Trailer ladder racks A+ quality
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Michael Cappa
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how much? what are they made out of, aluminum? what are the end caps made out of?
Justin
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Mike,
Been real busy, sorry it took so long for me to respond.
These racks are made out of aluminum and tig welded to perfection. Notice that they are not spot welded. The endcaps are plastic.
For 2 racks they run $320.00 For 3, they run $480.00 Free installation should you be in the area.
We are making a couple small changes on these and then will start mass producing them. At that point, we will try to get the price a little lower. Our target market will be distributors, not end users. I will post pics of the new ones as they come out.
Been real busy, sorry it took so long for me to respond.
These racks are made out of aluminum and tig welded to perfection. Notice that they are not spot welded. The endcaps are plastic.
For 2 racks they run $320.00 For 3, they run $480.00 Free installation should you be in the area.
We are making a couple small changes on these and then will start mass producing them. At that point, we will try to get the price a little lower. Our target market will be distributors, not end users. I will post pics of the new ones as they come out.
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CompletelyClean
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Are these things user friendly for the vertically-challenged?
I hope this isn't a dumb question...how do you get the ladder on/off this rack? I MIGHT be able to stand on the tailgate of my truck and reach it, but then I run the risk of scratching up the Heavy Chevy.
I hope this isn't a dumb question...how do you get the ladder on/off this rack? I MIGHT be able to stand on the tailgate of my truck and reach it, but then I run the risk of scratching up the Heavy Chevy.
Michael Cappa
Member
Well, I hope you all the luck in the world, but have no idea how you get away with charging what you do. If the picture works, I had ladder racks custom made for my trailer, aluminum racks, perfect welds, the end caps aren't plastic, they were welded and painted, 150.00. Yes, that was installed. You sure are steep with prices. But, if you get it, great.
Can't find the pic, but will find it and post it later.
Can't find the pic, but will find it and post it later.
Michael Cappa
Member
Justin
Member
Thank you Chuck. Mike, those ladder racks look great too.
There will always be someone who can make them cheaper for you. Especially if it's a business with low overhead. When they come along, it's good to take advantage of the prices. However I do not have that. I go all out for quality and consistency and I charge for it too. I'd rather charge a little more and be proud of what we manufacture and not have to worry about returns.
.... So the story goes. I made a deal to purchase trailers off of one company if I could get the premium discount. I will purchase all my trailers from them probably for a while, but when my customer also wanted ladder racks, I put an order for those too. Needless to say, when I went to take delivery of the trailer... it was a wreck. The ladder racks had been cut and spot welded because they were too big and they welded one, one way and another a different way. Not happening with me. While taking them off, I noticed that they had secured my customer's ladder racks with 1/4 inch self tapping screws. Two of them per side... LOL. NO WAY! By this time I was wondering how in the heck they would even allow their employees to assemble anything in that fashion. The lights were all messed up... just not to our standards. So we made them. Now we have orders for more. We have designed a different one and are sending to production very soon.
Surface cleaners are next... then machines. We will not necessarily be the cheapest in price but we will have a target market and that will be the people who want quality and are willing to pay for it.
Anything... I mean anything Mike that you buy today, tomorrow you can find it cheaper somewhere else. With that in mind, next time you buy anything, think about that a little. What difference does it make if it's a few dollars more. In the end, you'll get exactly what you are willing to pay for. This is true with life, work, love, and every thing else under the sun. You get what you pay for. This isn't to say that your racks aren't quality but I know mine are and I'm willing to prove it by maintaining a price that builds value in my product. My hose reels are expensive too but they are the best hose reels around. Take a look at those and take a look at what's out there and you'll see.
Anyway, I have to get busy now but I wanted to take a moment to get back with you on the pricing issue. I like your racks and if this guy welds aluminum with a tig welder and does it for that price and the welds aren't any less than the best, I would love to have him work for me. Pass my name on to him and I'm willing to try him out. I have many ladder racks that have to be made. However, I have great welders now. They charge a little more but not one of them has been welding for less than 20 years.
There will always be someone who can make them cheaper for you. Especially if it's a business with low overhead. When they come along, it's good to take advantage of the prices. However I do not have that. I go all out for quality and consistency and I charge for it too. I'd rather charge a little more and be proud of what we manufacture and not have to worry about returns.
.... So the story goes. I made a deal to purchase trailers off of one company if I could get the premium discount. I will purchase all my trailers from them probably for a while, but when my customer also wanted ladder racks, I put an order for those too. Needless to say, when I went to take delivery of the trailer... it was a wreck. The ladder racks had been cut and spot welded because they were too big and they welded one, one way and another a different way. Not happening with me. While taking them off, I noticed that they had secured my customer's ladder racks with 1/4 inch self tapping screws. Two of them per side... LOL. NO WAY! By this time I was wondering how in the heck they would even allow their employees to assemble anything in that fashion. The lights were all messed up... just not to our standards. So we made them. Now we have orders for more. We have designed a different one and are sending to production very soon.
Surface cleaners are next... then machines. We will not necessarily be the cheapest in price but we will have a target market and that will be the people who want quality and are willing to pay for it.
Anything... I mean anything Mike that you buy today, tomorrow you can find it cheaper somewhere else. With that in mind, next time you buy anything, think about that a little. What difference does it make if it's a few dollars more. In the end, you'll get exactly what you are willing to pay for. This is true with life, work, love, and every thing else under the sun. You get what you pay for. This isn't to say that your racks aren't quality but I know mine are and I'm willing to prove it by maintaining a price that builds value in my product. My hose reels are expensive too but they are the best hose reels around. Take a look at those and take a look at what's out there and you'll see.
Anyway, I have to get busy now but I wanted to take a moment to get back with you on the pricing issue. I like your racks and if this guy welds aluminum with a tig welder and does it for that price and the welds aren't any less than the best, I would love to have him work for me. Pass my name on to him and I'm willing to try him out. I have many ladder racks that have to be made. However, I have great welders now. They charge a little more but not one of them has been welding for less than 20 years.
Michael Cappa
Member
I do love the reels you have, but again, to expensive for my blood. I am happy with my reels. I was thinking the same thing, maybe you two should hook up. He already builds machines, built his own power driven reels and just got finished building a 14 gpm machine, I don't know why, he just said he wanted to do it. He wants so little for it, it will be a steal for someone to buy it. Then I did remember, you guys can't hook up, he is in almost the same biz as you, parts and sales and service. Funny, he also has a sweet surfacer going into production as we speak. Good old healthy competition.
Justin
Member
Good point. But then again, if he is selling his stuff and not making a profit... well you can figure the rest out. I'm in this business to make a profit and if I can't make a profit, then I won't last and that's obvious.
My products aren't for everyone Mike. They are for the best. They are for the guys who are serious about what they want and are making money in their business. They are also for guys who aren't but are willing to move to the next level in pressure washing and have equipment that's gonna last and work. I'm not a Harbor Freight kinda guy because you get exactly what you pay for. But the prices are great.
Mechanics spend unreasonable amounts of money on their tools and boxes but they want quality. Landscapers invest in some nice equipment for a hefty dollar also. You see, those who know they have to work with the equipment every day and it's their livelyhood, don't hesitate to buy quality. Those hose reels with outlast the trailer they are mounted on. Are they worth $950... absolutely. How do I know... because my customers have told me so and they are selling like hotcakes. Not one of my customers have complained out them. However, they are too expensive for the average joe pressure washer. But the average joe pressure washer usually does that kind of work also. I know, I've been dealing with average joes for years.
If someone pulls into my yard to do work and they are pulling around what looks like garbage, it shows me the pride they have in their work. If the equipment is dirty, not taken care of; pieced together; and of lessor quality, I notice those things and if they won't spend the money back into their equipment that makes them a living, then how good of a job can I expect? Shoddy equipment means shoddy work. This is just from experience. I see it happen all the time. When I was in the pressure washing business, I sold almost 100% of the work I bid on. I also showed them my equipment and explained to them how it all worked. Take a look at what I pull in with to give an estimate compared to what some of the others have... I'm going to get the job, and I've proved it again and again and again.
Competition... bring it on. I know who's sailing my ship and I know exactly where it is going. I have no competition to speak of because there's not another me doing exactly what I am doing. There isn't one set-up out there that I know of that is as nice as what I set up for my customers. I'm also sure my customers will stand behind that statement.
Well enough said about all of this. If your guy ended up hooking up with me, I would consider him very fortunate to have that opportunity. Like I said, I know exactly where this ship is going and anyone who jumps on is just going for the ride.
I had a 40 foot lift here the other day and my 3 year old daughter asked me to take her up in the lift. So as I was getting it ready, I asked her how high she would like me to take her. I said, we could get above a certain tree in the yard. She looked up and said, "No Daddy, I want to touch the clouds." At three years old she's already learned to reach for the sky and aim high. Her name is Hannah.
My products aren't for everyone Mike. They are for the best. They are for the guys who are serious about what they want and are making money in their business. They are also for guys who aren't but are willing to move to the next level in pressure washing and have equipment that's gonna last and work. I'm not a Harbor Freight kinda guy because you get exactly what you pay for. But the prices are great.
Mechanics spend unreasonable amounts of money on their tools and boxes but they want quality. Landscapers invest in some nice equipment for a hefty dollar also. You see, those who know they have to work with the equipment every day and it's their livelyhood, don't hesitate to buy quality. Those hose reels with outlast the trailer they are mounted on. Are they worth $950... absolutely. How do I know... because my customers have told me so and they are selling like hotcakes. Not one of my customers have complained out them. However, they are too expensive for the average joe pressure washer. But the average joe pressure washer usually does that kind of work also. I know, I've been dealing with average joes for years.
If someone pulls into my yard to do work and they are pulling around what looks like garbage, it shows me the pride they have in their work. If the equipment is dirty, not taken care of; pieced together; and of lessor quality, I notice those things and if they won't spend the money back into their equipment that makes them a living, then how good of a job can I expect? Shoddy equipment means shoddy work. This is just from experience. I see it happen all the time. When I was in the pressure washing business, I sold almost 100% of the work I bid on. I also showed them my equipment and explained to them how it all worked. Take a look at what I pull in with to give an estimate compared to what some of the others have... I'm going to get the job, and I've proved it again and again and again.
Competition... bring it on. I know who's sailing my ship and I know exactly where it is going. I have no competition to speak of because there's not another me doing exactly what I am doing. There isn't one set-up out there that I know of that is as nice as what I set up for my customers. I'm also sure my customers will stand behind that statement.
Well enough said about all of this. If your guy ended up hooking up with me, I would consider him very fortunate to have that opportunity. Like I said, I know exactly where this ship is going and anyone who jumps on is just going for the ride.
I had a 40 foot lift here the other day and my 3 year old daughter asked me to take her up in the lift. So as I was getting it ready, I asked her how high she would like me to take her. I said, we could get above a certain tree in the yard. She looked up and said, "No Daddy, I want to touch the clouds." At three years old she's already learned to reach for the sky and aim high. Her name is Hannah.
the_GUNN_man
New member
I bought one of those hose reels. I told Justin I was a little hesitant at first because of the cost. After I used it the first time I couldn't believe how well they worked. Like I said before, it made my hosetract reel look like it came form Big Lots. I know Bryan bought one of Justin's trailers with one of those reels in it. That was Bryan's first ever rig. I told Bryan he doesn't know how to properly appreciate that reels because he never had anything to compare it too. He went straight to the best. Every time I wind up that reel I think to myself, Man I love this reel. It has nice swivels on it and the tensions are nice too. Hey Justin, everyone who sees the welds on it say they did a really good job. I don't know what I would do without that bottom reel. I carry 400' of 3/4" garden hose on there. I have used every bit of that hose on for 5 days in a row. One was on a construction site and the other was to wash a crane that was about 350' form a water source. I don't know too many reels that can fit either 400' of 3/4" or 500 5/8" garden hose on them. I used to carry 3 other of those crappy plastic reels to fit that much hose. This reel has saved so much space. I can't say enough good things about them. I am actually thinking about buying another one in case I build another rig. I am not trying to jinx Justin but I would hate to need another one and find out he got out of the sales business or whatever and not be able to get another. That is how good they are. I know we all have bought things in life that we really liked. Then you go to the store to buy it again and find out they no longer sell it. You think to yourself that you wish you would have bought more when they had them. Well, these reels are the same way. Justin went out and made the life of a pressure washer a lot easier. I know people may disagree with me. All I ask is please don't try and compare those other stackable reels out there to this one. They don't compare. One other good thing about Justin's, I am pretty sure that if you needed it customized to your specs a little he would work with you to get that for you. I know he offers a left and right handed reels. In case you needed it mounted on a certain side. Well, enough jabbering. Out to put that reel to use.
Mike Hughes
Former Board Administrator
I believe they are Hannay Reels that you could still buy even if Justin someday went out of business. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Also, am I missing something, or is Justin's ladder racks aluminium, and Mike's steel?? That's not comparing apples to apples if that's the case.
Also, am I missing something, or is Justin's ladder racks aluminium, and Mike's steel?? That's not comparing apples to apples if that's the case.
Michael Cappa
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Justin
Member
The only thing you're diggin mike is a place to put your head.
You can't buy anything from me... ever. I can do that. Not only because you can't afford it, but because I won't let you. There! End of discussion.
You never did answer my questions though.
Once again, I asked.... how long have you been in this business? How many machines do you or have you owned?
Since you have your foot in your mouth, why don't you tell us all really how much experience you have. I would guess about 6 months by the way you speak on things. Oh, and don't even start insulting my customer's intelligence and burning bread on them. I don't take kindly to that at all.
Anyway, I did not intentionally dig into you and I re-read my post and didn't see where I did. However, if you had a Harbor freight catalog on your desk at the time you read the post, I could see why maybe you called it a dig.
Oh, did I tell you I build the best for the best and I'll keep doing it. That's not a dig either, it's just the confidence I have in what I do.
Have a wonderful day!
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You can't buy anything from me... ever. I can do that. Not only because you can't afford it, but because I won't let you. There! End of discussion.
You never did answer my questions though.
Once again, I asked.... how long have you been in this business? How many machines do you or have you owned?
Since you have your foot in your mouth, why don't you tell us all really how much experience you have. I would guess about 6 months by the way you speak on things. Oh, and don't even start insulting my customer's intelligence and burning bread on them. I don't take kindly to that at all.
Anyway, I did not intentionally dig into you and I re-read my post and didn't see where I did. However, if you had a Harbor freight catalog on your desk at the time you read the post, I could see why maybe you called it a dig.
Oh, did I tell you I build the best for the best and I'll keep doing it.
That's not a dig either, it's just the confidence I have in what I do.Have a wonderful day!
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