I'll be in Huntsville for Workshop

DJ Carroll said:
Tony my testosterone is just fine! I don't owe it to anyone but for the sake of keeping people from bad mouthing my name - I new nothing of this and could careless who is in my audience. 1 person or 400 its will be an awesome eye opening experience for the attendees of my seminar.

PS - I will be there with bright shiny nails!
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We are setting up Free Mani & Pedi Stations at the entrance, we look forward to seeing you. YES THEY will be FREE
 
Thanks Doug, its appreciated Brother
Doug Rucker said:
I did speak with Jeremy yesterday by phone. He promptly called me back and on a Sunday too and I appreciate him doing that. Jeremy did tell me that there are two speakers that have flat out said that if Ron is allowed to attend and be in the room, they will not speak. Apparently Jeremy was informed of this some time ago but chose not to inform Ron until and if Ron actually tried to register for the event. Jeremy felt there was no need to bring it up to Ron in case Ron never registered. Jeremy feels he's in between a Rock and a Hard place and is just trying to save his event and is making a business decision. The problem, as I see it, is that the tail is wagging the dog here, and the speakers should have been told when they said this they can't pick and choose their audience and maybe speakers with a little more confidence should of been chosen but a little late for that now. Or it should have been left a CLOSED by INVITATION only event.

I personally don't think that this is at all a speaker issue. This is my opinion, and we all know about opinions but I thinks it's more a sponsorship issue and the sponsor, with his history with Ron made this decision, unfortunately their leaving poor Jeremy out to hang, and he his in a position that he can not allow his event to go south at this point. This is what happens when people plan events that have no experience at doing it. The problem I have with it is they knew long ago they would never allow Ron to register, and could have prevented all this at the beginning, yet they use PWI, and Ron posting and promoting it on all the Facebook sites to gain attendees. I too wish either the two speakers would stand up and speak for themselves or all of them admit they never requested this. But it's not going to happen.

I will say this, I made a choice a couple years ago, and that was against the advice of some on "the other side", I was told not to be friends with Ron, that he is nothing but a liar, is only after my money, (that was a funny one there cause I have none) and that every relationship he has ends badly after a year. Well 2 years to 2 1/2 years later, Ron has become like a Big Brother to me, one of my best friends, and I am not talking just industry wise I am talking LIFE wise. In the short time I have known him, he has changed the way I look at and operate my business, he has helped me to DOUBLE my business and income, (even though you know nothing about the residential business...LOL) There has never been a time that he has lied to me,or that I have seen him lie to anyone. There are things I have seen him do to HELP people that would blow your mind, yet if I mention it, it could end our friendship as he will not allow me too. There are things I see people do to him and say about him and his family that would send an ordinary man into a permanent state of depression, yet it rolls off his back and he just continues to help THEM.

Ron, I have said it before and I will say it again. I am honored to serve by your side as your Vice President of the UAMCC. I am honored everytime you take the time to give me advice to help me as a business man and as a person. But most of all I am proud and honored to call you FRIEND. I will ALWAYS be on your side brother.
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Larry Millette said:
I normally stay out of all the "Drama Mama" threads but I just wanted to say ( as I too am a close friend of Rons ) that I could not have said it any better than what Doug Rucker just did. Nice job Doug!
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Larry your texts Made me Laugh, glad your obviously feeling better.
 
I still wanna know who the speakers are so I can make sure I never support anything they do in the future

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Very nice way to put everything Doug!

Tony,
I was only saying that the people saying these things should call Ron and talk about it and get everything they can worked out (if possible) because I know they will not post on the forum.

Out of all the people that have paid for the event, please show your support that you would like Ron to attend! If you have never been to a NCE Event with Ron then you have MISSED OUT BIG TIME!!
 
I heart Ron... lol!

The online and offline pressure washing world is nuts!! I've said it before and will say it again, I consider Ron a friend and will forever be grateful for the snippets of advice and guidance that started at Kory's roundtable in Lakeland back in 2008 (I think it was 2008?!). A couple of times when he was in FL visiting family and on business he made a point to come across to have breakfast and lunch, just to see how things were going and offer some advice on going after the commercial customers that I had identified as my target. To me, that tells me all I need to know about the guy's character.... has there been times where I perhaps would have handled things differently in some of the conflicts he has been involved in on here, yes. But, rightly or wrongly, I try to judge people from my experiences with them - I know a lot of people don't agree with that sentiment, but it has worked well for me and my family to this point.

From then on, although sporadic, Ron has called to offer new ideas, approaches and shared success stories. To be honest, it has been pretty one-way from Ron to me and never once have I been made to feel like I owed him anything.

It's a shame that crap like this is going down - as usual, I do not know the finer details of everything going on or that has gone on in the past. I don't care to get involved in the backroom, good 'ol boy murmurings that have been apparent since I got involved in the online BBS world.

Ron, keep on keeping on buddy!
 
Steven Button said:
I heart Ron... lol!

The online and offline pressure washing world is nuts!! I've said it before and will say it again, I consider Ron a friend and will forever be grateful for the snippets of advice and guidance that started at Kory's roundtable in Lakeland back in 2008 (I think it was 2008?!). A couple of times when he was in FL visiting family and on business he made a point to come across to have breakfast and lunch, just to see how things were going and offer some advice on going after the commercial customers that I had identified as my target. To me, that tells me all I need to know about the guy's character.... has there been times where I perhaps would have handled things differently in some of the conflicts he has been involved in on here, yes. But, rightly or wrongly, I try to judge people from my experiences with them - I know a lot of people don't agree with that sentiment, but it has worked well for me and my family to this point.

From then on, although sporadic, Ron has called to offer new ideas, approaches and shared success stories. To be honest, it has been pretty one-way from Ron to me and never once have I been made to feel like I owed him anything.

It's a shame that crap like this is going down - as usual, I do not know the finer details of everything going on or that has gone on in the past. I don't care to get involved in the backroom, good 'ol boy murmurings that have been apparent since I got involved in the online BBS world.

Ron, keep on keeping on buddy!
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Hey Steve-did you ever notice that in person non of the net garbage really exist? I am a supporter of the net because I have to be but it does "Dummy down" relationships. People say anything on the net because there is pretty much Zero repercussions.

Years ago I was flicking around the TV channels and I found a channel that was like a boring Gov't/political channel. It's that channel where senators etc. Talk while in session.(The Senator who I know here actually talked 26hrs straight on a filibuster which makes it the second longest continous political talking in our history Zzzzzzzzzz's..lol)

Anyway I found an English Parliment recorded session. There was no holds barred. You had something to say..you said it. If you didn't you kept your mouth shut because at any moment you could be hammered with facts that disputes myth if one was talking about things but had nothing to back it up. No this has nothing to do with religion or theories etc but had everything to do with hammering things out to get things done.

Today we have the net..... But experience tells me that nothing really gets done unless people go out there and do it. Talk is cheap. Actions are king. Doing it is King.

That aside the net is never going away. So because sometimes "Reality bites" I support interacting with the net but I also think it's the lowest form of communication that's accepted and it also has the "Highest" form to get your message out to the masses and it's here to stay and like you, I try to stay out of the majority of the back room garbage because it spurns negativity and kills potential progress almost all of the time.
 
Clean County PW said:
Hey Steve-did you ever notice that in person non of the net garbage really exist? I am a supporter of the net because I have to be but it does "Dummy down" relationships. People say anything on the net because there is pretty much Zero repercussions.

Years ago I was flicking around the TV channels and I found a channel that was like a boring Gov't/political channel. It's that channel where senators etc. Talk while in session.(The Senator who I know here actually talked 26hrs straight on a filibuster which makes it the second longest continous political talking in our history Zzzzzzzzzz's..lol)

Anyway I found an English Parliment recorded session. There was no holds barred. You had something to say..you said it. If you didn't you kept your mouth shut because at any moment you could be hammered with facts that disputes myth if one was talking about things but had nothing to back it up. No this has nothing to do with religion or theories etc but had everything to do with hammering things out to get things done.

Today we have the net..... But experience tells me that nothing really gets done unless people go out there and do it. Talk is cheap. Actions are king. Doing it is King.

That aside the net is never going away. So because sometimes "Reality bites" I support interacting with the net but I also think it's the lowest form of communication that's accepted and it also has the "Highest" form to get your message out to the masses and it's here to stay and like you, I try to stay out of the majority of the back room garbage because it spurns negativity and kills potential progress almost all of the time.
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Yes John that's why we are going positive as was originally invited.

Will have fun and meet and greet. No worry about the negative cloud around anyone, will make our own sunshine.


Text me anytime for question 480-522-5227
 
Ron and I are in the same area. We even have mutual friends that we met independently. I will say the same thing about Ron, that I said to his face. He is fat, loud, abrasive and annoying. He is also a very good friend, and we have often shared parts that one or the other of us did not have. If I need a pump, I can call Ron. If Ron needs a pump, he calls me. Nothing in writing, and we have never failed each other on getting it back, and usually within a week. We have also traded other parts, and information about a potential customer. That being said, our markets are different. There was one time though, that I picked up an account that he had been servicing. It was not because he was doing bad work, but because a restaurant janitorial company got the service. The only reason that I would have known it was one of Ron's accounts, is because I was cleaning and his guys pulled up to do the service. They about died when I called Ron before they could call him to tell him what happened. Funny thing, he wasn't even mad. He just gave me some tips and tricks to get the job done easier and more profitably.
Yep, from my experience, he is someone to be feared...well, maybe not.
 
Scott Stone said:
Ron and I are in the same area. We even have mutual friends that we met independently. I will say the same thing about Ron, that I said to his face. He is fat, loud, abrasive and annoying. He is also a very good friend, and we have often shared parts that one or the other of us did not have. If I need a pump, I can call Ron. If Ron needs a pump, he calls me. Nothing in writing, and we have never failed each other on getting it back, and usually within a week. We have also traded other parts, and information about a potential customer. That being said, our markets are different. There was one time though, that I picked up an account that he had been servicing. It was not because he was doing bad work, but because a restaurant janitorial company got the service. The only reason that I would have known it was one of Ron's accounts, is because I was cleaning and his guys pulled up to do the service. They about died when I called Ron before they could call him to tell him what happened. Funny thing, he wasn't even mad. He just gave me some tips and tricks to get the job done easier and more profitably.
Yep, from my experience, he is someone to be feared...well, maybe not.
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That really shows a lot about Ron, thanks for sharing with us
 
I am new. I have not been around long enough to know Ron personaly nor have I never met him in passing.

Sometimes I need help ( ok more often than not ), and I need to put my trust somewhere. For the last 6 months I have put my trust in you guys here. This entire bulliten board has been a saviour for me.

I cannot get enough of Tony's no nonesense, get straight to the point, no b.s posts. thought I may not agree with everything he says it is because of those traits he is someone that i will trust.

Ron, I never met ya. but feel that i should as soon as possible. I believe that you are a person of great knowledge and an industry giant. You seem larger than life and willing to whats best for YOUR industry. For me there is no sides, I will continue to listen to you and I will try to learn from you. you will always COMMAND my respect

Everyone on this board has told me to call them. Thats awesome.
 
Ron if we ever figure out what speakers are too pussified to be in the same room as someone they dislike, I say we skip those sessions and have a hang out at the hotel. Ron, Doug, myself and anyone else will have a great time without giving any justice to some speakers that honestly we probably would be better off if they didn't attend.
 
We're with you Ron!!!!!


Stay positive buddy!!!!
 
DJ Carroll said:
Tony my testosterone is just fine! I don't owe it to anyone but for the sake of keeping people from bad mouthing my name - I new nothing of this and could careless who is in my audience. 1 person or 400 its will be an awesome eye opening experience for the attendees of my seminar.

PS - I will be there with bright shiny nails!
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Thanks for coming thru on this one DJ!!
 
Well said by Rucker!!



Doug Rucker said:
I did speak with Jeremy yesterday by phone. He promptly called me back and on a Sunday too and I appreciate him doing that. Jeremy did tell me that there are two speakers that have flat out said that if Ron is allowed to attend and be in the room, they will not speak. Apparently Jeremy was informed of this some time ago but chose not to inform Ron until and if Ron actually tried to register for the event. Jeremy felt there was no need to bring it up to Ron in case Ron never registered. Jeremy feels he's in between a Rock and a Hard place and is just trying to save his event and is making a business decision. The problem, as I see it, is that the tail is wagging the dog here, and the speakers should have been told when they said this they can't pick and choose their audience and maybe speakers with a little more confidence should of been chosen but a little late for that now. Or it should have been left a CLOSED by INVITATION only event.

I personally don't think that this is at all a speaker issue. This is my opinion, and we all know about opinions but I thinks it's more a sponsorship issue and the sponsor, with his history with Ron made this decision, unfortunately their leaving poor Jeremy out to hang, and he his in a position that he can not allow his event to go south at this point. This is what happens when people plan events that have no experience at doing it. The problem I have with it is they knew long ago they would never allow Ron to register, and could have prevented all this at the beginning, yet they use PWI, and Ron posting and promoting it on all the Facebook sites to gain attendees. I too wish either the two speakers would stand up and speak for themselves or all of them admit they never requested this. But it's not going to happen.

I will say this, I made a choice a couple years ago, and that was against the advice of some on "the other side", I was told not to be friends with Ron, that he is nothing but a liar, is only after my money, (that was a funny one there cause I have none) and that every relationship he has ends badly after a year. Well 2 years to 2 1/2 years later, Ron has become like a Big Brother to me, one of my best friends, and I am not talking just industry wise I am talking LIFE wise. In the short time I have known him, he has changed the way I look at and operate my business, he has helped me to DOUBLE my business and income, (even though you know nothing about the residential business...LOL) There has never been a time that he has lied to me,or that I have seen him lie to anyone. There are things I have seen him do to HELP people that would blow your mind, yet if I mention it, it could end our friendship as he will not allow me too. There are things I see people do to him and say about him and his family that would send an ordinary man into a permanent state of depression, yet it rolls off his back and he just continues to help THEM.

Ron, I have said it before and I will say it again. I am honored to serve by your side as your Vice President of the UAMCC. I am honored everytime you take the time to give me advice to help me as a business man and as a person. But most of all I am proud and honored to call you FRIEND. I will ALWAYS be on your side brother.
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Tony Shelton said:
It does need to be in the boards.

I've never met a stronger, more grounded, more honest, more sharing group in any other industry like the guys right here on PWI.

Unfortunately, mixed among them like thorns in the wheat are a bunch of whispering, accusing, wannabes and sissies that constantly get on the phone like a bunch of little teenage girls and whine about Ron with vague accusations.

Thad is one of the worst. Have you ever heard these hit songs from Thad?

"There's a lot more I could tell you but I'm not at liberty to say"

or

"It will all come out sooner or later, but I can't tell you more about it now"

or

"That's what I heard, but don't say anything about it to anybody else".


These are all famous hits Thad sings over and over again to anyone who will listen when he talks crap about Ron behind his back. He thinks he is very smooth about it and that he never says anything directly that can come back to haunt him. That way it's difficult to put together for the average contractor to put together 2 + 2 and realize that most of the stuff that comes out of his mouth is bull$hit.

I'm willing to put my money where my mouth is and lay it all out in print because I'm not afraid that I'm going to contradict a lie I told somewhere along the way. Why are these other guys not willing to do the same? You all know why. It's because half the time they can't even remember who they told what lie to!

This needs to be on the boards because lies and bull$hit fades in the light of day. This isn't some small disagreement between a couple of men. This is an ongoing attack with NO proof whatsoever of any wrongdoing by Ron.

Thad has many facebook accounts coming from his IP. Why? You tell me. It might be understandable to have a personal and a business account, but 5,6,7, 10 accounts under different names???? Why is that? The answer is D-E-C-E-P-T-I-O-N. I've got a 10 year old daughter. One of the greatest dangers she faces is a deceptive predator disguised on the internet as something they are not.

And gentlemen, there is an industry predator among you using the same tactics.

And now from one "contractor" account that has no location, no business and no info, Ron gets once again photoshopped on a foul picture and posted on facebook for all to see.

Deja Vu?

By the way, my facebook was hacked a couple of days ago. How did they get my password? All I can say is BEWARE of using the same password to sign in on any boards that these guys run. There's not enough integrity for them to not take your password and try it everywhere else till it works. Beware.

This is not a private issue that needs to be taken care of by a couple of guys on the phone. This is a split in our industry caused by one jealous group's hatred or Ron Musgraves. This is an industry problem that needs to be taken care of by the industry as a whole.

Make a stand an choose a side or move aside and let the men fight.

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Hey Tony, Silverhill Alabama is like 15 miles from me, did someone access your account from there????
 
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