Burning Qurans- Endangering Americans ?

Hey Tony what exactly were you doing when I was serving this country in the early 80's where my Amphibious ship was bringing in Some new Marines in Lebanon to protect our Freedoms and to defend our rights and make those who killed our Marines in the barracks pay for what they did.

What exactly was it that you were doing then and what credentials do you have today that makes you the such an expert on being Patriotic?? Please don't tell me your a couch potato news junkie that hasn't done anything significant for this country other than critique and criticize it and to also label all NYers such as myself as non patriotic? What have you done??
 
Hey Tony what exactly were you doing when I was serving this country in the early 80's where my Amphibious ship was bringing in Some new Marines in Lebanon to protect our Freedoms and to defend our rights and make those who killed our Marines in the barracks pay for what they did.

What exactly was it that you were doing then and what credentials do you have today that makes you the such an expert on being Patriotic?? Please don't tell me your a couch potato news junkie that hasn't done anything significant for this country other than critique and criticize it and to also label all NYers such as myself as non patriotic? What have you done??


I was serving on the USS Carl Vinson.

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Hey Tony what exactly were you doing when I was serving this country in the early 80's where my Amphibious ship was bringing in Some new Marines in Lebanon to protect our Freedoms and to defend our rights and make those who killed our Marines in the barracks pay for what they did.

What exactly was it that you were doing then and what credentials do you have today that makes you the such an expert on being Patriotic?? Please don't tell me your a couch potato news junkie that hasn't done anything significant for this country other than critique and criticize it and to also label all NYers such as myself as non patriotic? What have you done??


Early 80's I was working for a carnival, Having a great time. Prior to that... USAF. I preferred the carny life. (for a while) Lots of fun,..........
 
Before you get all up in arms about my previous post please read a little history. Here's a VERY quick synopsis.

America was a British colony. Under British rule. (Now America is under the rule of New York, Illinois, California, and other urban centered states)

Some found the rule objectionable and filled with Tyranny. (Now Americans are taxes and Laws are based on the tyranny of the populace of the above mentioned states)

Some rebelled (it's coming)

Supplies were cut off at first, then the killing began (Can you say MONTANA? or Militia?)

A FEW patriots who believed that GOD GIVEN RIGHTS supersede government "allowed" rights bucked the system (Where are those men now?)

One of them was Thomas Paine. While wacko in his religious beliefs (Lou can ya hear me?) later in his life, his writings inspired good men to rise up against their OWN country and birthed the greatest nation in the world. These same men set safeguards (via the constitution and the Bill of rights to ensure that the corrupt government that forced their hand could never raise it's ugly head here. Unfortunately today this solid document is looked at by the hijackers of our country as an "outdated" document based on 200 year old logic. They forget that history forgotten is destined to repeat itself. They also forgot that the ten commandments are over 3000 years old yet still stand as new as they were the day God struck them in the rocks with his own finger.

Am I radical? Am I "offensive"? Listen to Thomas Paine concerning those who valued the status quo and thought it better to NOT stand up against an out of control government:

From Common Sense:

Though I would carefully avoid giving unnecessary offence, yet I am inclined to believe, that all those who espouse the doctrine of reconciliation, may be included within the following descriptions. Interested men, who are not to be trusted, weak men who CANNOT see, prejudiced men who will not see, and a certain set of moderate men who think better of the European world than it deserves; and this last class, by an ill-judged deliberation, will be the cause of more calamities to this Continent than all the other three.
It is the good fortune of many to live distant from the scene of present sorrow; the evil is not sufficiently brought to their doors to make them feel the precariousness with which all American property is possessed. But let our imaginations transport us a few moments to Boston; that seat of wretchedness will teach us wisdom, and instruct us for ever to renounce a power in whom we can have no trust. The inhabitants of that unfortunate city who but a few months ago were in ease and affluence, have now no other alternative than to stay and starve, or turn out to beg. Endangered by the fire of their friends if they continue within the city and plundered by the soldiery if they leave it, in their present situation they are prisoners without the hope of redemption, and in a general attack for their relief they would be exposed to the fury of both armies.
Men of passive tempers look somewhat lightly over the offences of Great Britain, and, still hoping for the best, are apt to call out, "Come, come, we shall be friends again for all this." But examine the passions and feelings of mankind: bring the doctrine of reconciliation to the touchstone of nature, and then tell me whether you can hereafter love, honour, and faithfully serve the power that hath carried fire and sword into your land? If you cannot do all these, then are you only deceiving yourselves, and by your delay bringing ruin upon posterity. .................
This is not inflaming or exaggerating matters, but trying them by those feelings and affections which nature justifies, and without which, we should be incapable of discharging the social duties of life, or enjoying the felicities of it. I mean not to exhibit horror for the purpose of provoking revenge, but to awaken us from fatal and unmanly slumbers, that we may pursue determinately some fixed object. It is not in the power of Britain or of Europe to conquer America, if she do not conquer herself by delay and timidity.The present winter is worth an age if rightly employed, but if lost or neglected, the whole continent will partake of the misfortune; and there is no punishment which that man will not deserve, be he who, or what, or where he will, that may be the means of sacrificing a season so precious and useful.


Once again the time is now. We have an election coming up that could possibly START the taking back of our country. If not, then it is time to take it back by any means possible. We are held hostage by the 20th hijacker who has laid in wait all these years assimilating into our culture, rising up the political ladder to the pinnacle of the presidency groomed by traitors to this country and riding on the backs of the uninformed and uneducated citizenry who FORGOT history and are destined to repeat it.


I'm probably too old at this point to make much difference. I pray for a generation like that of Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Paine that will have the guts to take this country back.


Radical? Thanks. I'm in good company.

Well said Tony.
 
I think Tonys a little radical for the tea party group. Which I'm ok with because I am too. Lol
 
I was serving on the USS Carl Vinson.

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That explains it. Fellow Squid..lol Tony you would have loved to be in the 3"50 Gun mounts I was in back in Beriut Lebanon days. I was a first sight setter. Another words I helped line up the guns towards the target. There was around 5 of us in this mount. You can see the gun mount in this picture of my ship. http://bluejacket.com/usn/images/sp/lm/lpd15_ponce.jpg I was in the starboard side(Right side facing forward on the ship). Besides being in Condition Red most of the time and under orders pointing the guns towards Civilian jets that crossed over the no fly zone, most of the time thank God it was boring as heck being in the mount or sitting outside of it...but if you can picture this when we were in darken ship all you would see is the stars above.

You would have fit right in here because us 5 guys would be out in the dark debating or talking about anything. Next thing you know we would be all laying down looking at the sky and just yapping. Of course sometimes the debates would get so heated somebody would call us in the sound powered phones and say basically "SHUT UP DOWN THERE" lol because the enemy is going to pick up our big mouths..lol Today I'm sure they could.. But back then if we were ordered to fire I would have never had a problem doing my job. That Civilian Jet story happened more then once but this one particular time we were inminent in firing. The Cap't had us ready to fire....The next word from him would be either fire or not. A tense 5 minutes that seemed like a lifetime because in wartime with that Jet in complete violation of the no flyzone the 200+ aboard were about to pay a heavy price and us guys in that mount were in there because we would and could follow orders no matter what.

The last seconds contact was made with that Jet and they turned about as hard as a Jet can turn in the sky. The people on board probably had no idea that they were about to die & if we did shoot I would have no problem with that because it was the job I took on.

K boring story but the point is your debates would have fit right in with us in that crew.
 
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