If your Looking for a More positive professional forum for industry related Talk

[Ron Musgraves]

http://www.uamcc.org/forum/forum.php

 

[NJWashingGuy]

http://www.uamcc.org/forum/forum.php

Ron,
There have been 25 total posts over the last week at that forum. Far from what would be considered a professional resource.
I guess from your statement that you agree that PWI is not a professional place. As the owner you should do something to make this a better place. I know you love the drama and excessive posts since it helps your sites ranking, but it has gone far afield and doesn't look too professional.

 

[Guy Blackmon]

It's The "No Spin Zone" of Org. forums!!!!!!!

 

[bigchaz]

Since you hate it here so much Mike why don't you come over to UAMCC form

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[Ron Musgraves]

Ron,
There have been 25 total posts over the last week at that forum. Far from what would be considered a professional resource.
I guess from your statement that you agree that PWI is not a professional place. As the owner you should do something to make this a better place. I know you love the drama and excessive posts since it helps your sites ranking, but it has gone far afield and doesn't look too professional.

Mike PWI is Run by Doug , Scott , Steven, Grant & Russ

I do not own this forum, I donated to you 12 years ago in May 2013

The Idea I own this is funny to me, something happened yesterday that I didn't agree with. That has happened many times on the last 12 years.

You see Mike if you do not like the BBS your going about it the wrong way.

I truthfully do not mind the controversy as long as no ones threatening to harm anyone or hurting them.

If your and adult you should be able to disagree and leave it at that. I do not agree with Tony all the time, but he is still my best friend. I think he of the wall nuts sometimes, maybe I like him because he is a realist.

I can tell you honestly disappointed in you, I had a conversation about you joining and you said you would. The next day you had a change of heart for some reason. I take commitments serious and your word. When you tell me your going to do something I expect you do it.

 

[Ron Musgraves]

Oh and the UAMCC is only gaining popularity , the forum is busy. You just are not in the private areas where the action happens

Crazy busy , doubled the traffic in 11 months

 

[NJWashingGuy]

Ron,
The reason that I did not join the forum is I am not going to waste my money supporting an organization of the same people on here that play their internet bully tactics when someone says something they do not like. The behavior here is very childish and I really don't care to be involved in the BS here anymore. I would rather go about my business and call someone I know or do work with if I run into an issue. I am sure that your not too disappointed that I am not a member there, you don't like my opinion or what I have to say anyway.
In addition to that, I look at the way a supposed group of professionals act here and am sickened. You should make the mindless blabbering section public so that people all over the country can see how the "professionals" that they conduct business with behave in private. Although I don't agree with what Robert is doing, I also disagree with the way that he is treated here. He tried to do something that he thought was good for the industry. He has been doing this for years. There were roundtables that alot of people here went to and supported at his facility when he was doing this work. You had your split with P&NA and now its the U&MCC's turn to take over the industry. Free membership drive to say that this org out numbers the P&NA and that this is the industry's voice is nothing more than a pathetic power struggle between a group of people that all used to be friends and support one another.
The U&MCC has been a mess from the start and never delivered on any of its promises. The best thing they did was the Orlando show, only to not be able to pay the keynote speaker, have the books cooked, everyone wondering where all the money went, who owned the org etc. Hardly what I would call professional. Now you want to ressurect it and it is the greatest thing since sliced bread even though you were one of the guys that wanted to destroy it in its infancy along with other members here.
There is too much drama for an industry that does cosmetic cleaning. There will likely nenver be a national standard that effects this business. I am sure that the U&MCC will not be able to offer legal protection to a contractor who gets themself in a jam, so where does the value come from. "Group rental rates" , "lower cost hotel stays" etc and all the other things that were promised in the past. I can negotiate a rental rate at the counter and tell the hotel I am a AAA member and get the same or better rate. What happened to the group insurance plan? Or has this gone by the wayside too in favor of stopping the evil Robert from destroying the industry?
This is not the behavior of a group of grown men, it seems more like the inner workings of an 8th grade classroom.
If you want to talk more about this, pass me a note in gym.

 

[mistersqueegee]

If you expect an association forum to have the kind of post numbers that an open forum with thousands more members has I think you are going to be disappointed. I love the UAMCC forum for the ability to give solid info and keep it respectful. Think of it this way. Open forums are often like an unbridled horse. it goes where it chooses. Now bridle that horse and you have the ability to do serious work. That is what the UAMCC forum offers. Serious work. I come here to unwind or ask a question of a wider crowd knowing I'll have to take some disagreeable comments along the way. I go to the UAMCC forum to get answers to questions that I can't afford to be wading thru the minutia on.

 

[mistersqueegee]

Now I'm sad I wasted a reply to you Michael. It seems you just wanted to come here to do the very thing you were complaining about. if you need me I'll be in the Library looking up irony in the dictionary.

 

[Ron Musgraves]

Sounds like you bought lies, I never stopped supporting even when I was thrown out. I continued at the Florida Nce show to bring members to the UAmCc and the pwna.

I have has no split with pwna, a few men made some mistakes clearly. You really have your facts mixed up. Eric Charlie and most all past presidents are close friends. The pwna is my pressure washing association. They will likely always be.

None of the past members in either org can say I was against either , only responsible for building them both up where they are today.

Roberts a grown man , he chose the path and sounds completely ok with it. I have always stated Robert knows the ms4 and if you want to discharge there he has solutions. I just do not practice his methods because I stay out of jurisdiction.

So your accusations and treating me this way is ok? You believe I only do harm to the industry?

Interesting


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[NJWashingGuy]

Now I'm sad I wasted a reply to you Michael. It seems you just wanted to come here to do the very thing you were complaining about. if you need me I'll be in the Library looking up irony in the dictionary.

I guess that I can't offer my opinion in a respectful way. highlighting the way I feel with truths. Sad that it should offend you.
If the UAMCC works for you, thats good enjoy it.

 

[NJWashingGuy]

No threats or accusations in what I said above

 

[junker1]

I dont believe there are any " bully tactics " going on. these discussions are real. they affect peoples lives. whether its the posts about l.e.o or the e.p.a they are real concerns for some people here. of course things may get heated, as they often do, but If one was to be shy then nothing would get announced.

Now whether one believes they should be concerned about these matters is for them to decide. if you decide they do not concern you then we will see ya on the other forums/threads

 

[mistersqueegee]

I guess that I can't offer my opinion in a respectful way. highlighting the way I feel with truths. Sad that it should offend you.
If the UAMCC works for you, thats good enjoy it.

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Cute pic. I didn't see your comments as you offering your opinion in a respectful way. As far a Hey KoolAid goes - you seem to be a supporter of Robert. That seems to be Jonestown level KoolAid drinking to me.

 

[Kristopher Pettitt]

I take commitments serious and your word.

Alright I need to address this since you brought it up. Ron, look I have a lot of respect for you, and I also know that you offer a lot in this industry. I take someone's commitment and word very serious to. A few months back you were down in my area and we were talking on Facebook and even on the phone, and you said that you would swing by the next day to show me a few (not a whole lot) tricks of the trade to help me out. And I believed you so much that I went and found a sitter for my 2 kids, got my trailer from the in-laws had everything set up only to wait the entire day for you not to show up, for you not to commit to your word. Yet I've said nothing to you about it until now. I gave you the benefit of the doubt figuring that maybe you got busy, guess I was just making an excuse for you. I don't know. Not even did I receive a courtesy phone call or email saying that you couldn't make it. We all know you have one those smart phone. I even messaged you that morning reminding you, yet didn't hear from you that day. I even saw pictures of you at hydrotek. So please don't sit here and say you take a someone's word and commitment seriously when you can't even keep your own word. At any time you could have changed your mind and said you can't make it, but you didn't.

 

[NJWashingGuy]

Cute pic. I didn't see your comments as you offering your opinion in a respectful way. As far a Hey KoolAid goes - you seem to be a supporter of Robert. That seems to be Jonestown level KoolAid drinking to me.

Tony,
I am not a Robert supporter, you should re-read the post. I said that I disagree with the way that he is treated on here. As is said in this thread, we should all be able to respectfully disagree, right?

 

[Ron Musgraves]

Alright I need to address this since you brought it up. Ron, look I have a lot of respect for you, and I also know that you offer a lot in this industry. I take someone's commitment and word very serious to. A few months back you were down in my area and we were talking on Facebook and even on the phone, and you said that you would swing by the next day to show me a few (not a whole lot) tricks of the trade to help me out. And I believed you so much that I went and found a sitter for my 2 kids, got my trailer from the in-laws had everything set up only to wait the entire day for you not to show up, for you not to commit to your word. Yet I've said nothing to you about it until now. I gave you the benefit of the doubt figuring that maybe you got busy, guess I was just making an excuse for you. I don't know. Not even did I receive a courtesy phone call or email saying that you couldn't make it. We all know you have one those smart phone. I even messaged you that morning reminding you, yet didn't hear from you that day. I even saw pictures of you at hydrotek. So please don't sit here and say you take a someone's word and commitment seriously when you can't even keep your own word. At any time you could have changed your mind and said you can't make it, but you didn't.

Funny I went by you late, called you no answer. Then invited you the next day to spend some time with others.

All I can say is WOW

Could it be you don't text?

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[Kristopher Pettitt]

Funny I went by you late, called you no answer. Then invited you the next day to spend some time with others.

All I can say is WOW


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Woah, that is not what happened and don't "WOW" me. You never called. I had both my personal and business phone in my pocket the whole day. And I messaged you about meeting you guys up, but when I heard that you guys were already meeting and that I was an hour away I backed off cause I didn't want you guys waiting on me. And you didn't call me, you posted something on facebook saying you and few guys were getting together and to text you for more information, and so I texted you.

Don't try to save your ass by turning this around as if it was my fault.

 

[Ron Musgraves]

Woah, that is not what happened and don't "WOW" me. You never called. I had both my personal and business phone in my pocket the whole day. And I messaged you about meeting you guys up, but when I heard that you guys were already meeting and that I was an hour away I backed off cause I didn't want you guys waiting on me. And you didn't call me, you posted something on facebook saying you and few guys were getting together and to text you for more information, and so I texted you.

Don't try to save your ass by turning this around as if it was my fault.

I guess I'm confused because I thought that was you?


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[Kristopher Pettitt]

Proof is in the pudding

From me to Ron on November 28th 2012 at 12:53pm

Hey Ron just was wondering if we were gonna get together this afternoon or not?

Was seen by you that day, and yet still no response to that exact phrase. It's blank after that... so yeah.... wow.