New Cleaning Manual -- Photos Needed
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mbryan
New member
Lemme try this again. These are the full size images.
This is a great tool because it costs about $20 to make, and you can add any scraper to it from a 6" all the way down to a 1". It kills chinese ducts because you can add more leverage to the scraper with just a movement of the rod. We have done 25' lateral ducts with this tool when nothing else would work.
This is a great tool because it costs about $20 to make, and you can add any scraper to it from a 6" all the way down to a 1". It kills chinese ducts because you can add more leverage to the scraper with just a movement of the rod. We have done 25' lateral ducts with this tool when nothing else would work.
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HotShot_Anthony
Greaser of the Year
no, I can't make them any bigger, but I just thought it was Flocked up...
Send them to me and I'll post them...or just use tinypic
Send them to me and I'll post them...or just use tinypic
mbryan
New member
Forget it. If I have to do that every time I want to post something here it's not worth it.
Change my avatar, fine. Mess with my controls, ok. Turn off my PM's, whatever. But make it so I can't post pictures, and that means WAR!!!!
I guess someone is playing a joke on me. Well as Carl Spackler said, I guess the kidding around is pretty much over.
If anyone wants the full size pics and plans to make the scraper, you can get them at GP.
BUNN
Member
You aren't suggesting one of those organizations that goes through all the hassle of ensuring that their members are actually cleaning to code, are you? Why would Phil want to associate himself with an organization that demands quality from their members?
statewidehoodcleanin
New member
BUNN
Member
I don't know what prevents some people from being a part of TGP.
Maybe it's the "Relentless Pursuit of Perfection", maybe it's "Our goal is to have every kitchen exhaust system in the United States cleaned to bare metal", maybe it's the fact that "The integrity of our members is first and foremost", maybe it's the fact that "Shoddy workmanship simply will not be tolerated", who knows?
David Saulque
Senior Moderator
Come on guys, all organization strive to an ethic code – to say one organization is better or worse is like saying my dog is smarter than yours. It is simply a no win situation – this bickering is simply not doing anyone any good. You guys are decent to me and likewise I am to you. If you were to ask me right out why I am not with the Grease Police – it is simply I do not like the name. Being a retired cop I find the name on the edge and what implies has no legal standing, and some people could imply authority – where there is absolutely none. That is simply my opinion and I am not the only one that thinks that.
David Saulque
Senior Moderator
Chris did you read my post - Yes that is a very good name-A name is a flag-it stands for issues and ethics. All of us want our jobs to be to "bare metal", it not just a Grease Police thing - it's all of us. In fact the NFPA comettee has 3 IKECA members that wrote the code along with Phil - does the Grease Police set on NFPA96 meetings & write the code?
BUNN
Member
Yes, I read your post, and yes there are NFPA members at TGP.
HotShot_Anthony
Greaser of the Year
Dave, I have the upmost respect for you and I value your opinion. But I think you are wrong on this. The name is catchy and that's it. We have a member of the GP that IS a cop and he has absolutely no problem with it. I understand where you are coming from and what you are saying though.
The only people that we plan on policing is our members. We all believe in holding our members accountable. For the betterment of the industry.
Unlike IKECA that just had a vote to NOT HOLD THEIR MEMBERS ACCOUNTABLE. We just had a pretty good meeting with another organization (I'm not sure if I should mention their name because I didn't get permission) but they are putting some plans into place that would hold their members accountable. And, to go through their training pictures will have to be submitted. It's a start.
As far as the NFPA being populated by IKECA members...well, I'll hold my tongue a little bit on that one, but maybe this is why the new codes are being watered down. They use to say BARE METAL. I like that.
The only people that we plan on policing is our members. We all believe in holding our members accountable. For the betterment of the industry.
Unlike IKECA that just had a vote to NOT HOLD THEIR MEMBERS ACCOUNTABLE. We just had a pretty good meeting with another organization (I'm not sure if I should mention their name because I didn't get permission) but they are putting some plans into place that would hold their members accountable. And, to go through their training pictures will have to be submitted. It's a start.
As far as the NFPA being populated by IKECA members...well, I'll hold my tongue a little bit on that one, but maybe this is why the new codes are being watered down. They use to say BARE METAL. I like that.
statewidehoodcleanin
New member
i agree with what he said..
David Saulque
Senior Moderator
NFPA has a Technical Committee that works and prepares the issue. IKECA has several members on that Committee along with Phil and others. Anyone can join but you must be selected by NFPA to set on the Committee.
As to IKECA not holding it’s members accountable – I have no idea where that came from.
As to the name Grease Police – like I said it is my opinion along with others – just the way I think.
As to IKECA not holding it’s members accountable – I have no idea where that came from.
As to the name Grease Police – like I said it is my opinion along with others – just the way I think.
BUNN
Member
How does IKECA hold it's members accountable? (This is a serious question.) What has to happen for IKECA to revoke a member's certification? IMO, there should be a written "code of ethics" by which an "association's" members are to abide, and when evidence is shown that a member is not adhering to the "code of ethics" there should be disciplinary action taken, including but not limited to the revoking of one's certification. (I am not implying that if Joe Blow calls IKECA and says, "XYZ Exhaust Cleaning did a bad job", that IKECA should revoke XYZ's certification.)
FWIW, I applaud the efforts of the CHDCA, IKECA, & PAC to educate exhaust cleaners. I believe that is a step in the right direction for the KEC industry. I like the fact that IKECA urges it's members to further their knowledge of the industry, by attending meetings, seminars, etc. What I feel certification is currently lacking is accountability. What better way to demonstrate the value of hiring a certified KEC company is there, than by letting the food service industry know that hiring "certified" KEC companies not only implies quality service but it ensures it? Simply administering a test of one's KEC knowledge and handing them a certificate is NOT solving the issues the KEC industry is and has been facing. If it were, there would not be so many exhaust system fires being reported...at least that were being serviced by certified KEC companies.
Sorry for my rant, but this is an issue I take very seriously.
Everybody is entitled to their own opinion, right?
David Saulque
Senior Moderator
You should take the time to read the Bylaws and the Ethics and Standards of IKECA – not sure about other groups – you should read IKECA Bylaws.