Donald Trump - Who would vote for him?

I think the bankruptcy issue is an unfortunate one and its easy to vilify him for it and for the damage it may have caused people but at the end of the day the federal government has been bankrupt CONTINUOUSLY for as long as I've been alive and I guarantee has ruined lives in the tens of millions. I'd be interested in someone who can use experience in turning that around and has experiences what the real world brings to you when you simply don't have the money and stop taking for granted that the honey hole will never run out. Its not the case with Trumps business and the parallel I hope is something that would be crystal clear if Trump were to approach our own financial situation.
 
I would love if at the Inauguration he turns to Obama "Mr. President, YA Fired!! That would be the best day of my life up to that point.

As for trump himself, nobody really knows where he stands on ALOT of issues as he is still forming alot of opinions now that he's seriously considering it. We shall see. Of course if it comes between him or Osama, Ill vote trump everytime.
 
I would love to see a business man running this country - never going to happen though.

Too many people don't like him because he is successful.

Also there are not enough business/money savy people that can vote to get him into office.

I say it's like this - pore leader/pour country.



As far as the bankruptcy is concerned, I would do it in a heart beat if I needed to or knew that I could pull it off and still make millions. The guy is a business Einstein like it or not.
 
I do not believe he is successful . He is a con he uses other peoples money then when it runs out he files bankruptcy and tax payers flip the bill. He is exactly what the previous jack asses where crooks and cons. Why would anyone that is worth millions, spend millions to get into a position that pays less money than they make in a month. most would answer power and I say that is exactly the wrong person for that position. The government is a business and a successful business runs best with the right people in the right position.
 
Other peoples money? Havent you ever borrowed to buy a house,truck business loan? He does the same exact thing just on a larger scale. I would vote him in today if I had to. We need someone in office that, for one, has had a payroll in the REAL world and two knows what it will take to pull this country out of the bowls that it is in today. We dont need some politically correct moron back in office. I love this country and dam we are losing it to the muslums. Think im wrong! 1200 churches closed there doors last year in the north east and 2300 mosks were built!!! Scarry huh? WTF weres that border patrol!!!
 
innovativewash said:
Other peoples money? Havent you ever borrowed to buy a house,truck business loan? He does the same exact thing just on a larger scale. I would vote him in today if I had to. We need someone in office that, for one, has had a payroll in the REAL world and two knows what it will take to pull this country out of the bowls that it is in today. We dont need some politically correct moron back in office. I love this country and dam we are losing it to the muslums. Think im wrong! 1200 churches closed there doors last year in the north east and 2300 mosks were built!!! Scarry huh? WTF weres that border patrol!!!
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in our pres owns words as far as muslims are concerned

"I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction."


yep we know whear he stands, how in the world did anybody vote for this guy read his bood and you will see for yourself what a raciest he is, he hates us
 
Kory said:
I do not believe he is successful . He is a con he uses other peoples money then when it runs out he files bankruptcy and tax payers flip the bill. He is exactly what the previous jack asses where crooks and cons. Why would anyone that is worth millions, spend millions to get into a position that pays less money than they make in a month. most would answer power and I say that is exactly the wrong person for that position. The government is a business and a successful business runs best with the right people in the right position.
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Trump's political stances included the following:[69]

Pro-life[67]
Anti-gun control[67]
Advocates for the repeal and replacement of Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act[67]
Anti-foreign aid[67]
Supports a fair trade policy and believes generally that the People's Republic of China should be considered more of an adversarial competitor, subjected to significant import tariffs as a response to China's currency policy in order to help balance the U.S. budget.[70][71]
Believes the U.S. should disengage in Iraq and Afghanistan[72]

I can live with this !!
 
Kory said:
I do not believe he is successful . He is a con he uses other peoples money then when it runs out he files bankruptcy and tax payers flip the bill. He is exactly what the previous jack asses where crooks and cons. Why would anyone that is worth millions, spend millions to get into a position that pays less money than they make in a month. most would answer power and I say that is exactly the wrong person for that position. The government is a business and a successful business runs best with the right people in the right position.
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+1

He plays the system. That doesn't make him a good businessman.

That's the reason our country is in the shape it's in now. We have enough system players running things. And some of us look up to them as if that defines success and try to emulate that.

His kind have always been around, but it was just over the past 30 years that doing business that way has become accepted and even admired.

We don't need more of that in this country. He needs to go broke and be flat out on his a** like the 39 employees he knocked out of a single small business like yours and mine. Walt Disney went bankrupt a few times. He did it by trial and error, not by design. Trump isn't even in his league.

But again, if he runs against Obama I'll try to vote for him twice.
 
innovativewash said:
Other peoples money? Havent you ever borrowed to buy a house,truck business loan? He does the same exact thing just on a larger scale. I would vote him in today if I had to. We need someone in office that, for one, has had a payroll in the REAL world and two knows what it will take to pull this country out of the bowls that it is in today. We dont need some politically correct moron back in office. I love this country and dam we are losing it to the muslums. Think im wrong! 1200 churches closed there doors last year in the north east and 2300 mosks were built!!! Scarry huh? WTF weres that border patrol!!!
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I have barrowed money and still owe money on one house and a truck. But I paid my other house and cars and trucks off with MY hard earned money! I never stuck some one else with the bill. Forget the con man get a real business man like Warren buffet. Chritianity may be loosing to Muslims but america is loosing it's strong hold due to many more reasons like laziness, obesity, poor education, career politicians, greed, gluttony, welfare, high insurance, lobbyist, healthcare, lack of jobs because labor is cheaper in other countries. Everything is part of a circle of life and if you do not have balance it will come back and bite you in the ass! We are paying for poor decisions. Let me drop a little knowledge on you. Circuit city was the place to shop for many years they lost there strong hold to bestbuy. People would go to circuit city and get the knowledge from commissioned trained employees then go to best buy and buy a similar item for a little cheaper from a person who could not answer their questions. Fast forward and no best buy is loosing its foot hold to Internet sales. That's right people go to best buy to see a product then go order it online to save money. Saving money is great but at what cost? When best buy shuts down and there is not a local major retail to get a large selection of products from What will you do? Spend a couple thousand dollars on products you have not seen or heard or where able to compare. There is a great book called freakinomics that can show you how to look at more than what is in plain sight.

As far as Obama we only have ourselves to blam. I didn't vote for him! And if you did not vote you have no room to complain. To many voted based on color and party like the dumb americans we have become! Vote with your head and what your gut tells you. But don't think that your vote for president means crap the only way to change this country is to vote out every senate and congress person and start fresh. The president is a puppet to special interest and big business.
 
Tony Shelton said:
+1

He plays the system. That doesn't make him a good businessman.

That's the reason our country is in the shape it's in now. We have enough system players running things. And some of us look up to them as if that defines success and try to emulate that.

His kind have always been around, but it was just over the past 30 years that doing business that way has become accepted and even admired.

We don't need more of that in this country. He needs to go broke and be flat out on his a** like the 39 employees he knocked out of a single small business like yours and mine. Walt Disney went bankrupt a few times. He did it by trial and error, not by design. Trump isn't even in his league.

But again, if he runs against Obama I'll try to vote for him twice.
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+1 glad we are on the same page. (the chlorine must be getting to me)
 
Kory, saying "I dont believe he is succesful" is rediculous. Thats like Saying "I dont believe he is a man". of course he's successful, regardless of his methods he used to get him there. As for him being a con, prove it. Him working a system in a manner in which you disagree doesnt make him a con, maybe unethical in your viewpoint, but not a con. Until he does something ILLEGAL, I have nothing bad to say about his business. You dont think Warren buffet has paid people off/fired people? Of course he has. You dont get to be worth 50 billion without stepping on some toes.

And get real Kory and Tony, How many peoples mortgage does he help pay, how many people have health insurance because of him, how many peoples kids can go to college because of him? You can say "He knocked out 39 people" and villify him for it when you dont know how many people he employs. So you're telling me that if 1000 people rely on his business to pay their bills, and 39 people get fired in the process, that those 39 outweigh the 1000???? I dont think so. if trumps out on his ass broke, ALOT of people that he employs would be too.

You dont sound like very good capitalists to me. :)
 
I agree Warren Buffet would be a great president unfortunatly he is not running and knowing of him he never will. You are right about the lazyness of this countries people. Its so hard just to find young people to work a full season power washing. My average is 3-5 weeks. Any way I do vote and it wasnt for OBAMA. By the way, I have never met anyone who has!! Have you? We are pushing for CASH this year from our residential customers because we have had enough of everyone in our government spending our money the wrong way. We all should go to cash only then our government will have to trust us on how much to give them!!! Maybe the usa should only deal in cash. Like we used too. Just my 2cents.
 
do me a favor and tell me how he is successful other than that hot daughter he helped with and even that he can't take full credit for.
Scott D. said:
Kory, saying "I dont believe he is succesful" is rediculous. Thats like Saying "I dont believe he is a man". of course he's successful, regardless of his methods he used to get him there. As for him being a con, prove it. Him working a system in a manner in which you disagree doesnt make him a con, maybe unethical in your viewpoint, but not a con. Until he does something ILLEGAL, I have nothing bad to say about his business. You dont think Warren buffet has paid people off/fired people? Of course he has. You dont get to be worth 50 billion without stepping on some toes.

And get real Kory and Tony, How many peoples mortgage does he help pay, how many people have health insurance because of him, how many peoples kids can go to college because of him? You can say "He knocked out 39 people" and villify him for it when you dont know how many people he employs. So you're telling me that if 1000 people rely on his business to pay their bills, and 39 people get fired in the process, that those 39 outweigh the 1000???? I dont think so. if trumps out on his ass broke, ALOT of people that he employs would be too.

You dont sound like very good capitalists to me. :)
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Scott, he didn't fire those 39 people, he used their labor for almost a year to make a product for him then went bankrupt so he wouldn't have to pay their employer. Is that an acceptable way to keep 1000 employed?

What if an HOA group gave you enough work to keep you busy for a year so that you could barely take on any additional work then refused to pay you for the entire year's work using bankruptcy as their shield (while they continued on with business as usual making money like they always have?) I guess you'd just consider them "successful HOA managers" right?

Also:

Definition of CAPITALISM

: an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market

Capitalism does not include government incentives to force individuals to buy goods, not the means to buy goods without paying for them.

I believe in Capitalism. What we are living today is a perverted form of capitalism.
 
Kory, in the pure business sense? He's woth billions of dollars. He may be morally or emotionally poor, but nobody can doubt his wealth.

Tony, I'm not saying it wasn't shitty that that happened. Everyone does good and everyone does bad. You have to weigh the 2 against each other. I'm not even saying I know how much good he's done, I'm just saying you can't call him a POS without recognizing how many people rely on him to live their lives.
 
No doubt Buffett would be a great candidate if he was running, but he has his flaws as well. He was a huge Obama campaign contributor and he also has paid well below his share of income tax for a billionaire, that may not be bankrupcy but it's still is a form of cheating the government of monies owed. Look like I said before there is no perfect man or woman to run this country but there sure are a few that can do a great job.

Trump no doubt is a successful buisness man, there is no denying that obvious statement. How he got there might be questionable but thats how big buisness is done. If the Mafia was running this country it would be the richest most feared nation in the world, when they ran Vegas it was the Greatest City in the World. Now there just about bankrupt and you cant even get a free drink out there anymore !! Gangsters knew how to take care of people so they would keep comming back, but the new corruption of gangsters who run the country are selling us out every chance they get !!
 
Like I said in the earlier post I dont like Trump very much. But when it comes to business I believe he is sucessful but that is my opinion. Right or wrong I am entitled to it. But you cant just blame Trump for the 39 ppl loosing their jobs and the owner loosing his house and having to file bankruptcy. Correct me if Im wrong but didnt Ron say dont ever let one company be more then 20% of your income. From the sound of it thats what that company did. Its not Trumps fault that they didnt seek additional clients to offset the other 80%.

Yes car lots are my bread and butter, but if I lost the lot that pays our company $1600 a month, sure it would hurt but it wouldnt cause me to loose everything. My biggest customer is only 15% of my monthly total and I can and could survive if I lost them. And If i couldnt survive I wouldn't hold that lot responsible. Im out selling everyday just to offset the 100%. I loose one I pick one up. Its the nature of the beast. The drape company should have been doing the samething. I know I am only talking about $100's and not millions but it's the same principle. I also am aware that I don't know the whole story around why they lost their a**. Im just going by what I have read.
 
People voted for Obama on the premise of change. What change? He kept and appointed the same corrupt economists and financial advisors that caused the problem. Watch the documentary Inside Job and you'll get an idea how America has been robbed in broad daylight.


Some recent hijinks from the Combover Candidate:

Trump has been caught in the 2008 financial crisis as sales for his Trump International Hotel and Tower in Chicago have been lagging and he failed to pay a $40m loan to Deutsche Bank in December.<sup id="cite_ref-nyt_33-0" class="reference">[34]</sup> Arguing that the crisis is an Act of God, he evoked a clause in the contract to not pay the loan and initiated a countersuit asserting his image has been damaged.<sup id="cite_ref-nyt_33-1" class="reference">[34]</sup> Deutsche Bank has in turn noted in court that 'Trump is no stranger to overdue debt' and that he has twice previously filed for bankruptcy with respect to his casino operations.<sup id="cite_ref-nyt_33-2" class="reference">[34]</sup>
On February 17, 2009 Trump Entertainment Resorts filed for Chapter 11 Bankruptcy; Trump having stated on February 13 that he would resign from the board.<sup id="cite_ref-34" class="reference">[35]</sup> Trump Entertainment Resorts has three properties in Atlantic City.
He is just another swindler in a $5000 suit. Snoop Dogg said it best at his Roast:
It wouldn't be the first time you've pushed a black family out of their home."

I'd rather see Sarah Palin run. A momma grizzly is better than a slimy eel.
 
I'd say Trump made the best decisions with the tools and options he had in front of them. The decision making process regarding bankruptcy no doubt impacts a far greater number of people than a handful of women who sew drapes for his hotels. I'm not excusing the fact that the bankruptcy ultimately means something went wrong, but I don't fault him for taking that road when economy crashed and he no longer has the required income to continue financing two major projects if no one is leasing. I'd be willing to bet if it meant the difference between losing your own workforce and your own home and savings every one of you would choose bankruptcy if it meant you had a chance to retain some of that and have a shot at rebuilding....which Trump has managed to do on both occasions now.

I'm sure the other option is to simply shut down and liquidate or sell everything, resulting in thousands of layoffs and the potential of actually kicking people out of their homes. Some of you conspiracy nuts probably do believe this but unless Trump planned in advance to go into bankruptcy i fail to see how he is a con man or a swindler? Who exactly was swindled? Take responsibility for your own actions and your own investments, plenty of people chose to put money toward his projects including major banks, its business, its a risk and thankfully we have some semblance of a free market that allows companies to make those choices. No one has to finance his stuff...and after several bankruptcys I'm sure any lender would factor in the increased risk, so its hardly a win win for Trump.
 
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