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It appears DJ simply has a lack of credibility. There is only one way to fix the credibility problem.

John T needs to give him a plaque of some sort and start calling him the "sales doctor". He can take on a leadership position at the Pw#a and all will be fixed. Credibility problem solved. And oh, yeah, Al needs to cry some more.
 
It appears DJ simply has a lack of credibility. There is only one way to fix the credibility problem.

John T needs to give him a plaque of some sort and start calling him the "sales doctor". He can take on a leadership position at the Pw#a and all will be fixed. Credibility problem solved. And oh, yeah, Al needs to cry some more.


And you need to come around more often...miss ya...how ya been.
 
Maybe just delete the thread as it is not helping anyone and might end up costing someone some money?
 
Maybe just delete the thread as it is not helping anyone and might end up costing someone some money?

Seriously?

Because a small group doesn't agree with me or my views, so I refuse to respond to their radical attacks, as that would do nothing to advance me or anyone in the thread towards their goals, you say it should just be deleted?

If that is what these BB's have come to they are a far cry from what they were when I started out 6 years ago!

Hope everyone has a great day!
 
Personally I find your videos interesting & informative DJ, as I have your presentations over the years. While I understand your system is geared more towards "Professional Sales People" I can see where business owners in this Industry can get a lot of useful information from them.

Sales systems or ideas can be modified to work for any business...........It's all about how you use the information.
 
As an outsider looking in it looks like a personal agenda here between Ron and dj. I could be wrong but just reading the thread that's what it looks like. I am not here to defend either one so do not take it as such. I feel that you can pick and choose what you want to apply to your sales approach and customize it to your abilities.
Sales to me is getting our customers to like and trust you then we can sell the service.
 
Exactly Guy! Couldn't agree more! I call it the triple dark - You don't know, what you don't know, what you don't know.

Thanks for the positive comment and I'm glad you like the videos - many more to come this year! 2015 is going to be my best year yet!

Here's to our success Guy!

My comments are not negative , they are challenging you. I personally think you don't have a clue at mastermind. I think while we all have egos and feelings yours should be different.

If you think living in the world of positive mind set is not about debate or re/thinking this is why you hit a dead end.

Dj prior to you telling a guy here he can't sell which by the way is not only negative but disrespectful I was your largest supporter.

I allowed you to fix this , do you recall the reply?

You see , not being able to repair a 8 year relations with you largest supporter worries me. Burning bridges is a dangerous game. You don't have a clue at the leads I sent you. You didn't ask!!

I also got you 30 or 40 referrals sheets for your qualification. Reflecting back a good sales person would have stroked a nice thank you card by hand. Not a generic video you send to all people.

You have no real edge, you don't live this game. I can see this clearly. It's all bs to you, snap a credit card pump a guy up move on to the next guy.

Sorry I'm through running your game, you shown disrespect for colleagues around you. Rally with the haters keep listening to the positive thinking tapes and make believe what I know isn't truth. That's a path to no where!!




Ron Musgraves
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As an outsider looking in it looks like a personal agenda here between Ron and dj. I could be wrong but just reading the thread that's what it looks like. I am not here to defend either one so do not take it as such. I feel that you can pick and choose what you want to apply to your sales approach and customize it to your abilities.
Sales to me is getting our customers to like and trust you then we can sell the service.

Mike you can pick sides, we can still be buddy's. I don't take things personal often. Truth is I'm harsh but I liked Dj. Why would I have had him speak in AC. Right?


He was rude to Scott stone ,I gave him opportunity to fix. He basically said F off.

I can't support the guy any longer. Simple

He apparently thinks my support doesn't matter. That's his opinion , he traded my support for a f u.

So that's like insulting your best customer, then the customer asked you about it. You see what you said was bone headed. You fix and move forward. Dj elected to terminate


Ron Musgraves
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Some might say just ban him, we don't ban folks just because we don't agree or dislike them. Some here would like DJ and even Al banned. Making bad choices doesn't mean you can't change, we only hope Al one day would see the mistakes he's made and share them instead of making excuses. We hopes because it would help others not make those mistakes. I only hope Dj only the best, maybe one day when he gets this. He will come back and say. Or maybe he will rub all his success in our face.

Then we can say I made a poor judgement. You bet I will say it , life's to short to hide from your mistakes. You won't learn by not facing them.



Ron Musgraves
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Ron I am certainly no expert in sales when it comes to commercial. I know you know your chit. As far as commercial sales help I would go to you or Scott first before anyone. We are still friends big guy.

Michael when Dj said Scott couldn't sell after 8 years of telling many people give this kid a chance he proved me wrong.


Ron Musgraves
www.uamcc.org
 
Seriously?

Because a small group doesn't agree with me or my views, so I refuse to respond to their radical attacks, as that would do nothing to advance me or anyone in the thread towards their goals, you say it should just be deleted?

If that is what these BB's have come to they are a far cry from what they were when I started out 6 years ago!

Hope everyone has a great day!

Does anyone else feel like maybe this thread was started for a self serving agenda? I'm not interested in the who's, or why's.... But my gut tells me that maybe this thread was started to get a negative reaction from certain people or A PERSON. I agree with the deletion of the thread as it (from an uninformed point of view) makes Ron look like he is attacking DJ, and makes DJ look like a victim. And if someone were to desire to show others this negative side of Ron & this board they could simply say "type this into Google and see for yourself".


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Does anyone else feel like maybe this thread was started for a self serving agenda? I'm not interested in the who's, or why's.... But my gut tells me that maybe this thread was started to get a negative reaction from certain people or A PERSON. I agree with the deletion of the thread as it (from an uninformed point of view) makes Ron look like he is attacking DJ, and makes DJ look like a victim. And if someone were to desire to show others this negative side of Ron & this board they could simply say "type this into Google and see for yourself".


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No I simply made a Mistake, I back DJ which apparently he as a Sales person doesn't even realize or was not Aware of. Which sorta seems comical if your a Sales Coach.

All aside DJ is no victim, maybe he will learn. Scott & Tony Have both tried to tell me he's not all that good. I tried to believe one day he would grow. Now I feel guilty because I lead so many to him and Can see they got Poor information. Possibly in my opinion damaging.

I wonder if I offered those I sent opportunity to refund how many there might be?

Let me take it further, we have had so many Conmen here Lately its Crazy. When people get hustled out of there money they are often to afraid to admit they been had.


I know from the recent Chain of events no one Burns the Lead generator unless theres going to possibly be fall out.

Maybe he has gotten poor Feed back and knows, his Old mentor & He parted?????? I thought maybe this was personal growth, maybe there is more to this?

Regardless , my expert Opinion on Sales DJ does not have the stuff to be Coaching any place around me or in association. (HE WAS POLITELY asked to Stop)

This Blog isn't going anyplace. If a person Googles DJ they can see for themselves he is a man who cannot only handle objections but have no real ability to believe in his own Coaching methods of how to over come.

Dialog with me on a Forum...How Dangerous can this be for a PRO coach to answer a few question?


DJ has his Strengths,we all do. Being able to recognizes weaknesses are just as important. If you look Back for as far as time goes here DJ himself is not coachable.
 
Phones on, DJ has my Number, he wants to fix the problem I demand a Public Apology to the BBS & Scott Personally.

This won't mean I will Support him again, but it will serve a purpose when a Mans wrong he has to be willing to make it right. That would mean a bunch.
 
Does anyone else feel like maybe this thread was started for a self serving agenda? I'm not interested in the who's, or why's.... But my gut tells me that maybe this thread was started to get a negative reaction from certain people or A PERSON. I agree with the deletion of the thread as it (from an uninformed point of view) makes Ron look like he is attacking DJ, and makes DJ look like a victim. And if someone were to desire to show others this negative side of Ron & this board they could simply say "type this into Google and see for yourself".


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DJ has made the rounds posting these on many forums for the sole purpose of selling his Sales Coaching services. Just as I do when I advertise my school on all the forums. Yes it is a self serving thread, just as my school threads area, and IMO of ALL threads are on a forum.

We all run the risk of being questioned. We all have the freedom to question, (at least on PWI you do), We all can choose to answer, and we all can choose to ignore questions. We also are given the opportunity to come to whatever conclusion we need too about the people questioning, answering, and not answering.

While I don't believe, and this is only my opinion, that DJ started the thread to cause a reaction from Ron, I do believe he knew he would get one, and made a conscious decision that he was going to ignore Ron. Which tells me all I need to know, what a great teaching opportunity lost...by the Coach.

I'll also say this, I learned a lot about sales in this thread, and I didn't watch the videos.

One last comment, I hate SALES. Probably why I never do it.
 
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