Look what it Took to Make E-clean today, this is my rewards after 30 years

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Kristopher Pettitt said:
Yes I was in Business in 2012. Igor is in San Diego which San Bernardino is not apart of. So what if any contractors did you contact when coming to San Bernardino? Or did you think because it was okay to come to San diego then it was okay to come to San Bernardino?
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Was I able to provide you with information you were looking for regarding runoff?
 
Tony Shelton said:
How do you know the facts? Have you seen them in writing? lol.

You are not keeping up. Ron apologized. Something a real man knows how to do.

Where are men on the other side who hate Ron so much?

I know, they are making gay porn photoshops.
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Yet he still even now continues to lie saying that he did his part which we all know was not the case.
 
Tony Shelton said:
How do you know the facts? Have you seen them in writing? lol.

You are not keeping up. Ron apologized. Something a real man knows how to do.

Where are men on the other side who hate Ron so much?

I know, they are making gay porn photoshops.
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They're all there in Allison's post. Text messages, Facebook post, and emails. Ron himself has said that these forms of communication are not good for business contracts, which is a no brainer.

An apology is worthless if you resort to the same lie telling that you needed to apologize for in the first place.
 
Tony Shelton said:
Was I able to provide you with information you were looking for regarding runoff?
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Yes you did, and you still try to hold that over my head. But others should know that I ONLY requested a starting point to where to find my local BMP's. I never asked for a full documented letter and your input of that document because I knew you would use that as leverage against me as you are attempting to do now. The truth is that I didn't want you to and even requested over our phone call that you didn't, yet you insisted. I personally feel that the only reason you did that was to create leverage against me and I can tell you that I won't stand for such behavior.
 
Here, I'm going to try to simplify this to a grade level that is easy to understand.


Dick and Jane make an agreement to trade crayons so they have different colors, but the same amount when they are done.

Jane says, "Cool, I like it, let's write this all down".

Meanwhile Dick is excited about trading crayons and also distracted by the Mustang matchbox car in his other hand.

So he gives Jane 5 crayons.

Jane knows he is distracted so she just sits there.

Dick gives her 5 more crayons.

Jane gives him one.

Dick, still distracted by the car and the dog licking his ear gives her 5 more.

Jane gives him two.

Dick gives her five more figuring they will settle up later because the deal said "they would have the same amount then they are done".

Jane gives him one again.

Dick finally gets a moment to concentrate and he says "Hey, you never held up your end of the bargain, where are my crayons?"

He now realizes Jane has given Jan all twenty of his crayons and only got 4.

So he says "Hey, that's not fair, we had an agreement and now you have 36 crayons and I only have 4"

Jane says "I don't want to play anymore. You didn't write it down anyway so none of the crayons count. And stop bullying me!!!!!!"

To make it worse Jane takes all her crayons and goes and tells all her friends that Dick is a liar and he can't be trusted because he lied about her not holding up her end of the bargain.


Lots of her friends throw rocks at Dick and call him a liar. All he can do is say "I didn't do anything wrong" as he looks at the four crayons left in his hand.

In the corner there is an intelligent little boy with the glasses who is simply saying "But, Jane, you have all the crayons".


I'm that little boy.



Kristopher and Micah, I will have to get my grandson Carlos to try to write it up if that's not simple enough for you.
 
Kristopher Pettitt said:
Yes you did, and you still try to hold that over my head. But others should know that I ONLY requested a starting point to where to find my local BMP's. I never asked for a full documented letter and your input of that document because I knew you would use that as leverage against me as you are attempting to do now. The truth is that I didn't want you to and even requested over our phone call that you didn't, yet you insisted. I personally feel that the only reason you did that was to create leverage against me and I can tell you that I won't stand for such behavior.
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Yet the information was there when you needed it.

6000 miles of driving was worth it then.

You're welcome.
 
Tony Shelton said:
Here, I'm going to try to simplify this to a grade level that is easy to understand.


Dick and Jane make an agreement to trade crayons so they have different colors, but the same amount when they are done.

Jane says, "Cool, I like it, let's write this all down".

Meanwhile Dick is excited about trading crayons and also distracted by the Mustang matchbox car in his other hand.

So he gives Jane 5 crayons.

Jane knows he is distracted so she just sits there.

Dick gives her 5 more crayons.

Jane gives him one.

Dick, still distracted by the car and the dog licking his ear gives her 5 more.

Jane gives him two.

Dick gives her five more figuring they will settle up later because the deal said "they would have the same amount then they are done".

Jane gives him one again.

Dick finally gets a moment to concentrate and he says "Hey, you never held up your end of the bargain, where are my crayons?"

He now realizes Jane has given Jan all twenty of his crayons and only got 4.

So he says "Hey, that's not fair, we had an agreement and now you have 36 crayons and I only have 4"

Jane says "I don't want to play anymore. You didn't write it down anyway so none of the crayons count. And stop bullying me!!!!!!"

To make it worse Jane takes all her crayons and goes and tells all her friends that Dick is a liar and he can't be trusted because he lied about her not holding up her end of the bargain.


Lots of her friends throw rocks at Dick and call him a liar. All he can do is say "I didn't do anything wrong" as he looks at the four crayons left in his hand.

In the corner there is an intelligent little boy with the glasses who is simply saying "But, Jane, you have all the crayons".


I'm that little boy.



Kristopher and Micah, I will have to get my grandson Carlos to try to write it up if that's not simple enough for you.
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You're over complicating it, Tony.

Ron agreed to draft a contract. He did not. He said he did, that was a lie.

It's that simple. No crayon analogy needed.
 
michaelmole said:
I think this could go a long way. Kris, you should start a petition among the UAMCC members calling for Ron and Tony's immediate resignation.
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On what grounds? On a few people who have done un-speakable things who have lied about my character because they have been proven liars over and over.

I think you need to read the thread again!




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EcoClean said:
You're over complicating it, Tony.

Ron agreed to draft a contract. He did not. He said he did, that was a lie.

It's that simple. No crayon analogy needed.
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Ill have to look, I believe I did draft it.

Regardless of that no biggie.

Like I said thank goodness I didn't sign it.


Oct event San Diego free free text me for more details !!
 
Ron Musgraves said:
On what grounds? On a few people who have done un-speakable things who have lied about my character because they have been proven liars over and over.

I think you need to read the thread again!

Oct event San Diego free free text me for more details !!
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How about we start with not following the code of ethics given to you as President?

UAMCC Code of Ethics​
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All members shall possess qualities of good character and conduct themselves to a high standard of business ethics. Such firms and their representatives shall be required to uphold and promote the aims and goals of the Association, its Bylaws, and other governing documents.​
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Tony Shelton said:
Here, I'm going to try to simplify this to a grade level that is easy to understand.


Dick and Jane make an agreement to trade crayons so they have different colors, but the same amount when they are done.

Jane says, "Cool, I like it, let's write this all down".

Meanwhile Dick is excited about trading crayons and also distracted by the Mustang matchbox car in his other hand.

So he gives Jane 5 crayons.

Jane knows he is distracted so she just sits there.

Dick gives her 5 more crayons.

Jane gives him one.

Dick, still distracted by the car and the dog licking his ear gives her 5 more.

Jane gives him two.

Dick gives her five more figuring they will settle up later because the deal said "they would have the same amount then they are done".

Jane gives him one again.

Dick finally gets a moment to concentrate and he says "Hey, you never held up your end of the bargain, where are my crayons?"

He now realizes Jane has given Jan all twenty of his crayons and only got 4.

So he says "Hey, that's not fair, we had an agreement and now you have 36 crayons and I only have 4"

Jane says "I don't want to play anymore. You didn't write it down anyway so none of the crayons count. And stop bullying me!!!!!!"

To make it worse Jane takes all her crayons and goes and tells all her friends that Dick is a liar and he can't be trusted because he lied about her not holding up her end of the bargain.


Lots of her friends throw rocks at Dick and call him a liar. All he can do is say "I didn't do anything wrong" as he looks at the four crayons left in his hand.

In the corner there is an intelligent little boy with the glasses who is simply saying "But, Jane, you have all the crayons".


I'm that little boy.



Kristopher and Micah, I will have to get my grandson Carlos to try to write it up if that's not simple enough for you.
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What I got out of this is that Tony thinks Ron is a dick.
 
Kristopher Pettitt said:
No, actually I submitted a letter to Doug Rucker days before speaking with Ron asking about coming back here. So that wasn't why I joined. Like I said didn't matter the result weather I got in or not.
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You submitted a letter to me??? How and When???
 
michaelmole said:
they are all too beat down by Ron and his nincompoops to step up and play the man in this. What do you need someone "stronger" for? Someone needs to circulate a petition to the members of the UAMCC, because Ron's nonsense needs to be stopped from the top, if he won't stop on his own. You should do it.
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Beat down by Ron???? LOL...Your posts are hilarious
 
michaelmole said:
What I got out of this is that Tony thinks Ron is a dick.
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Yeah that's likely accurate.

I trusted someone and learn a lesson at my age.

Nothing amazes me anymore.

So what's your reason your here? They where able to get you to come?

Tell us


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Ron Musgraves said:
Micah truth is you hate me?

Lets list the reasons !!

You start

If you fail to say then everyone has the answer.

I don't hate you because I really don't know you.


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I don't hate you.

I don't trust you. This latest situation is just the newest example of your character. I don't care for liars.
 
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