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Hey Robert maybe it's time to let these guys here do whatever it is that they want to do. You have the respect of many who know all the hard work you have done.. Including creating 2 orgs. It looks like hypocrisy the guys giving you the least amount of respect show off your org. The UAMCC logo the most.

They obviously do not want to work with all you have done. Let then reinvent the wheel if there so inclined. Let them do the work. If it's legitimate we'll all know soon enough. If it's just computer "Pipe dreaming" there will be no difference next year like there was no difference last year. Guys just tooting there horn but wherever you look on your own there is nothing there.

It's all about "I'm right your wrong" ego talk anyway. Just look a few post up.

They got something to prove.. Then don't work with them.. Let them go out and prove it. It's put up or shut up in the grand scheme of things anyway.

Cya in Vegas.

John, I was adopted. My natural father deserted my mother and she gave me up at ten days old.

I have parents and they are not it.

My parents are the ones who took and abandoned child and put the time and effort into raising him.

Just because someone starts something doesn't mean they accomplished anything with it. Carlos did more in less than two years with the UAMCC than Robert ever did.

You might want to invest in some knee protection if you continue worshipping Robert.

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I don't worship anyone Tony....not even... Well maybe one day but not now.

I'm not a supporter of beating someone down who has done so much. To me it's not about this guy is this and that guy is that. You like to pit people against each other. Your example of Carlos in there is your way of thinking. Attack attack attack. I don't think for a second Carlos would entertain your point above.

Your the one who wears Roberts org. All over your signature. Yet you belittle him continuously.

Somewhere I think it burns you up that you have to show his org. so proudly on your signature when you think so little of him..

Roberts good people and no matter how many times you say things about him... To me its just mean.

Go out there and make a difference Tony and maybe one day will be wearing your the new org. you guys would probably start up if you became successful because Robert doing so much good just burns you guys up.

Good luck.
 
John with all due respect, it's not Robert's org. It belongs to the contractors who built it and Robert is just one of many. When you give all the credit to Robert you belittle everyone else.
 
John with all due respect, it's not Robert's org. It belongs to the contractors who built it and Robert is just one of many. When you give all the credit to Robert you belittle everyone else.
I'm only doing back to what Tony does. You know what I'm talking about Tony E. Obviously the UAMCC is it's members org. and they should get all the credit for keeping it afloat and building it as well..

Why you guys don't reign Tony S. In and tell him to stop beating the bejeezus out of Robert at every turn for the thrill of it is beyond me. All he's doing is discrediting Robert at every turn. Is this the goal of the UAMCC to discredit others??

How about discrediting the founder?? That's all it looks like Tony wants to do.. He should be reigned in and told to stop because he represents your org. as well. We all like Tony but it doesn't mean we have to like what he's doing and the more I see this as others do the happier we are knowing that it was worth giving up our UAMCC membership or as in some people's case.. They never joined when they were on the fence.

That's the truth.. and before you dismiss it Tony E. at least give this some thought.
 
The containment in that place, steel across the drive.
Structural BMP's at a gas station - No Off-Property Discharge, No Requirements under CWA.

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I'm only doing back to what Tony does. You know what I'm talking about Tony E. Obviously the UAMCC is it's members org. and they should get all the credit for keeping it afloat and building it as well..

Why you guys don't reign Tony S. In and tell him to stop beating the bejeezus out of Robert at every turn for the thrill of it is beyond me. All he's doing is discrediting Robert at every turn. Is this the goal of the UAMCC to discredit others??

How about discrediting the founder?? That's all it looks like Tony wants to do.. He should be reigned in and told to stop because he represents your org. as well. We all like Tony but it doesn't mean we have to like what he's doing and the more I see this as others do the happier we are knowing that it was worth giving up our UAMCC membership or as in some people's case.. They never joined when they were on the fence.

That's the truth.. and before you dismiss it Tony E. at least give this some thought.

Someone had to do it John.

I know I have made a lot of enemies over this. Funny thing is, prior to joining PWI in 2008 I was a business loner and never got involved in the manner I am today.

I had a business relationship with someone closely related to all this who decided to breach our contract, probably because of my outspoken opposition to what they are doing through Robert.

This has cost me many thousands. A full disclosure of this will come out at a later time because every detail released has to be approved by my attorney.

So this thing you think is about "egos" has cost me friends, relationships, time, effort, money, and contributed to slower business growth last year with all the travel.

But, John, somebody had to do it. The direction was wrong. We can't build on Robert's foundation because the foundation, the bedrock of his whole program, is based on the premise that we are polluters.

Robert is the one who refused to work with us.

The only way to break the cycle was for someone to take the unpopular stand and question whether Robert's motives were suspect declare that even if they weren't his results have screwed us.

Believe me John, it would have been a lot easier just to go along with the flow.




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Hey Robert maybe it's time to let these guys here do whatever it is that they want to do. You have the respect of many who know all the hard work you have done.. Including creating 2 orgs. It looks like hypocrisy the guys giving you the least amount of respect show off your org. The UAMCC logo the most.

They obviously do not want to work with all you have done. Let then reinvent the wheel if there so inclined. Let them do the work. If it's legitimate we'll all know soon enough. If it's just computer "Pipe dreaming" there will be no difference next year like there was no difference last year. Guys just tooting there horn but wherever you look on your own there is nothing there.

It's all about "I'm right your wrong" ego talk anyway. Just look a few post up.

They got something to prove.. Then don't work with them.. Let them go out and prove it. It's put up or shut up in the grand scheme of things anyway.

Cya in Vegas.

There is a difference between not respecting someone and disagreeing. I have a huge amount of respect
for Robert and for many different reasons. Doesn't mean I have to agree with him or think he has accomplished
what you, he, or a few others think for our industry.

And it is NOT his org. Yeah he started it. The UAMCC was started because he was no longer able to be part of the
PWNA, not because the industry needed two orgs, but because he no longer had a voice through an org. Once he was
allowed back in the PWNA and had his voice again, he was pretty much done with the UAMCC. If the reasoning that
the UAMCC was started because the industry needed two orgs, then the UAMCC or any other org, could have been
started at any time other than the years he was not involved w the PWNA.

We wear the UAMCC badge, (and by the way, that's a certified badge,from our certification program, something that
Ron, Bill Booz, Nichole and about 30 other contractors worked hard on,) proudly because 9 BOD members have been
working hard at ressurecting an org that was pretty much left for dead. We wear that badge proudly because we
have members that actually are encouraged to bring ideas to the table and a BOD that listens to it's members.

The line about "I'm right your wrong" ego talk goes both ways John, and maybe you should look up a few of your
own posts while accusing others of trying to do something based totally on an ego. One could actually say that
the reason the UAMCC was formed was based on EGO.
 
There is a difference between not respecting someone and disagreeing. I have a huge amount of respect
for Robert and for many different reasons. Doesn't mean I have to agree with him or think he has accomplished
what you, he, or a few others think for our industry.

And it is NOT his org. Yeah he started it. The UAMCC was started because he was no longer able to be part of the
PWNA, not because the industry needed two orgs, but because he no longer had a voice through an org. Once he was
allowed back in the PWNA and had his voice again, he was pretty much done with the UAMCC. If the reasoning that
the UAMCC was started because the industry needed two orgs, then the UAMCC or any other org, could have been
started at any time other than the years he was not involved w the PWNA.

We wear the UAMCC badge, (and by the way, that's a certified badge,from our certification program, something that
Ron, Bill Booz, Nichole and about 30 other contractors worked hard on,) proudly because 9 BOD members have been
working hard at ressurecting an org that was pretty much left for dead. We wear that badge proudly because we
have members that actually are encouraged to bring ideas to the table and a BOD that listens to it's members.

The line about "I'm right your wrong" ego talk goes both ways John, and maybe you should look up a few of your
own posts while accusing others of trying to do something based totally on an ego. One could actually say that
the reason the UAMCC was formed was based on EGO.

It doesn't matter why Robert created the UAMCC or why in your words he was pretty much "Done" with the UAMCC. Regardless he gave us and now you this org.

Once again your history about Robert is also incorrect. Your suppose sources (your words again from the past) maybe gave you bad info or you just don't care to know the truth. I'll take the lesser of 2 evils and say it's the first one because they apparently gave you some way off info about me a couple of yrs ago as well just to discredit once again.

So you want to know one of the reasons I care for Robert and give this man the respect he deserves?? You probably don't because I'm not your "Source" but I'll put it here for the viewers to decide. Besides knowing what the right thing to do here concerning Robert because he has earned the respect of 1000's outside of the 20 or 30 on Tony's pole in a different thread concerning Robert.. Remember your words above "he was pretty much done with the UAMCC"

You need to do some research as any other good VP would do because your one of the figure heads to the UAMCC and your giving out wrong info once again.

These are the facts. Robert was never done with the UAMCC. If he only gave them 5% of his time it was still more then 95%(I hope you understand #'s and %'s) of what others gave and still give the UAMCC today since you have 100's of free UAMCC members now(still don't understand this one and please explain this. From what I was told Billy Booze lost the crowd on this at the VOLA event recently)

So what did Robert do from the point you said he was "pretty much done with the UAMCC"?? He went to our very first UAMCC Rebirth meeting. He gave us the UAMCC. (Carlos took the helm here and the original people including myself on conference calls felt strongly that Carlos was the man for this).

Now not only did Robert give us the contractors the UAMCC he donated a $1000 right then and there. He also stayed involved thru phone calls etc.

So before you just dismiss him and allow your "subordinates" to attack his character, you as a leader need to get it together and learn your history first and look what's going on here. You also have a few others inflamed including myself because we gave the UAMCC alot as well and your casting aside the person that gave "US" this opportunity which now today gives "YOU" the same opportunity as well. Hopefully you can surpass us with flying colors since we had 145 paid members the first year...and today you apparently have 100's of members(can you explain this--- how many of these are paid members and what the difference to the "non" paying members-- never heard such a thing so I don't understand it)

And no I don't agree with Robert all the time and yes I felt Robert should only be in a position of a consultant with the UAMCC when I was involved so we can break away from his tremendous shadow... But as you know after a bunch of us pretty much left he was made the UAMCC enviro chair and that caused another whole different argument.

I know my history here Doug... Do you? Do you even care or is it soley to move your own personal interest forward?
 
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I thought this thread was about reclaiming stuff and EPA crap?

Enjoy. . . .
So did I but names are getting dropped in here as yours was in Tony's post pitting your accomplishments against Roberts..
 
I'm only doing back to what Tony does. You know what I'm talking about Tony E. Obviously the UAMCC is it's members org. and they should get all the credit for keeping it afloat and building it as well..

Why you guys don't reign Tony S. In and tell him to stop beating the bejeezus out of Robert at every turn for the thrill of it is beyond me. All he's doing is discrediting Robert at every turn. Is this the goal of the UAMCC to discredit others??

How about discrediting the founder?? That's all it looks like Tony wants to do.. He should be reigned in and told to stop because he represents your org. as well. We all like Tony but it doesn't mean we have to like what he's doing and the more I see this as others do the happier we are knowing that it was worth giving up our UAMCC membership or as in some people's case.. They never joined when they were on the fence.

That's the truth.. and before you dismiss it Tony E. at least give this some thought.

John, look at the title of the thread started by Robert. His posts in this thread (or should I say copy and paste demos) all indicate he is trying to paint this industry in a negative light to officials and convince the rest of us he is our only savior. That hardly seems like a stance that deserves commendation or credit of any kind. In fact I'd say it's something that should give cause for pause to all those who support him in it. Again just my opinion but from what I've seen Robert is in the wrong here.
 


I might not be as well versed with the back story as some but I did take a stab at this issue about 2 years ago here and on the grime scene.

From all appearances...you appear to be carrying the flag for the EPA, not pressure washing contractors. Now, I have no idea what your motives are but I have to say, when you sit back totally removed from the Org's (as I am), totally removed from the internal politics of the industry (as I am) and just study both the material and approach....something seems out of whack.

For example....the title if the pages you posted. After searching several variations of "epa's model ordinance cosmetic cleaning BMP's" it seems all I can find is something you posted, wrote, presented or like this thread, was discussed in a forum. Try it! When you do see something "official" it's a result of or based on your model. I just find that odd.

Seriously....it's almost as if your trying to chisel your name into environmental history. I say that because you certainly are not going to make many friends at the contractor level running around the country pushing local communities to create an ordinance where none existed.


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I suppose what bothers me the most is how I'm supposed to just accept the words and ignore the deeds. I'm just supposed to accept that you are on "our side" because you, PWNA and the Cop says so. I look at slides like these...or read your other material and I can't help but feel setup. The government loves nothing more than to regulate and rule. All they need is someone in a position of authority (perceived or real) to point them in the right direction....which is what you have done and continue to do. Much is subtle...like the title "epa model ordinance cosmetic cleaning BMP's" or peppering this thread with your images. You probably reach more regulators spamming this thread than you do spamming their email. It's so obvious that it's sort of insulting. Some isn't so subtle...like shopping the BMP's across the US, slipping the UAMCC into the "joint press release".

In more than one thread and on more than one forum, I've criticized the idea of calling us "cosmetic cleaners". IMHO these two words have probably done more damage than all the others combined. We "clean pollution"...we don't make it. If powers that be understood this and the fact that the oil is "going down the drain" regardless, they'd put red lights and a siren on our trucks.....not ticket us. It's like arresting the paramedic for showing up on the scene of a shooting.

I for one would like to hear exactly what the "motive" is for this crusade like push for adoption of your "Model BMP Ordinance". I'm rational, reasonable and logical. If there is a good reason, I'm missing it but I'll keep an open mind to a good explanation.

I'm all ears.....
 

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Job Specific BMPs

Transportation Related Washing examples

Fleet Washing - Exterior Only

To remove dirt and hydrocarbons, with or without soap, Storm Drain disposal is not permitted. The wash water must be discharged to Landscaping or the Sanitary Sewer, some unavoidable evaporation will occur from paved surfaces.

Preferred - use wash pads to capture the wash water and discharge to the Sanitary Sewer.

  • Ideally, the customer has established a separate wash area that captures wash water.
  • Or, contract cleaner can use a temporary wash pad and pump to the Sanitary Sewer.
  • If the wash area is a paved surface, seal Storm Drains and rinse this surface after washing and rinsing each vehicle.
  • If a significant amount of wash water runoff evaporates at the site before it can be collected, and the site is routinely used for this purpose, the paved area itself must be cleaned.
  • The wash water must be collected and discharged to the Sanitary Sewer.

2nd Best - direct wash water to landscape or dirt area.

  • Wash water should be discharged to a landscape or dirt area sufficiently large enough to contain all the wash water. Discuss with the property owner.

Engine/Equipment Degreasing

Auto/truck drive train cleaning, engine degreasing and airplane cleaning including landing gear.

  • With or without soap, no Storm Drain disposal permitted.
  • Requires pretreatment before discharge to Sanitary Sewer.
  • Should be cleaned on a wash pad.

Acid Cleaning of Unpainted Trucks/Containers

Trucks and metal containers (unpainted) using acid cleaners.

  • No Storm Drain disposal permitted.
  • Runoff from cleaning unpainted trucks or containers with acid cleaners must be neutralized to a pH between 6 and 10 before discharging to the Sanitary Sewer

Mobile Auto Detailing

Infrequent, light cleaning, using soap - rarely at the same site; removing mainly dirt with minimum water volume.

Preferred - minimal runoff may remain on paved surfaces to evaporate.

  • If wash water will reach the Storm Drain, seal the Storm Drain and discharge the wash water to the Sanitary Sewer.
2nd Best - direct wash water to landscape or dirt area.

  • Wash water should be discharged to a dirt or landscape area sufficiently large enough to contain all the wash water. Discuss with the property owner.

Car Lot Rinsing for Dust Removal

Rinsing dust from exterior surfaces using water only, no soap or solvent.

  • If the vehicle or vehicles have been previously washed with a soap or solvent following BMPs, then it is acceptable to rinse the vehicles with just water and allow to discharge to a Storm Drain.
- The cars have to been cleaned before rinsing with just water to reduce dust.

  • Wash water should be discharged to a landscape or dirt area sufficiently large enough to contain all the wash water. Discuss with the property owner.
  • Prevent contamination of the runoff by not allowing it to run through oil deposits on the pavement or gutter.

Semi Trailers

Truck trailer, non toxic food related interior cleaning.

  • Sweep, collect and dispose of debris. Use dry cleaning methods as much as possible.
  • Food residue must be properly filtered.
- Filtered contents are disposed of as garbage.
  • Wash water cannot be discharged to the Storm Drain but must be discharged to the Sanitary Sewer.

Boat Cleaning

  • Filtered wash water must be discharged to the Sanitary Sewer.
  • Do not allow wash water to enter the lake, river, bay, ocean, etc.
  • Dispose of paint particles appropriately.
  • These BMPs do not address the disposal of paint.


Surface Cleaning examples

Sidewalks and Plazas - using soap and/or hot water

  • Sweep, collect and dispose of debris.
  • Wash water must go to the Sanitary Sewer
  • The BMPs in this section do not apply if there has been an oil or other hazardous material spill on the site. In the case of a hazardous spill, contact the local fire department for guidance.

Sidewalks, Plazas, Driveways, Drive-thru Window Areas - with light oil, frequently cleaned - no soap

  • Sweep, collect and dispose of debris.
  • Dry clean oil spots and properly dispose of debris.
  • Place oil absorbent boom or oil sock around storm drain.
  • Wash water may go to the Storm Drain through an oil absorbent boom and screen.
  • No oil sheen can be visible on the water flowing into the Storm Drain.

Drive-thrus, Driveways, Service Stations - with excess oil deposits, not frequently cleaned - with or without soap

  • Sweep, collect and dispose of debris.
  • Dry clean oil spots with absorbent and dispose of properly.
  • Seal Storm Drains and discharge wash water to the Sanitary Sewer.

Building Exteriors, Walls, House Washing, Roof Cleaning - without soap

  • Sweep, collect and dispose of debris.
  • Dry clean oil spots and properly dispose of debris.
  • Place oil absorbent boom or oil sock around storm drain.
  • Wash water may go to the Storm Drain through an oil absorbent boom and screen.
  • No oil sheen can be visible on the water flowing into the Storm Drain.

Building Exteriors, Walls, House Washing, Roof Cleaning - with soap

Preferred - seal Storm Drain, discharge wash water to the Sanitary Sewer.
2nd Best - direct wash water runoff to dirt or landscape areas.

Painted building, with paint job in good shape - no soap used

  • Built after 1977. For structures built before 1978, see the EPAs lead abatement program. These BMPs do not address this issue.

Preferred
- pre-clean, seal Storm Drain, discharge wash water to the Sanitary Sewer.

  • Dispose of collected particles as garbage.

2nd Best - pre-clean then direct wash water runoff to dirt or landscape areas.

Painted buildings, to remove paint and clean in preparation of painting - with or without soap

  • These BMPs do not address the disposal of paint.

Graffiti Removal - using wet sand blasting or high pressure washing with cleaning compound.

  • Minimize quantity of water used.
Preferred - pre-clean, seal storm drain, discharge wash water to the Sanitary Sewer.
2nd Best - pre-clean then direct wash water runoff to dirt or landscape areas.

Kitchen Exhaust Cleaning

  • With or without soap, no Storm Drain disposal permitted.
  • Large amounts of grease should be collected and put into the grease dumpster or disposed to Environmental Waste company
  • Wash water disposed to the grease trap.

Parking Garages - with excess oil deposits, not frequently cleaned - with or without soap

· Sweep, collect and dispose of debris.
Note: This may be hiring a street sweeper to do the initial cleaning.
· Dry clean oil spots with absorbent and dispose of properly.
· Seal Storm Drains and discharge wash water to the “Sanitary Sewer”.

Terminology:

· Sand Trap means some type of remediation for dirt, sand, debris, and hydrocarbons;
Common names are: Oil/Water Separator, Clarifiers, Sand Traps, inceptors, etc.
· AHJ: Authority Having Jurisdiction, which is going to be where you discharge your
waste water to: Sanitary Sewer or Storm Drain (MS4) Departments.

First off, to bid this type of job you need to look at the Architect Blue Prints and have a walk through with the inspector of the Sanitation Department to determine the following (in some cases the Sanitation Department will have plans which are more accurate and marked in conjunction with Google Maps):

· Where the Sanitary Sewer lines are, how they are identified or marked, and their flow capacity that is available for your waste water discharge. Note: if you exceed the capacity of Sanitary Sewer Lines you can stop up the plumbing and have multiple over flows of commodes on several floors!
· Where the Storm Drain lines are, how they are identified or marked, and their flow capacity that is available for your waste water discharge.
· What type of remediation system is at the bottom of the structure: is it a sand trap, Oil/Water Separator, sand/dirt filter, or nothing? You will find all types of remediation systems; newer buildings may have extensive remediation system like a sand trap or other advanced technology while older buildings may discharge everything directly to the storm drain (MS4).
· If there is a water collection system at the bottom of the structure, where does it discharge to? Sanitary Sewer or Storm Drain (MS4).
· What sort of containment technology exists in the structure? Was it built with Power Washing taken into consideration?
· Often Parking Garages are attached to loading docks. These will probably be covered to stop the entry of Storm Water with a Sand Trap installed leading to Sanitary Sewer. A lot of building managers do not know where these discharges go. Sometimes this takes up to a week to find out, but you have to know.
· After all of the above have been determined, you need to contact the Sanitary Sewer or Storm Drain (MS4) Departments about discharging to them through the building collection system if it exists, and determining what additional remediation may be required.
· If the structure has not been designed properly then you will have to determine the best way of capturing your wash water for proper disposal.
· If the EPA’s Model Ordinance has been adopted then all that is required is Precleaning and Filtration as explained in the first two PWNA/UAMCC BMPs, and determine the best way to capture your wash water for discharge to sanitary sewer.
· Where the waste water is discharged to will be the AHJ on the amount of remediation required. It can be as simple as oil absorbent booms and a sand filter to highly technical equipment costing over $100,000.00. These units have very large filtration capacity because of the large amounts of pollutants and debris found in multi-story parking garages. Your filtration system has to have the capacity to handle your discharge volume.
 
Note: The Job Specifid BMPs are the same as the previous table, just applied to different jobs.

Some consider this easier reading; I prefer the tables above so I can consider all situations. Covered here are:

Engine/Equipment Degreasing
Fleet Washing - Exterior Only
Acid Cleaning of Unpainted Trucks/Containers
Mobile Auto Detailing
Car Lot Rinsing for Dust Removal
Semi Trailers
Boat Cleaning
Sidewalks and Plazas - using soap and/or hot water
Sidewalks, Plazas, Driveways, Drive-thru Window Areas - with light oil, frequently cleaned - no soap
Drive-thrus, Driveways, Service Stations - with excess oil deposits, not frequently cleaned - with or without soap
Building Exteriors, Walls, House Washing, Roof Cleaning - without soap
Painted building, paint job in good shape - no soap used
Painted buildings, to remove paint and clean in preparation of painting - with or without soap
Graffiti Removal
Kitchen Exhaust Cleaning
Parking Garages - with excess oil deposits, not frequently cleaned - with or without soap


Job Specific BMPs

Transportation Related Washing examples

Fleet Washing - Exterior Only

To remove dirt and hydrocarbons, with or without soap, Storm Drain disposal is not permitted. The wash water must be discharged to Landscaping or the Sanitary Sewer, some unavoidable evaporation will occur from paved surfaces.

Preferred - use wash pads to capture the wash water and discharge to the Sanitary Sewer.

  • Ideally, the customer has established a separate wash area that captures wash water.
  • Or, contract cleaner can use a temporary wash pad and pump to the Sanitary Sewer.
  • If the wash area is a paved surface, seal Storm Drains and rinse this surface after washing and rinsing each vehicle.
  • If a significant amount of wash water runoff evaporates at the site before it can be collected, and the site is routinely used for this purpose, the paved area itself must be cleaned.
  • The wash water must be collected and discharged to the Sanitary Sewer.

2nd Best - direct wash water to landscape or dirt area.

  • Wash water should be discharged to a landscape or dirt area sufficiently large enough to contain all the wash water. Discuss with the property owner.

Engine/Equipment Degreasing

Auto/truck drive train cleaning, engine degreasing and airplane cleaning including landing gear.

  • With or without soap, no Storm Drain disposal permitted.
  • Requires pretreatment before discharge to Sanitary Sewer.
  • Should be cleaned on a wash pad.

Acid Cleaning of Unpainted Trucks/Containers

Trucks and metal containers (unpainted) using acid cleaners.

  • No Storm Drain disposal permitted.
  • Runoff from cleaning unpainted trucks or containers with acid cleaners must be neutralized to a pH between 6 and 10 before discharging to the Sanitary Sewer

Mobile Auto Detailing

Infrequent, light cleaning, using soap - rarely at the same site; removing mainly dirt with minimum water volume.

Preferred - minimal runoff may remain on paved surfaces to evaporate.

  • If wash water will reach the Storm Drain, seal the Storm Drain and discharge the wash water to the Sanitary Sewer.
2nd Best - direct wash water to landscape or dirt area.

  • Wash water should be discharged to a dirt or landscape area sufficiently large enough to contain all the wash water. Discuss with the property owner.

Car Lot Rinsing for Dust Removal

Rinsing dust from exterior surfaces using water only, no soap or solvent.

  • If the vehicle or vehicles have been previously washed with a soap or solvent following BMPs, then it is acceptable to rinse the vehicles with just water and allow to discharge to a Storm Drain.
- The cars have to been cleaned before rinsing with just water to reduce dust.

  • Wash water should be discharged to a landscape or dirt area sufficiently large enough to contain all the wash water. Discuss with the property owner.
  • Prevent contamination of the runoff by not allowing it to run through oil deposits on the pavement or gutter.

Semi Trailers

Truck trailer, non toxic food related interior cleaning.

  • Sweep, collect and dispose of debris. Use dry cleaning methods as much as possible.
  • Food residue must be properly filtered.
- Filtered contents are disposed of as garbage.
  • Wash water cannot be discharged to the Storm Drain but must be discharged to the Sanitary Sewer.

Boat Cleaning

  • Filtered wash water must be discharged to the Sanitary Sewer.
  • Do not allow wash water to enter the lake, river, bay, ocean, etc.
  • Dispose of paint particles appropriately.
  • These BMPs do not address the disposal of paint.


Surface Cleaning examples

Sidewalks and Plazas - using soap and/or hot water

  • Sweep, collect and dispose of debris.
  • Wash water must go to the Sanitary Sewer
  • The BMPs in this section do not apply if there has been an oil or other hazardous material spill on the site. In the case of a hazardous spill, contact the local fire department for guidance.

Sidewalks, Plazas, Driveways, Drive-thru Window Areas - with light oil, frequently cleaned - no soap

  • Sweep, collect and dispose of debris.
  • Dry clean oil spots and properly dispose of debris.
  • Place oil absorbent boom or oil sock around storm drain.
  • Wash water may go to the Storm Drain through an oil absorbent boom and screen.
  • No oil sheen can be visible on the water flowing into the Storm Drain.

Drive-thrus, Driveways, Service Stations - with excess oil deposits, not frequently cleaned - with or without soap

  • Sweep, collect and dispose of debris.
  • Dry clean oil spots with absorbent and dispose of properly.
  • Seal Storm Drains and discharge wash water to the Sanitary Sewer.

Building Exteriors, Walls, House Washing, Roof Cleaning - without soap

  • Sweep, collect and dispose of debris.
  • Dry clean oil spots and properly dispose of debris.
  • Place oil absorbent boom or oil sock around storm drain.
  • Wash water may go to the Storm Drain through an oil absorbent boom and screen.
  • No oil sheen can be visible on the water flowing into the Storm Drain.

Building Exteriors, Walls, House Washing, Roof Cleaning - with soap

Preferred - seal Storm Drain, discharge wash water to the Sanitary Sewer.
2nd Best - direct wash water runoff to dirt or landscape areas.

Painted building, with paint job in good shape - no soap used

  • Built after 1977. For structures built before 1978, see the EPAs lead abatement program. These BMPs do not address this issue.

Preferred
- pre-clean, seal Storm Drain, discharge wash water to the Sanitary Sewer.

  • Dispose of collected particles as garbage.

2nd Best - pre-clean then direct wash water runoff to dirt or landscape areas.

Painted buildings, to remove paint and clean in preparation of painting - with or without soap

  • These BMPs do not address the disposal of paint.

Graffiti Removal - using wet sand blasting or high pressure washing with cleaning compound.

  • Minimize quantity of water used.
Preferred - pre-clean, seal storm drain, discharge wash water to the Sanitary Sewer.
2nd Best - pre-clean then direct wash water runoff to dirt or landscape areas.

Kitchen Exhaust Cleaning

  • With or without soap, no Storm Drain disposal permitted.
  • Large amounts of grease should be collected and put into the grease dumpster or disposed to Environmental Waste company
  • Wash water disposed to the grease trap.

Parking Garages - with excess oil deposits, not frequently cleaned - with or without soap

· Sweep, collect and dispose of debris.
Note: This may be hiring a street sweeper to do the initial cleaning.
· Dry clean oil spots with absorbent and dispose of properly.
· Seal Storm Drains and discharge wash water to the “Sanitary Sewer”.

Terminology:

· Sand Trap means some type of remediation for dirt, sand, debris, and hydrocarbons;
Common names are: Oil/Water Separator, Clarifiers, Sand Traps, inceptors, etc.
· AHJ: Authority Having Jurisdiction, which is going to be where you discharge your
waste water to: Sanitary Sewer or Storm Drain (MS4) Departments.

First off, to bid this type of job you need to look at the Architect Blue Prints and have a walk through with the inspector of the Sanitation Department to determine the following (in some cases the Sanitation Department will have plans which are more accurate and marked in conjunction with Google Maps):

· Where the Sanitary Sewer lines are, how they are identified or marked, and their flow capacity that is available for your waste water discharge. Note: if you exceed the capacity of Sanitary Sewer Lines you can stop up the plumbing and have multiple over flows of commodes on several floors!
· Where the Storm Drain lines are, how they are identified or marked, and their flow capacity that is available for your waste water discharge.
· What type of remediation system is at the bottom of the structure: is it a sand trap, Oil/Water Separator, sand/dirt filter, or nothing? You will find all types of remediation systems; newer buildings may have extensive remediation system like a sand trap or other advanced technology while older buildings may discharge everything directly to the storm drain (MS4).
· If there is a water collection system at the bottom of the structure, where does it discharge to? Sanitary Sewer or Storm Drain (MS4).
· What sort of containment technology exists in the structure? Was it built with Power Washing taken into consideration?
· Often Parking Garages are attached to loading docks. These will probably be covered to stop the entry of Storm Water with a Sand Trap installed leading to Sanitary Sewer. A lot of building managers do not know where these discharges go. Sometimes this takes up to a week to find out, but you have to know.
· After all of the above have been determined, you need to contact the Sanitary Sewer or Storm Drain (MS4) Departments about discharging to them through the building collection system if it exists, and determining what additional remediation may be required.
· If the structure has not been designed properly then you will have to determine the best way of capturing your wash water for proper disposal.
· If the EPA’s Model Ordinance has been adopted then all that is required is Precleaning and Filtration as explained in the first two PWNA/UAMCC BMPs, and determine the best way to capture your wash water for discharge to sanitary sewer.
· Where the waste water is discharged to will be the AHJ on the amount of remediation required. It can be as simple as oil absorbent booms and a sand filter to highly technical equipment costing over $100,000.00. These units have very large filtration capacity because of the large amounts of pollutants and debris found in multi-story parking garages. Your filtration system has to have the capacity to handle your discharge volume.
 
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