Window Cleaning Certification. Good idea or not?

danwagner

New member
Despite the sarcasm I'll answer you Dan. If you believe strongly enough you promote the benefits of your being certified to the customer just like you would flout your 28 years of experience.

Although I can wax sarcastic, what I asked it what I meant and your answer confirms it.
So again, promoting my certification and/or years experience would in my case could hypothetically be 100% genuine. But unless it truly worthy of its claim and builds enough confidence in the prospect, it's still just a marketing technique.
Even though most of us seem to agree that the BBB is not a real indication of how professional a member is, it commands a lot of respect among much of the public sector. Nobody in 28 years (that I recall) has asked me if I belong to it.
 

danwagner

New member
Sometimes that's true.........................
So let me get this straight- how does a window cleaner who has less than 5 years in the business get a UAMCC certification?
 

mistersqueegee

New member
Sometimes that's true.........................
So let me get this straight- how does a window cleaner who has less than 5 years in the business get a UAMCC certification?

From the UAMCC website -
If over 5 years we will accept these documents:
-Business License
-Incorporation Documents
-Secretary of State
-Trademarks
-Membership to Industry BBS (Including the UAMCC)
-Bank letter
-Insurance Co Letter
If under 5 years but more than 1 year in business, please post documentation of outside training plus any of the above documents. Minimum of 5 hours outside training in the field of requested certification including safety practices, field techniques, or general knowledge pertaining to the certification. Documents we will accept:
-PWNA boot Camps
-IKECA training
-OSHA Training
-IWCA Training
-Contractors Foundation
-SoftWash Systems
-Pressure Cleaning School
-Power Wash University
-Mr Squeegee University
-Personal Contractor training & Mentoring
-Industry events if the event organizer is willing to write the letter of completion on Stationery or Business of event group.
 

danwagner

New member
I saw that. So one would have to attend Mr. Squeegee University? What if my new employee nor I can't afford to send him to Iowa?
 

mistersqueegee

New member
I saw that. So one would have to attend Mr. Squeegee University? What if my new employee nor I can't afford to send him to Iowa?

Since that was a long list of options I think it's very telling that you chose to make this response?
I was trying to be helpful in answering your question and you seem to want to make it personal.
 

danwagner

New member
I don't know that any of the others listed give window cleaning training.
So are there other options besides MSU?
 

mistersqueegee

New member
How about any of the events around the country that have window cleaning demos and training, IWCA training, or personal mentoring. All those were listed as well or did you not see them?
 

danwagner

New member
How about any of the events around the country that have window cleaning demos and training, IWCA training, or personal mentoring. All those were listed as well or did you not see them?
Say I went to an event that had a window cleaning training. What would be the minimum training I would have to prove I received in order to get a certificate? Let's say, hypothetically, I went to an event where the organizer wrote up for me a letter of completion. Are there key things I would absolutely have to have done or been exposed to for him to provide this for me? Would said organizer have to be certified him/herself?
 

mistersqueegee

New member
If you look back at the UAMCC info I quoted earlier it says 5 hours in the field you are looking to get certified in. As far as what you are exposed to they should be educational and not sales related presentations and demonstrations in the field you want to be certified in.
While it would be nice to have the instructors certified hopefully industry event organizers are using experienced instructors as presenters. This is an area where you should contact Bill Booz or another BOD member of the UAMCC to find out if the event you are going to would fit the criteria.
 

Ron Musgraves

Exterior Restoration Specialist
Staff member
Dan all our training is third party, no real certifying body does both. As it is now we accept nearly all safety OSHA an other industry related training who are willing to give a completion cert with hours or sign off personally.


The mentor program also can be sufficient as long as the trainer will state they completed x amount if time.

The process of qualifications makes it vary difficult for a phony to pass.


Yes the standard of recertification are increasing as Well.

The process is from what I've seen much better than most programs.


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Ron Musgraves

Exterior Restoration Specialist
Staff member
The Uamcc under my guard will not have in house instructors for anything other than free safety an member mentor ship. All ANSI is out sourced programs along with issa

Reality is these just make people better an give consumers peace that Uamcc members are held to standards an practices. This doesn't mean anyone certified is better than a Vetran of 30 years who is not. Just a tool at which a consumer an the industry has a set of qualification being met.


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mistersqueegee

New member
I think one big issue is eluding some here - an educated contractor is a better contractor. Now you can get that education many ways and in many places but the UAMCC is making sure there is a standard to the education and that it's verifiable to the consumer. Not just the contractor in front of the customer saying "yeah I know what I'm doing" but a national org behind that contractor saying "yeah he knows what he's doing".
 

Ron Musgraves

Exterior Restoration Specialist
Staff member
This is what I was referring to Ron - Minimum of 5 hours outside training in the field of requested certification including safety practices, field techniques, or general knowledge pertaining to the certification.

It's 8 hours under five years


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