About to start pressure cleaning gas stations! Need help with some pricing!!

Kevin don't take your ball and go home yet. Do really think these guys want to post their prices with legit competitors and low ball Home Depot PW in the trunk "contractors" out there lurking? You have to earn their respect. I had plenty of no response emails and PM's when I first started posting here. I think anyone that shares pricing on here is nuts. I also think that too much technical info is given away here.

This is coming from a guy that has shortened the learning curve and improved efficiency enormously by what I've learned on this board. So it's pretty hypocritical on my part. But so be it.

If you are thin skinned PWI may not be for you.
 
I think he got his feelings hurt, HOLLA !!
 
IndyExterior said:
Kevin don't take your ball and go home yet. Do really think these guys want to post their prices with legit competitors and low ball Home Depot PW in the trunk "contractors" out there lurking? You have to earn their respect. I had plenty of no response emails and PM's when I first started posting here. I think anyone that shares pricing on here is nuts. I also think that too much technical info is given away here.

This is coming from a guy that has shortened the learning curve and improved efficiency enormously by what I've learned on this board. So it's pretty hypocritical on my part. But so be it.

If you are thin skinned PWI may not be for you.
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Since I'm Crazy, Still do this Job

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Yeah, but you wouldn't post it if you did not love gas stations.
 
Dollarspa said:
Talked to Kevin 4 hours ago seems nice...





One quick point...he's not a preferred vendor ..(yet)

A company is trying to sell him a ad in a directory of ads that goes to a group of gas stations...




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Sounds like he is being sold a bill of goods and a slick salesman is using his lack of business acumen against him. Not necessarily false promises, but maybe close.
 
I was called to be a preferred vendor with a realtor. Cent21. They wanted 550 i think to put my name in with other companies into a folder and hand them to potential buyers/ renters. I passed, thank god I did, the local cen21 office shut down this month.
 
Russ Spence said:
No, they are in three states but not Loves, I do like the Loves though, they have great stuff and usually a good fast food area as well
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Yeah we have Love's truck stops all over Texas. I always stop in a browse the goodies. And yeah they do always seem to have a good fast food chain inside them.
 
Mark (Weldor) and Dewayne (parrothead) you both 100% correct with your post. I did not have the heart to tell him that last night when I talked to him.



as a side note he currently charges well above the average per hour (100 dollars hour plus) ..... Yikes more than me.

I think he was just trying to get other ideas.....Holla :wave2:
 
Kevin Freeman said:
Hey mod just go ahead and delete me! Try and get some honest advice and people want to bash on me so I'm out! HOLLA!
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Kevin are you requesting to to be allowed to duck run? Dude at least leave some of us with the illusion you have a set!


If you can't handle it here, what hope will you have out there?
 
Dollar spa said:
Mark (Welder) and Dewayne (parrot head) you both 100% correct with your post. I did not have the heart to tell him that last night when I talked to him.



as a side note he currently charges well above the average per hour (100 dollars hour plus) ..... Yikes more than me.

I think he was just trying to get other ideas.....Holla :wave2:
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That should be the minimum, rate that we should all be working for, $135.00 1 complete rig, 2 people is a mark that we try to stay at or above, but have the last 2 months blown that average away and been much higher due to alot of emergency work. But as we all know it is just a fluke run, not the standard rule.

But why not $100.00 plus, that is number that ALL contractors should strive for. And you need to have a minimum of 40 billable hours per week, at this point we could collectively shift the market to a more sensible and more sustainable market, I believe with higher numbers we can change the buyers philosophy with the numbers, just think about it, the customers perception is as we all know is molded around price, so what if you were to raise that price to a number that seems so high to him that he is thinking about what makes you different from the $35.00 guy, the insurance argument and workers comp argument only goes so far, the customer hears that alot, you need to find a way to separate yourself and your higher asking price from the others with what? Just ask yourself, and hopefully you will see it right in front of you!@!@

As a disclaimer in no way am I or would I promote any collusion actions with my statements, so DOJ, take a step back and chill. What I am saying is opinion, not meant to entice or teach any such actions.
 
swrest said:
That should be the minimum, rate that we should all be working for, $135.00 1 complete rig, 2 people is a mark that we try to stay at or above, but have the last 2 months blown that average away and been much higher due to alot of emergency work. But as we all know it is just a fluke run, not the standard rule.

But why not $100.00 plus, that is number that ALL contractors should strive for. And you need to have a minimum of 40 billable hours per week, at this point we could collectively shift the market to a more sensible and more sustainable market, I believe with higher numbers we can change the buyers philosophy with the numbers, just think about it, the customers perception is as we all know is molded around price, so what if you were to raise that price to a number that seems so high to him that he is thinking about what makes you different from the $35.00 guy, the insurance argument and workers comp argument only goes so far, the customer hears that alot, you need to find a way to separate yourself and your higher asking price from the others with what? Just ask yourself, and hopefully you will see it right in front of you!@!@

As a disclaimer in no way am I or would I promote any collusion actions with my statements, so DOJ, take a step back and chill. What I am saying is opinion, not meant to entice or teach any such actions.
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Okay, I want to hire you ...Joe I was going to suggest you come to dallas for a couple of days and sell... I think I have a compromise ...Start working the phones from Florida .....call and sell all these jobs (over the phone here in Dallas) for what you can..... I will send you 25% the same day I do the job and get Paid. Western union or moneygram like clockwork...Oh and I will pay you everytime even if its a weekly monthly quarterly...for as long as I have the account. I went Fulltime September1,2010...:wave2:
 
Too funny, KEVIN has already disposed himself from the forum.

WHO online has been paid to do a job prior to doing a job to be paid for?

Who hasn't had to present their self as a "professional pressure washing contractor" PRIOR to getting their first REAL BIG/REAL time washing gig???

If you have, congratulations. It doesn't change a thing. You still lied to get the job.

As it reads to me..after added comments...Kevin is trying to grow his business, he seeks advice for pricing, did he mention reclaim? nope...his short coming...Did we ask if he is insured? These are all things any newcomer needs to notice/remember. Don't chastise the dude...you NEVER know if he has someone in his back pocket to make life better for him or worse for you.

I believe the phrase is "due diligence" do it. do it twice...its more enjoyable...although its more time consuming the second time.

Sadly I think guys are too honest sometimes... I would have posted this as "Hey guys, I have a chance to advertise in a vendor catalog"

good luck kevin...if your out there.
 
I have turned down those catalog guys before.The sell is you will be a preferred vendor but what the reality is is you are just a name in a brochure on a table.The replies probably saved the guy some money but he doesn't even realize it.

The double edged sword is these boards create the people who cut our prices with OUR FREE advice.They read a couple of posts and go out and sell themselves as washers and take away jobs from the same guys that told them how to do it.
 
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