is it just me ...

Ron Musgraves said:
No crying here, just stating the facts. I think the thread is good, some here have said why another magazine for contractors. Reality is we never had one, some people now are clear that CTM doesnt represent our segment of the industry at all.

Allison will represent the industry and Mike I would use her media to do so if I where you. Your good at that aspect of the business, this is and opourtunity to use the powers in your favor.

Organization and structure in our industry is better than not having it.
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There have been a couple of magazines over the years designed for contractors. The first of course, was "Pressure Concepts" and the other was "Blast Master". The official stories are that Pressure Concepts was folded into Cleaner Times, because it really was not financially viable. Blast Master folded due to the personal problems of the publisher, after just a couple of issues, and Envirospec signing a deal to be the sole advertiser.

Just setting the record straight, according to my memory.
 
Phillip, you make some good points. It's just surpising to me that simple things like exhaust pre-heat and clutch drives miraculously start appearing when the economy is in the dump.I guess there's no incentive to innovate when money is being made hand over fist.
 
DJ Carroll said:
Or does the new move cleaner times is making sound like its giving us the royal bend over when it comes to industrial cleaning?

One of the most profitable areas of my business is now in jeopardy!
Competition is bad enough now I'm gonna have to fight with the purchasing dept. Getting a magazine that tells them to buy direct from the manufacturer?!?! WTF!

They even quoted one manufacturer saying "the nice thing about selling to the industrial market is that it is quality driven more than price"
AWESOME! So the one place I can pitch quality over price the manufacturer is gonna come in and compete against me!

The thing that really get my blood boiling is I have a cousin that sells for a large industrial supplier. He calls me up and ask what's a good brand of pressure washer. I ask why? He tells me a power plant is looking for a cold water 6 gal per min 2500 psi pwer to use at the plant. I was like dude they can't clean anything with that. Long story short he sells them this machine for double what I could buy the same brand 8 gpm hot water for!!!!!!!

This is the kinda BS that makes me think more and more everyday that what I do is a straight up joke
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How do you feel today ???
 
DJ Carroll said:
Like a million bucks! Oh wait that's everyday lol


I don't feel any different.
Although we did pick up a new industrial account today that I have been trying to land for over two years now ... CHA CHING!!!!!!
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It doesnt really Matter who or what is with us or agaist us. Keep on tracking and sales will happen.
 
Ron Musgraves said:
Telling the truth, thats odd in this business. Thanks for the insight if what really goes on.

Cleanertimes is no sectret, its not a contractors magazine. Call and ask they will tell you that they are a distributor magazine manufacture magazine.

The american manufacturing is suffering, Karcher will likely destroy many of them over the next few years.

Landa's and other popular brands have been attempted to be built elsewhere. Karcher is muti billion dollar company and can swallow five of our largest anytime they want to write a check.

There vary existance is on ICE!!!

Some here may not think so but I know that certain manufactures are hurting.

Mitghty M is making a play twords industrial market and Cleanertimes in my opionion is following the lead of its customers. Not a bad idea but they dis-credit the revenue stream of the contract cleaner.

WHY?

This is why I get frustrated with this entire POST!!!!!!! WE ARE NOT ORGANIZED OURSELVES AND TRULY HAVE NO VOICE!!!!!!!!!!!!
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AMEN BROTHER!

The small powerwashing contractor wears enough hats without having to have a voice beyond themselves. However when someone steps forward to help the industry they generally get the crap smacked out of them by many of the people they are trying to help.

On another board I saw someone compare the power washing industry to the landscaping industry. Heck we couldnt even stand in their shadow. We arent even that organized.

AC
 
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DJ Carroll said:
Or does the new move cleaner times is making sound like its giving us the royal bend over when it comes to industrial cleaning?

One of the most profitable areas of my business is now in jeopardy!
Competition is bad enough now I'm gonna have to fight with the purchasing dept. Getting a magazine that tells them to buy direct from the manufacturer?!?! WTF!

They even quoted one manufacturer saying "the nice thing about selling to the industrial market is that it is quality driven more than price"
AWESOME! So the one place I can pitch quality over price the manufacturer is gonna come in and compete against me!

The thing that really get my blood boiling is I have a cousin that sells for a large industrial supplier. He calls me up and ask what's a good brand of pressure washer. I ask why? He tells me a power plant is looking for a cold water 6 gal per min 2500 psi pwer to use at the plant. I was like dude they can't clean anything with that. Long story short he sells them this machine for double what I could buy the same brand 8 gpm hot water for!!!!!!!

This is the kinda BS that makes me think more and more everyday that what I do is a straight up joke
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