Should We Close the UAMCC BBS for Good?

Should the UAMCC bbs be Closed?

  • Yes close it

    Votes: 17 39.5%

  • No keep it Open

    Votes: 15 34.9%

  • I careless

    Votes: 11 25.6%
  • Total voters
    43
Ron Musgraves said:
The UAMCC could be run as the first real Non-profit entity as a national Org. The PWNA I don't think is a non-profit , so in-fact its nothing more than someone's personal business. Thats ok too, they run it well and get people to support it. .
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Ron tell me your not going to start this again? Why is it that someone tells you the truth or even shows you the truth.. You still have to twist it all up. You know Beth is telling you the truth about the PWNA bb and your saying that Michael somehow also forgot that you started the PWNA bb to??

Ron your alienating when you do this... Call Jackie yourself to get the facts about the PWNA status and since you are the Only verifiable PWNA lifetime member( your words...but did you ever think people use the term verifiable mostly for certain type of behavioral pattern?)

Let it go Ron. Stay positive if your going to lead a non profit.. And get your mind off the other orgs.. You know what the PWNA's status is because your verifiable right? Just playin with your verifiable word you use to describe your PWNA membership...

Tell Everett I said hello... I heard he post somewhere but I can't find it..
 
Those are your words John, rest my case


The original Link http://www.propowerwash.com/board/u...alk-PWNA-today&p=183553&viewfull=1#post183553

Thanks Mike for the memories. I enjoyed working with the PWNA bb back then but yes it was bigtime time Consuming. There has to be a better way to make these bb's work in an org...I know the PWNA at one time was paying Jack Phitzer's son to look after the PWNA bb but that didn't work. Its a tough nut to figure out how to utilize an org. bb without all the headaches.

What I recall back then was that Mike Hindeliter and Ron worked on the PWNA bb when it first came to fruition so they were like co Admins. From there Mike H. became the sole admin Then sometime after that Beth Borrego became the lone PWNA admin.
They all did great jobs and the membership escalated to around 475+ members but eventually the bb failed because it was to much work to keep it going without all the crap that infiltrates the bb.

Either way it was mostly fond memories for me and I enjoyed helping out there back then.

I wouldn't mind possibly becoming active again with the PWNA in another year or two because I enjoy doing organization business of course time permitting.
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Mike own forgetting
M.Hinderliter said:
Ron Musgraves said:
It was a long time ago, but I remember being the starting Admin for the PWNA bbs.
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It was a long time ago, no doubt about that. But I believe there is definitely some confusion about who was the Admin. Which I believe is a matter of semantics. Ron, if you are referring to being the Admin on the PWNA forum that was started on PWI then that would be correct, because that forum was created prior to the start up of the PWNA BBS. But as for the PWNA BBS I was the Admin and with support of yourself, Beth, John T, Mike Hughes and other Moderators the BBS became the 1 ranked BBS in the industry in a little over a year. I held the position, and lead the committee, for two years, appointed by Chris Detter during his year a president then by Doc Riesman for the first year of his two year term as president. I then handed it over to Beth Borrego. After that, my activity on the board came to a complete halt as I was totally burnt out. I was contributing no less than 20 hours a week to it. Of course that took a toll on my business and personal life. I still don't like to post that much because I start posting more that I should then find it hard to allot the necessary time for other projects that need to get completed.

I strongly believe the success of the BBS was because of the Rules. The BBS was complemented on numerous times for being the most professional in the industry during that time period. It created an open form to communicate with other members of the association in addition to being a sounding board for nonmembers to learn more about the association. It was due to the openness and willingness to respond to the industry that the BBS had such an impact on the growth of the association.

Anyway, it was a longtime ago. It was a successful venture and I am thankful to everyone that contributed to its success. I do wish it was still around but completely understand why it is not.
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Clean County PW said:
Ron tell me your not going to start this again? Why is it that someone tells you the truth or even shows you the truth.. You still have to twist it all up. You know Beth is telling you the truth about the PWNA bb and your saying that Michael somehow also forgot that you started the PWNA bb to??

Ron your alienating when you do this... Call Jackie yourself to get the facts about the PWNA status and since you are the Only verifiable PWNA lifetime member( your words...but did you ever think people use the term verifiable mostly for certain type of behavioral pattern?)

Let it go Ron. Stay positive if your going to lead a non profit.. And get your mind off the other orgs.. You know what the PWNA's status is because your verifiable right? Just playin with your verifiable word you use to describe your PWNA membership...

Tell Everett I said hello... I heard he post somewhere but I can't find it..
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John, when the PWNA first started you could be certified and not be a member. You can't change any of us who where certified back then. As a matter of fact there's no record because there recording keeping skills where as poor if not worse then the current UAMCC is now.
 
Ron Musgraves said:
John, when the PWNA first started you could be certified and not be a member. You can't change any of us who where certified back then. As a matter of fact there's no record because there recording keeping skills where as poor if not worse then the current UAMCC is now.
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There record keeping has been very good the last bunch of years where the UAMCC was non existent. If you want to read the PWNA's minutes go to there blog. OF a matter of fact you can find the financials of the non profit PWNA are right there to. Ron jealousy will get you know where.. I Remember posting that you helped out with the PWNA bb only because you kept calling here asking me to and I couldn't remember what is was you did. You can't get the credit for everything Ron. You can try but we know what you did... Leave the PWNA out of it.

Now start behaving like a president and stop making up stories and pointing fingers..
 
Clean County PW said:
Ron tell me your not going to start this again? Why is it that someone tells you the truth or even shows you the truth.. You still have to twist it all up. You know Beth is telling you the truth about the PWNA bb and your saying that Michael somehow also forgot that you started the PWNA bb to??

Ron your alienating when you do this... Call Jackie yourself to get the facts about the PWNA status and since you are the Only verifiable PWNA lifetime member( your words...but did you ever think people use the term verifiable mostly for certain type of behavioral pattern?)

Let it go Ron. Stay positive if your going to lead a non profit.. And get your mind off the other orgs.. You know what the PWNA's status is because your verifiable right? Just playin with your verifiable word you use to describe your PWNA membership...

Tell Everett I said hello... I heard he post somewhere but I can't find it..
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Call Jackie???? LOL !!!!!!! Hey i did call her to get some FACTS about the PWNA and she DIDN`T KNOW ANYTHING!!!!!! Hell i`m still waiting for someone on their BOD to call me to give me some facts... BUT the fact is they really don`t want anyone to know!!!

OK so i`m really not waiting!!! I just thought that was really FUNNY call Jackie....... LOL!!!!!!!!!!
 
John ignore your own post , no ones confused about history.

I careless about what's happened in the past. But I'm not going to repeat it..

I stated facts , you disputed them. I simply posted your own words. You said mike supposedly forgot I simply posted his words.

What I thinks funny is people has what's called selective memory.

End of subject John , this dead horse is beat.


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Ron Musgraves said:
John ignore your own post , no ones confused about history.

I careless about what's happened in the past. But I'm not going to repeat it..

I stated facts , you disputed them. I simply posted your own words. You said mike supposedly forgot I simply posted his words.

What I thinks funny is people has what's called selective memory.

End of subject John , this dead horse is beat.


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Yea Ron you don't want to go there. You forget I was in there and your membership was delinquent for years. There's a post on one of these boards that you said you finally joined the PWNA and that was in 2001. We talked about that the other day and your response was because you weren't allowed to tell about your "Verifiable lifetime membership"

That post above where I said you helped put with the PWNA bb I remember that one clearly. You only called me about 10 times to say you did that and I finally relented and said yea whatever.. I'll do it if it means that much to you because no one cares.

Ron you hate the PWNA and you hated the UAMCC. You were determined to pit them against each other and you did a nice Job causing members to quit both.

Start your own org.. Your way to much baggage for a non profit.
 
Here Ron you want facts.. The PWNA Vendor of the year award winner---RON MUSGRAVES. What position are you Running for again in the UAMCC and what membership was bought for you ? Hey what did you do again with the UAMCC plaque that you wanted so badly and I got it for you and you told me to send it to your "Vendor partner"
which I did? And where did you say it ended up? Wasn't it the garbage?

Ron your killing yourself..

If I'm starting to think your again trying to kill the UAMCC it's has to be in other people's minds again. Leave the PWNA out.. They been in business for 20 yrs.. You will not build up the UAMCC with your negative attitude.... What your doing is bringing up all kinds of red flags for a non profit in yourself..

Stay focused... And build the UAMCC before you Red flag yourself right out of That org... Unless that's what your tying to do... I hope not.. I already paid for my membership with your promise to build them and to not start trouble again with twisted stuff on other orgs....
Do your job...hahaha I get to say that because I'm a member there..

To keep this fair Ron for you..... No one that care about these orgs IMHO wants to hear your negative stuff.. The UAMCC side you have us believing that you care and your not going to try and take credit for the PWNA Successes and then blame everyone in there for what you perceived to be failures.. That's nothing but me me me and then negative garbage.....

Make yourself The leader that cares By doing what you said you would with the UAMCC.. You have a big enough personality to do it. No one cares about the knock downs stuff about orgs except people who despise org's. They love it.

Also Ron you won't do this but you should call Beth and apologize because you questioned here volunteering efforts. This is how you win people over.. Beth has always been off the charts when it comes to helping others. You want these type people to support you...so grow some nuts and call her and for once do it where it's not about you. That's how you start building bridges instead of what your starting to do again which is tear them down..

Man for all the time in the world I now have...this is taking to much time.

Go Ronny Go---do the right thing.
 
Ron Musgraves said:
Your still beating a dead horse!! Beat beat beat 


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agreed. Stop beating the dead horse.......and dont start a new horse beating now on volunteers...
change subject question- are you going to Nola?
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Happy Holidays! Everyone got all their shopping and wrapping done?
 
I feel this is something that should be posted in the contractor section of the UAMCC BBs. Posting it here is another thread for people to bash it.

Let Ron and the new BOD get in there and do their thing and more people will start posting.

I do understand what your saying and I hope you know I do value your opinion.
 
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