Hood Cleaning School

Rusty

Stop we are just getting going. I learned one thing in the Marine Corp. When it gets tough-the tough get going.

Save your money-buy a fishing boat and fly out West and we will teach you.

David
 
I'm definitely not going anywhere.

Rusty
 
who has the best school?
 
Dom, tried to answer your question but so much activity on this board it's hard to post. Simple answer - just as it takes instruction to mop floors, so too it takes a great deal of expertise to teach you how to scrape grease. Sheesh! We learned how to clean grease on first job - without an instructor.

Bryan is worried about falling off a ladder - this should put your fears to rest - Rusty recommends a 14 foot ladder with a working height of about 10 feet! Must be a lot of squat buildings in Tenn, couldn't even reach the gutter at most of our locations. Also conspicious by its absence is a diaphram pump. Surely they don't apply hot chems with one of those pump-up bug sprayers? If so, soon one of their grads will have an accident that will happen - then look out.

Still wondering what use they have for "grease boots" (whatever that is) given that they don't get dirty (Rusty's words). I have done jobs with my dress shoes without hurting them.

Where is the soak tank in equipment? They can't possibly powerwash baffles with their method. Must be some new cleaning mode - would sure like to hear it.

Rusty, would you please resond to the previous request for references. Your great success (your words) over extended years surely has produced multiplied hundreds of grads. Please cull out of few for references. Don't need many - 3 or 4 dozen of your clientele will suffice. Thanks
Richard
 
Our company 'Advanced Cleaning Systems' which is the www.hoodcleaningschool.com company started last May and we have had 8 people complete their training. Our other company, Degrease Hood & Duct Service has been cleaning for 10 years and is very successful.

I will not provide personal information about our clients. But for those who apply, I will surely supply you with references.

The ladder is a 14 ft. extension ladder to 28 feet. Safety is a major portion of our training.

Our equipment is chosen specifically for our cleaning technique and is a perfect match for what we do. If you choose to attend our school, the purchase of equipment is completely optional. That is you can buy any equipment from anyone anywhere. We simply provide equipment as a convenience to our customers who don't already own a power washing company.

We use a USDA Slaughter house type of boot designed for walking on grease.

Our clients log in from 18+ hours during their training during the week that they are here.

The marketing is done by my wife (her company) for our clients.

I don't have the time to answer all of these repetitious questions. If you are seriously interested in this then please contact me directly via e-mail or read our website thoroughly. I will be happy to answer your questions directly. This forum is serving no real purpose. Another good place to look is our FAQ's section www.hoodcleaningschool.com/faq's.htm .

I know something that is worth 8 grand and I guess that is what it will take to find out. If scraping grease is all that we provided, you are right it's not worth it, but we provide so much more. We are a complete turn key business.

Our school is definitely the best (of course I'm just slightly biased).

Please read my previous posts if you just joined in on this debate.

Thanks,

Rusty
www.hoodcleaningschool.com
acsbiz@dhdsi.com
 
OK so If I am understanding this.....Your Certification to certifi others comes from Advanced Cleaning Systems the company you jest happen to also own! Which is "not" a member of IKECA(international kitchen cleaning association) So Rusty in reality you havent any certification nor state recognition as a training facility!And being that your certification offers no more than any others( your words) I am lead to wonder why anyone would attend your school? I wish you success in your future endevers.
 
Rusty

Come back anytime if you need some further information about hood cleaning-we are here to the hard questions. Everything aside I enjoyed the banter back and forth. Airfare is low going west!

Best of Luck

David
 
OK Rusty I will try to make this quick


pull up to the job site, gain access, one guy goes inside to do prep work.
a) removes filters, and any grease containment system that may be in use.
b) start soaking filters.
c) move and or cover cooking equipment, which ever is applicable for the location.
d) set up plastic to contain water, again depending on the location
e) scrape heavily soiled area's, and apply chemical to entire hood and lower duct.

The other guy is hooking up equipment, gaining access to roof, also is available to help move cooking equipment if necessary
this guy then cleans the fan(s) and ducts by scraping, scrubbing, soaking with chemical and pressure washing. Again what ever is necessary
Now the work on the roof is done, he then comes inside to pressure wash the hoods, and filters if the guy downstairs was not able to clean them in the meantime.
now the cleaning is done and the cleanup starts, waist water is dealt with, hoods are wiped out and polished (this is a step that we may not do depending on the account and what they are expecting) cooking equipment is connected, pilots are lit, fans are checked to make sure they are working properly, surrounding surfaces are wiped as needed, floors are mopped.

Now with that said what is it that you do that is significantly different. ( your cleaning technique as you put it) if you can answer that question I think most of us will back off, maybe.

What you are offering is something different, and people resist change. You are going to have to help us understand what it is that makes your method so much different or better.
 
Wow Bryan, that is precisely how we do it! We gravitated to this 'system' within a week or two when first started - all without the benefit of any prior experience or an on-site teacher! This includes how to soak baffles instead of the arduous method of powerwashing them. Didn't take superior intellect - it is just amazing what common sense will do when one is driven by a desire to succeed. With a few refinements we do things the same way today except we now work in concert like a well-oiled machine with little or no conversation. Today we can do a job in 2 hours which took 5 or 6 hours when we first started - now that is progress eh?
Richard
 
Rusty don't run away, I am sure most here are not angry at you but just want to put you to the test as I did, some of what I read just does not sound possible or safe.

That said you can benefit here, this board and other boards offer a lot for you and your students if you would kindly give them the link to this board. Unless you have something to hide you should offer that information to them, it is part of the ongoing training and learning, at least how I see it. Got a question someone here has the answer, need help, someone can help.

I am not interested in your customers, but would love to hear from your 8 students.

Jon
 
Bryan

I think that you hit the mark-that is the Magic and once you get that system down you can clean any hood system.

David
 
Rusty
You said that you will GAUREENTEE 20 customers a month,( which you cant) you say you will call the customers in the said area code and bid them over the phone than your grad goes and does the job and collects the money..and sends you a % of it..........how can you bid a job over the phone and at sight unseen??? how can you gaureentee it???
1 person? come on....security demands 2 people, 2 people ARE faster and safer than 1..... thiefs and crooks look for oppurtunities to rob people and in the last several years it has gotten worse.. just 6 weeks ago a fellow walked in the back door of a restaurant while the employees were taking out the trash and shoot out the managers window while he was in the office and the busckshot went through the wall and into a packed dinning room......several years back a single man was doing a Denny's in our area he was walking on a flat single story roof and tripped on a power cord and unfortunatley fall off the roof, broke his neck and died the staff found him in the morning. you also say that you can pick the easiest stores first than come back later and pick up the harder ones?? I guess the store owners will just wait on your grads to come back months on down the road when they get better at what they do while their stores are becoming powder kegs??
we've been in bussiness for over a decade and am a true believer that there is saftey in numbers and that 2 ARE faster than one.....ever hear of time managment???
In my opinion as a professional who owns a service that is over a decade old and services over 1300 stores I would love to put one of your grads (seasoned of course. if you have any) against 2 of my season tech's. it's in my professional opinion that some of your statments are misrepresented.........or at the least over enthusiastic
Maybe if we lived in a perfect world it might work but we dont you say you offer an alternitive that no one else offers...theres not a ton of different ways to do this..as far as chemicals go your brands are no different than whats on the market, maybe your label but not the content its either a sodium or potassium hydroxide based cleaner....I think it takes more than 18 hrs to properley learn this field
 
Yeah there is not too many ways to skin that cat.
The point of posting that was to try to get Rusty to tell us what his exclusive method is. From what I can tell they are simply only accepting the cup cake jobs, which doesn't seem like the way to build a business, unless you are only part timing it.
You know if I decided tomorrow, that I didn't want to deal with employees anymore, I could probably pick out 200 or so of my easier jobs, and do pretty well for myself with part time help.
I would still need my wife to make scheduling calls or I would never sleep. That’s another question I would like Rusty to answer. How do they handle the scheduling if the one guy with no employees is out doing 2 to 3 jobs by himself?

Here is something we can kick around. How do you guys hang the plastic at the back of the hood against the wall?
 
What happened to Rusty??

Today I thought what the heck I'll go look at his site some more and what do I see it is no longer there. Maybe its my computer but I tried to get to it several times. Hey Rusty maybe if the $8,000 included all the equipment you need that might make it worth it? Maybe.

I have to agree that two guys are better then one. I guess some people can do it by themselves but I for one would rather not. What if you have to pull off a monster fan. Boy those fans get heavy fast.
 
What the hell is going on

I see so many posts with one or two answers to a questions. Their are five pages here to the most rediculous and insane idea ive ever seen. Spend your time wisely.
 
Put it this way, Walter - if he were responding to the IRS in the same manner they would disallow all above-the-line expenses until he provides real answers, and possibly look at evasion potential.
Richard
 
Hoodcleaningschool.com is still here!

This past year has been a wonderful year for us here at Advanced Cleaning Systems.

We have had 14 students complete our training program and become Certified Hood and Duct Cleaners from Advanced Cleaning Systems.

We have a 140 question written post instruction exam.

We have started a 3 Day Certification Only course for existing kitchen exhaust cleaners who seek certification.

We have our Certification so that it doesn't expire as long as the individual continues to actively clean kitchen exhaust systems.

We attended a meeting and gave a presentation on kitchen exhaust cleaning to all of the Fire Marshals of the entire state of Florida.

We are working with an insurance company in Virginia/ Washington DC area who are requiring there restaurants to be cleaned by Certified Hood & Duct Cleaners.

We use the NFPA 96 as our gold standard of where we want this industry to go.

We are helping power washers who want to get into the field of kitchen exhaust cleaning.

We have started Advanced Marketing where we guarantee our clients business upon return to their home area.

We have started Advanced Leasing to lease our equipment to our students.

We have significantly improved our Kitchen exhaust cleaning equipment packages.

We have custom modified our power washers to clean with steam as well as be power washers.

We have a new logo.

We have improved our Master Documents Manual that each student received with all of their custom forms preprinted with their information on them.

We have rewritten and updated our Kitchen Exhaust Cleaning Manual supplement that we add to Phil Ackland's Certification Manual.

We have been very busy and appreciate all that the members here on this board have done for us and I would to take this time to say a big "THANKS" to each and everyone of you
 
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It's good to know that you are still out and about as they say. I recall that the last time you were on this wonderful bb you came under a barrage of questions that were less than complimenting. I for one consider your program a shame and you have no reason to thank this site.

We would like to chat with your new graduate in about a month just to see if he had got to his second job yet.

Oh yes who certified your company? One more thing, I don't think any members of PWNA or IKECA will pay you a dime for your program. I still have a offer to train anyone as long as it is not in my area to clean hoods and I even will give them a 140 question test. The cost is just the labor an a dinner.

David:mad:
 
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