Been using laundry detergent for quite awhile bought at Costco . 172 oz "he "formula for front loads whisk ,all ,tide and they all smell and stick great. 13 to 16 dollars
Thanks for your input Jim. If you mix up say 50 gallons or so of roof cleaning mix, and put in "whatever laundry or dishsoap is on sale" that day, as long as you use up all the mix right away, you might be OK. The problem is, not all soaps are compatible with Chlorine Bleach, much less the far stronger Pool Chlorine. Soaps that are not compatible will weaken the mix, and the Chlorine will "un soap the soap"! Also, toxic fumes will be released that can toast your lungs, especially if you do not wear a respirator, not to mention the needless eye irritation. My dedicated roof cleaning trucks are flatbeds, with dual 300 gallon chemical tanks. One is for tile roofs, and one is for shingle. I can not take the chance of adding a non chlorine compatible soap, and have it eat up all 600 gallons of my ****.
The RCIA Forum is a dedicated roof cleaning forum. Some years ago, myself and several other roof cleaners pioneered Chlorine Stable Surfactants, and introduced them to the roof cleaning world, by telling several distributors about them. Billy Jensen, of H2o Pressure Washing in New Port Richey Florida found Lauramine Oxide, that is sold under the trade name Ammonyx LO. I found Myristamine Oxide, sold under the name Ammonyx M. Lori from Pressure Washer Products (PWP) here in Florida was told of our research, saw the great marketing opportunity to sell it to roof cleaners, and jumped all over it. She sold the living **** out of both of these products, and initially called Myristamine (Ammonyx M) her "Apple Butter" to convey to customers it was thick, and to "Honor Me" she said.
I never asked for, nor did I receive, anything for my discovery. For reasons unknown to me, she stopped calling it Apple Butter, and renamed it Gription.
Lori was soon copied by some distributors I also told about the RCIA Research into Chlorine stable surfactants, and the Discoveries we made. I did not think it fair to the other distributors to tell Lori, and not tell them.
I also told Lori about the RCIA research into masking the smell of the Chlorine based roof cleaning mix we all use, and even told her what it was, and where to get it. Because Lori and Pressure Washer Products donated money to help pay our Forum Bills, I decided to sort of keep the masking the smell of Chlorine Research, and where to get it from, to myself. Eventually, I also shared that information with a few other distributors.
Now, I am sharing my latest discovery, Ultra Gain Green Original Scent Liquid Dishsoap with every roof cleaner. There is no money to be made by a distributor re selling it anyway. In fact, it is going to put the big Smackdown on resellers of Lauramine based (Ammonyx) Surfactants. Remember, Gain HAS Ammonyx (Lauramine) IN it!
In fact, The Gain is SUPERIOR, for roof cleaning use, to straight Ammonyx based Surfactants, and here is why. Though Non RCIA Members can't see it (Yes, we hide the good stuff), I posted a Surfactant Viscosity Chart that clearly shows HOW to use Chlorine Stable Surfactants
together, to get a thicker final product! Gain is a Chlorine Stable Surfactant MIXTURE, thus it will thicken up your mix better then Lauramine (Ammonyx) alone! And, it gets even better (and worse for sellers of Ammonyx), because Gain also has a very strong Masking Agent in it as well! No, it is not QUITE as good as a separate Chlorine Masking agent like the Green Apple fragrance some distributors sell, but if you use enough of the Gain Dishsoap, it is surprisingly effective in covering the Chlorine smell!
It is not my intent to hurt any distributor selling Ammonyx (Lauramine), though some of you, for reasons only YOU know, chose NOT to give ANY credit to me, or the RCIA Guys, for our discoveries we acheived through hard work, personal financial outlays, and chasing many many dead ends, until we found what some of you now sell, and profit from, as IF it is your "Own"..
Well, guess what, the freaking Party is OVER.
The Gain makes Ammonyx obsoete, because it is a lot less money, and works and smells better.
But because I am a nice guy, and I know some of you have invested considerable money in re selling Ammonyx, here is what you should do.
There is an inexpensive chlorine stable surfactant that you can get, and if you combine it with Ammonyx, it will yield a nice and thick (thicker then Gain) surfactant that will be better then Gain, as far a cling goes. However, it will not have the smell masking capabiliies that Gain does.
OR, better yet, sell off your Ammonyx, while you still can, and switch to Myristamine! Mryistamine is MUCH better then Ammonyx. If you are buying drums of Ammonyx LO, then simply ask for Ammonyx M, it is a brand name for Myristamine.
It is 4 times as thick, meaning you can use a lot less.