they would use per truck. Had no idea what their true cost was. They just saw the cost per drum was higher than the $50 drum they buy from their local guy and it only lasts for 100 trucks. I make my money washing not selling. Ive tried a ton of bs soaps as well. This stuff so far above the others its scary. I really dont care any more who uses it. But if washers dont understand what thyr using and how to use it and what your cost is thyr opinion is garbage.
 
Dave,
I understand your passion, but really, you need to tone down the rhetoric.

I have used panel bright with great results. It has removed dirt for me that stuff from Eaco Chem, that was supposed to be the greatest did not touch. It actually made the salesman, who happened to be the owner of Eaco chem, angry because he could not get a garbage truck clean, and it was obvious.
We all have our opinions, but you do make an excellent point. If you don't know what your dilutions are, and what the costs are per truck, it is really difficult, if not impossible, to estalish pricing and standards.
 
Fleet Chemicals said:
The question Ron is what Dilution are you using? $50 for a drum of soap at what ratios? Anything 2-1 to10-1 is brushless, especially 2 step. At this point I'm using my stuff at 30-1 to 50-1, power soaping, 4k psi(by passing pump btw), all off one gun, single step with killer results. Same dilutions for Acid and 2 step. Talk about cheap and effective!I love when the Zep or the Glory guys stte you cut the soap 4-1 then down stream at 10/20-1 and be brushless with a single step. Anyone try it??? Their full of shit! Not even close. We tried Crap Brite at 20-1, didnt do shit on a white straight truck that we wash every other week. Our stuff killed it, you could see our soap just tearing through it.
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Can you explain how you are applying soap at pressure without going through the pump? Are you able to also turn the soap on and off at the gun?
 
Scott Stone said:
Dave,
I understand your passion, but really, you need to tone down the rhetoric.

I have used panel bright with great results. It has removed dirt for me that stuff from Eaco Chem, that was supposed to be the greatest did not touch. It actually made the salesman, who happened to be the owner of Eaco chem, angry because he could not get a garbage truck clean, and it was obvious.
We all have our opinions, but you do make an excellent point. If you don't know what your dilutions are, and what the costs are per truck, it is really difficult, if not impossible, to estalish pricing and standards.
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I'm glad you understand my point. Eaco is one of the companies with bogus dilution recommendations. Glory is good at 10/15-1 but is so a lot of other products. There are a number of washers, some included in this site, that have no idea what their dilutions are. They guess at it at best. They then say this soap or that soap works great! You ask them what the dilution is and you get "i think 30-1" or "does it matter." My point is ANY soap will "work", (whatever that means), at 10-1. Not sure how guys are buying soap, liquid, or powder, for $50 or even $150 per drum when the shipping and cost of the drum are close to that price point, unless their buying water with caustic beeds or something similiar. Then they say "your stuff is to expensive" even though I get 1500 trucks from one drum, 70% brushless. You ask them how long a drum of their soap lasts and they say "a few weeks." What does that mean? 10,000 trucks or 5? They have no answer.

The washers that do understand their business and have tried our stuff rave about it. These guys have used a lot of other products as well and state that this is the best they've used at recommended dilutions and SAVES them money.

This industry really needs a National Association that teaches basic wash practices and standards and best practices. Its unbelievable how many guys out their have no idea what their doing. Ive never "met" so many people that think they know so much but in reality know very little and refuse to make any changes. I guess you can lead horse to water but cant make him drink.
 
Some people need to put the Jack Daniels down before posting...


...just sayin'...
 
Hey guys why dont you ask where other chem vendors buy their stuff from or "out" them? Do you really think that all of them make/blend their own? I deal with the same blender that blends 10,000 different chemicals and for some of the biggest names on the shelves of Big Box stores. Shit, you probably have the stuff in your house! I have another blender on the east coast that blends thousands of other industrial / "green" products as well. Just proves how much you dont know.
 
Russ Johnson said:
Some people need to put the Jack Daniels down before posting...


...just sayin'...
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I wish I was drinking JD. You can keep dealing with idiots. I'm done dealing with it. I've stopped selling any of our chems to mobile washers. I have never dealt with so many people they know so little, are such a holes, unwilling to try anything new or LEARN how to wash more efficiently, but think they know so much. Pathetic.
 
Do you even realize how many on here have tried Panel Bright at my urging, only to find out that it is as good as I say it is? Gentle prodding works much better than "do it my way or you're an idiot!" Some are completely set in their ways, you can't hold that against them. They're of the "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" school. I'd love to sell Panel Bright to every fleet washer on here, but it's not going to happen. Some like two step, some swear by a non-caustic truck wash and a brush, that's their choice. I can only hope that you treat your fleet wash customers with more respect than you treated prospective customers here.

Best of luck to you.
 
Fleet Chemicals said:
I'm glad you understand my point. Eaco is one of the companies with bogus dilution recommendations. Glory is good at 10/15-1 but is so a lot of other products. There are a number of washers, some included in this site, that have no idea what their dilutions are. They guess at it at best. They then say this soap or that soap works great! You ask them what the dilution is and you get "i think 30-1" or "does it matter." My point is ANY soap will "work", (whatever that means), at 10-1. Not sure how guys are buying soap, liquid, or powder, for $50 or even $150 per drum when the shipping and cost of the drum are close to that price point, unless their buying water with caustic beeds or something similiar. Then they say "your stuff is to expensive" even though I get 1500 trucks from one drum, 70% brushless. You ask them how long a drum of their soap lasts and they say "a few weeks." What does that mean? 10,000 trucks or 5? They have no answer.

The washers that do understand their business and have tried our stuff rave about it. These guys have used a lot of other products as well and state that this is the best they've used at recommended dilutions and SAVES them money.

This industry really needs a National Association that teaches basic wash practices and standards and best practices. Its unbelievable how many guys out their have no idea what their doing. Ive never "met" so many people that think they know so much but in reality know very little and refuse to make any changes. I guess you can lead horse to water but cant make him drink.
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I agree with you. people get a product from somewhere cause their friend or whatever got them on it and they wont try new stuff. im sure there is gonna be a bunch of good chemicals introduced into the market or already here and they could be better or equal or worse than what you have already. But you will have to try them for yourself to find out if they work in your application. Like dave is using high pressure soap with his setup which compared to low pressure, works better and can use more of a diluted soap.
Like dave said most any soap will work if you use it strong enough. I think alot of people overlook their chemicals when thinking of costs. And alot of people overlook the person selling you chems as not being a way to save money from being a competent and honest retailer. It is an obvious bennefit if you can get a great product but have a really dependable honest salesman on your side makes the chem part of the business more profitable. Just imagine you could not have to worry if something is gonna be right or shipped when said to be shipped. And Tony R why dont you want to run your soap through your pump? get a good quality soap and use a high dilution which comes naturally to a good soap and you wont ever damage a pump from it.
 
and I have tried the chemicals, I have tried Jerrys chemicals. I have tried panel bright. I didnt dog his stuff out. Its not for me. I have the bioclean system. Its what works well. No need to bash other vendors. Im glad its working for you. But its not what I prefer. Are you still trying out new soaps? Even tho you are happy? Are you open to new products Chris?
 
RGilliam said:
I thought you guys where using shurflos? To apply chems? "use Shurflo pumps hooked into one gun, down stream acid at the tip. We wash 800 units per week. Very little, if any complaints. Plus, we just added 4 accounts last week. Heck, I only have 4 trucks and 4 operaters" ....... Happy is that what you use? Or do you upstream?
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Really?..?. When did you add the other trucks and employees. I guess alot changed since... Yesterday.
 
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