Trailer ladder racks A+ quality
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Mike Hughes
Former Board Administrator
If this gets any more confrontational, I'll have to ask you to "take it outside".
Mike, if you think you're buddies ladder racks are so great, why not encourage him to post in his own thread here, rather then trash someone elses?
I like both racks.............they are two totally different things............one is for open trailer, and one is for enclosed.
Sorry for my error, Mike...........most of those black painted racks you see are not aluminum.
Mike, if you think you're buddies ladder racks are so great, why not encourage him to post in his own thread here, rather then trash someone elses?
I like both racks.............they are two totally different things............one is for open trailer, and one is for enclosed.
Sorry for my error, Mike...........most of those black painted racks you see are not aluminum.
I see it this way, Extreme is saying he will not pay alot of money for something when he can get the same or equal quality items for much less. Makes perfect sense to me.
Justin, Why does it seem that every time you make a post that you get upset with somebody? We all have our right to opinions.
Different people have different likes for equipment and quality, that is why their are so many companies out there.
In response to the profit part, PW stuff is one of the highest marked up items out there. Espec turns a profit just fine and they sell for half the price that others do.
Justin, Why does it seem that every time you make a post that you get upset with somebody? We all have our right to opinions.
Different people have different likes for equipment and quality, that is why their are so many companies out there.
In response to the profit part, PW stuff is one of the highest marked up items out there. Espec turns a profit just fine and they sell for half the price that others do.
Mike Hughes
Former Board Administrator
Shadow said:
Don't forget Espec is the Wal-Mart of pressure washing..............they can afford to sell for much less (volume).
Michael Cappa
Member
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Justin
Member
This post was to advertise ladder racks, not to fight with anyone. This area is for manufacturers and distributors to post their products for sale.
There's no need to argue anymore about nonsense. I have my opinions and Mike has his. I am incorporated and Mike is not so the name thing isn't even an argument.
Next time, compare apples to apples and then it wont get out of hand. I do this for a living. I am not a good welder.
I do not think the comments about my customers are warranted. Putting everyone out of business is not what you will be able to do.
I'm here to stay and have been here and staying for a long time now. The pressure washing business has been my livelyhood for a long time and I have made improvements to help other pressure washing companies be successful and simplify their jobs. This is what I do and I will continue to do this.
As far as a place to buy from cheaper than E-spec... well any distributor knows Mike that you dont' know what you are talking about when it comes pricing and where to buy. It's obvious with your comments.
The Ohio market is wide open and good luck taking it over and putting everyone out of business. I however take on the role of putting people into business, not out of business. We obviously have two different roles and goals as far as this is concerned. We want to help, not hurt.
I appologize to everyone that has been keeping up with this post. Some things were said that rubbed me the wrong way and it bothers me to see someone out there trying to destroy rather than build. I am human and I get angry at times and with what was said in this man's post about my customers, well maybe I reacted wrongly and I appologize.
From now on I will do my best to hold my tongue even when it hurts. Arguing does nothing but make both of us look bad.
The intention from the beginning was to sell a couple ladder racks. That's all.
Good luck to everyone and should anyone in Ohio even be thinking about going out of business, call me and I will help. Anyone in Ohio that wants to get into business that is not already there, call me and I will help.
No need to waste anymore valuable time arguing about nonsense.
There's no need to argue anymore about nonsense. I have my opinions and Mike has his. I am incorporated and Mike is not so the name thing isn't even an argument.
Next time, compare apples to apples and then it wont get out of hand. I do this for a living. I am not a good welder.
I do not think the comments about my customers are warranted. Putting everyone out of business is not what you will be able to do.
I'm here to stay and have been here and staying for a long time now. The pressure washing business has been my livelyhood for a long time and I have made improvements to help other pressure washing companies be successful and simplify their jobs. This is what I do and I will continue to do this.
As far as a place to buy from cheaper than E-spec... well any distributor knows Mike that you dont' know what you are talking about when it comes pricing and where to buy. It's obvious with your comments.
The Ohio market is wide open and good luck taking it over and putting everyone out of business. I however take on the role of putting people into business, not out of business. We obviously have two different roles and goals as far as this is concerned. We want to help, not hurt.
I appologize to everyone that has been keeping up with this post. Some things were said that rubbed me the wrong way and it bothers me to see someone out there trying to destroy rather than build. I am human and I get angry at times and with what was said in this man's post about my customers, well maybe I reacted wrongly and I appologize.
From now on I will do my best to hold my tongue even when it hurts. Arguing does nothing but make both of us look bad.
The intention from the beginning was to sell a couple ladder racks. That's all.
Good luck to everyone and should anyone in Ohio even be thinking about going out of business, call me and I will help. Anyone in Ohio that wants to get into business that is not already there, call me and I will help.
No need to waste anymore valuable time arguing about nonsense.
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Jon
Member Specialist
Mike and Justin I know both of you and neither of you are doing justice to the board with this petty my guy is better then you thing.
Mike knows I know who his guy is, have been in touch with him too and I will not side with either, both do good work, (quality) if you want to use that word.
Justin you mention that since your incorproated and Mike is not the business name thing is not an issue, here in California it would be, what counts is who first registered the name, incorproated or not, the first to register is they one who claims the name.
Not sure how it works in Ohio but both of you might want to research that and work it out without the personal attacks and self distructing arguments.
I consider both of you guys friends and will not side with either here, just want you to know about the WHO REGISTERED FIRST rule.
What I will say is compared to the guy who does my fabricating both Justin and Mike's guy beat him by a mile and my guy is suppose to be good, have known and used him for years on other things too.
Justin, Mike how about trying this, "agree to disagree and still be friends".
Jon
Mike knows I know who his guy is, have been in touch with him too and I will not side with either, both do good work, (quality) if you want to use that word.
Justin you mention that since your incorproated and Mike is not the business name thing is not an issue, here in California it would be, what counts is who first registered the name, incorproated or not, the first to register is they one who claims the name.
Not sure how it works in Ohio but both of you might want to research that and work it out without the personal attacks and self distructing arguments.
I consider both of you guys friends and will not side with either here, just want you to know about the WHO REGISTERED FIRST rule.
What I will say is compared to the guy who does my fabricating both Justin and Mike's guy beat him by a mile and my guy is suppose to be good, have known and used him for years on other things too.
Justin, Mike how about trying this, "agree to disagree and still be friends".
Jon
Aplus
Member
Justin,
OK something different..... what about nice aluminum ladder racks that can be attached to the top of the cap on my truck? It's a short bed, I think 6 1/2 foot. Can you supply this?
I'm not sure about the racks on top of the trailer, because it seems they'd be harder to get on and off. My trailer is over 7 feet high, I'd have to have a ladder to get the ladders off!!!
OK something different..... what about nice aluminum ladder racks that can be attached to the top of the cap on my truck? It's a short bed, I think 6 1/2 foot. Can you supply this?
I'm not sure about the racks on top of the trailer, because it seems they'd be harder to get on and off. My trailer is over 7 feet high, I'd have to have a ladder to get the ladders off!!!
Mike Hughes
Former Board Administrator
Mike Hughes
Former Board Administrator
I'm sure he'll respond once he views your post.
Justin
Member
Tony,
I apologize for the delay but I've been very busy lately. As for the ladder racks for the truck cap... No, I don't have them and no we have no plans to make any of them. Don't get me wrong, because I would love to but I have enough on my plate right now.
The ladder racks for your topper would be simple to do but it's not something I have time for in the next 2 months for sure. If you would like to wait until I have the time, then I will be happy to assist. If I make one ladder rack for a topper, I'm making 100 so I can pass along price savings to you.
Tony, any time that you are interested and really interested in something from me, email me. I have left my email and my phone number. I don't get on here every day. Heck, sometimes there's weeks I don't get on here so if you want to do business, the best way is to contact me directly. That's how we would discuss price and that's how you would give me measurements and all that.
When you see that I have logged on sometimes during the day, it's more than likely my secretary. She pokes around on here a little to learn more about this business. So basically, if you want something then contact me like you would contact any other business because I might miss it on here.
Thank you Tony for taking an interest in my ladder racks. I will let you know when I'm ready to take on another thing to do.
Right now we have water softeners galore. I am getting ready to tell everyone about them but I have had no time. Anyway if something changes soon with the rack situation, I will let you know.
I apologize for the delay but I've been very busy lately. As for the ladder racks for the truck cap... No, I don't have them and no we have no plans to make any of them. Don't get me wrong, because I would love to but I have enough on my plate right now.
The ladder racks for your topper would be simple to do but it's not something I have time for in the next 2 months for sure. If you would like to wait until I have the time, then I will be happy to assist. If I make one ladder rack for a topper, I'm making 100 so I can pass along price savings to you.
Tony, any time that you are interested and really interested in something from me, email me. I have left my email and my phone number. I don't get on here every day. Heck, sometimes there's weeks I don't get on here so if you want to do business, the best way is to contact me directly. That's how we would discuss price and that's how you would give me measurements and all that.
When you see that I have logged on sometimes during the day, it's more than likely my secretary. She pokes around on here a little to learn more about this business. So basically, if you want something then contact me like you would contact any other business because I might miss it on here.
Thank you Tony for taking an interest in my ladder racks. I will let you know when I'm ready to take on another thing to do.
Right now we have water softeners galore. I am getting ready to tell everyone about them but I have had no time. Anyway if something changes soon with the rack situation, I will let you know.
Michael Cappa
Member
The racks are aluminum. the trailer is steel. You may be right, about the welding issue. That is why we bolted the racks to the trailer, also functional to the point of removing them if I want to put them on a different trailer, or if I want to reconfigure them, I like bolting them to the trailer instead of welding them to the trailer.
As for the price, I just got a good deal.
As for the price, I just got a good deal.
Michael Cappa
Member
also just picked up a cox hp reel with a 300 ft of hp hose capacity for less than 200.00. Brand new in the box.
Justin
Member
I'm curious... how are these bolted? I mean, if the are aluminum and they butt up against the trailer rails and those are steel, how and where are the bolted?
I can't see any bolts in the frame work and cant possibly imagine where you would put the bolts. Excuse me for being logical, but, theoretically if the aluminum was bolted, there would be only room for 4 bolts to hold it down the way it's designed. With that in mind, then the holes in the aluminum would begin to spread and they wouldn't hold up very long at all. Besides, I could take the exact same ladder rack in this picture and if you were to tell me these were aluminum and I had to bolt them on somehow I would think you're crazy because there's no way 4 bolts at the base of this thing (to aluminum) would hold.
I went to school for engineering and taking a close look at the entire thing and Mike saying that there are bolts holding these painted black, aluminum ladder racks to this trailer... I'm just wondering how.
If you don't mind, Mike from Extreme... without further ado... since this thread got blown out of wack... could you please take a picture of how these are bolted down to the trailer so we all understand how they are held on.. I know I couldn't bolt these on in that fashion without being super creative and then I would worry about them holding.
All being said, I sure would like to learn how to bolt that style ladder rack to the frame of a steel trailer and get them to hold at that height while absorbing the wear and tear of driving down the road.. because in my experiences the holes in the aluminum would wear out rather quickly.
Thanks
I can't see any bolts in the frame work and cant possibly imagine where you would put the bolts. Excuse me for being logical, but, theoretically if the aluminum was bolted, there would be only room for 4 bolts to hold it down the way it's designed. With that in mind, then the holes in the aluminum would begin to spread and they wouldn't hold up very long at all. Besides, I could take the exact same ladder rack in this picture and if you were to tell me these were aluminum and I had to bolt them on somehow I would think you're crazy because there's no way 4 bolts at the base of this thing (to aluminum) would hold.
I went to school for engineering and taking a close look at the entire thing and Mike saying that there are bolts holding these painted black, aluminum ladder racks to this trailer... I'm just wondering how.
If you don't mind, Mike from Extreme... without further ado... since this thread got blown out of wack... could you please take a picture of how these are bolted down to the trailer so we all understand how they are held on.. I know I couldn't bolt these on in that fashion without being super creative and then I would worry about them holding.
All being said, I sure would like to learn how to bolt that style ladder rack to the frame of a steel trailer and get them to hold at that height while absorbing the wear and tear of driving down the road.. because in my experiences the holes in the aluminum would wear out rather quickly.
Thanks
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Michael Cappa
Member
You are correct in the placement of the bolts. For each rack, there are two, there are four bolts. I will take the best pic I can, but will try to explain here. The endcaps on every end of the racks are welded. Where the bolts are, the builder drilled holes through the endcaps (on the bottom) and also welded nuts to the inside of the end caps. He then drilled through the steel trailer and slid the bolt up through the trailer into the welded nut and tightened them. I am not sure I explained this real well, but did everyone understand that? As you can see, I can only take a picture of the underneath part of the trailer rail, where the bolts are, I would have to disassemble the racks to take a picture of the welded nuts. Make sense now?
Justin
Member
I guess I understand. My question is, if the ladder racks are aluminum then how are the end caps welded? Wouldn't the end caps have to be steel in order to weld nuts on the inside? I don't imagine an aluminum nut would hold up too well. Finding and aluminum nut would pose to be most difficult.
Then if the end caps are aluminum end caps, then the nut on the inside would be welded to what?
It's just a little confusing.
Thanks
Then if the end caps are aluminum end caps, then the nut on the inside would be welded to what?
It's just a little confusing.
Thanks