FORCED To Reclaim on Fundraiser Car Wash

3 property managers called me today, one contractor called me (left a message), I called him back, a retail store manager called me numerous times

... I feel special :) :eek:

the property managers were for pool related stuff - really no big deal.

contractor called because I was inquiring about equipment for sale.

... and the retail store manager... well, that was my better half calling - to say 'hi'.... :D

:confused::rolleyes:

Spoke to someone the other day about this subject - I would like to see us getting on the same page, there are individuals in positions to influence policy and collectively we can at least educate each other on the realities we are facing... :rolleyes:
 
Ron Musgraves said:
http://www.sactostormwater.org/documents/brochures/PressureWasherBMPs.pdf

You should read these

http://www.sacramentostormwater.org/SSQP/documents/PressureWashing_BMPs_June04.pdf

http://www.saws.org/conservation/Ordinance/PowerWash/Power_Washing_Guide.pdf

Chapter 4 BMPs for Commercial and <WBR>Industrial Activities

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http://www.slideshare.net/rahsco3/charlotte-43009

http://www.lawrenceks.org/public_works/storm_pressurewash
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Has anyone read this? as some may know, this is the Sacramento BMP for pressure washing. It is considered middle of the line in being restrictive in N. California.

http://www.sacramentostormwater.org/...MPs_June04.pdf


Before correcting me, you should read this in full. I did.
 
I was advised to clarify something again......

I DO NOT SUPPORT filtration of a sidewalk.

If you are cleaning a gas pad.... that is different. If there is oil, a filter should be used. If you are cleaning a Parking structure, that is different, again a filter should be used and disposed of into the local sanitary sewer.

If you are using caustic, soap etc, a filter should be used and disposed of into the sanitary sewer and NOT the storm drain.
 
Thank you Rush Limbaugh for your kind words today. I'm sorry I had to go after 4 hours on the phone, but I needed to take a poopie. I was happy to hear that you support me in everything I say on these boards. Once again, thanks for your call. :D:D:D
 
Kory said:
No one called me today. Damn what a looser...... I need a looser Little Dude for this post.
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Here ya go Kory. I had to steal this little Dude. Shushhh,,, Don't tell anyone.
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Let me ask a question here. If this stuff that we (the cleaners) remove from the surface is so bad why dont they go after or have inforcement for how it got there or who made it in the first place. Oh yeah because of big business the ones who hold the puppet strings and call the shots in our government. Its a classic head fake. Lets see what piss-ants we can put the blame on.
 
So you guys really know Jims filter trailer looks similar to Scott Stones setup on steroids. It's about 25 feet long and filled with different levels of filtration and mostly 2-3 inch pipe. He does have a big diesel generator on it, some hi capacity pool pumps and a huge tank with crap in it.

(I'm sure all that stuff has proper names, but I'm just describing it as I saw it.)
 
Tony Shelton said:
So you guys really know Jims filter trailer looks similar to Scott Stones setup on steroids. It's about 25 feet long and filled with different levels of filtration and mostly 2-3 inch pipe. He does have a big diesel generator on it, some hi capacity pool pumps and a huge tank with crap in it.

(I'm sure all that stuff has proper names, but I'm just describing it as I saw it.)
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LOL way to put his personal stuff out there. One question who measured it?????
 
Jim@Garagecleaning said:
Has anyone read this? as some may know, this is the Sacramento BMP for pressure washing. It is considered middle of the line in being restrictive in N. California.

http://www.sacramentostormwater.org/...MPs_June04.pdf


Before correcting me, you should read this in full. I did.
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Ron and Jim....there is an '08 version to the Sacramento Guidelines. I think you two are referencing the '04 version. I will see if I can upload it...it is a pretty big PDF file.
 
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Are we the bad guys?

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It feels in many ways that 'we' are treated like the bad guys, contaminating our nation, poisoning the water supply. When talking about outdoor cleaning, if we didn't show up or do anything - ITS ALL GOING DOWN THE STORMDRAIN!

And to the property owner, we're the one who's going to get them a huge fine!

We didn't make the mess. If we remove one speck of contamination, we're allready in the plus column!

In areas subjected to rain that drain to US waterways, shouldn't the city encourage us to remove CONTAMINANTS - NOT 'WATER' -from the property?

Work - Filter - Release With less pollution than was allready there

For regular commercial property that gets rained on how about a tax or fee which goes down with any recovery and filtering done. What a boost for our market! We actually save the owners money by having our service! Encouragement instead of threats and punishment. And cleaner water. We'll be filtering our butts off! That type of cost would get passed to the tennants and then passed to the consumers (all of us) who are responsible for the mess. After all it's just a byproduct of normal everyday life.

I hope the UAMCC and anyone else representing us will take as a cause the promotion of our industry as the 'good' guys, cleaning up the world.
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Tom Cusick
Liquid Heat
Tucson Arizona 520-247-3944
 
tomtucson said:
Re-post

Are we the bad guys?

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It feels in many ways that 'we' are treated like the bad guys, contaminating our nation, poisoning the water supply. When talking about outdoor cleaning, if we didn't show up or do anything - ITS ALL GOING DOWN THE STORMDRAIN!

And to the property owner, we're the one who's going to get them a huge fine!

We didn't make the mess. If we remove one speck of contamination, we're allready in the plus column!

In areas subjected to rain that drain to US waterways, shouldn't the city encourage us to remove CONTAMINANTS - NOT 'WATER' -from the property?

Work - Filter - Release With less pollution than was allready there

For regular commercial property that gets rained on how about a tax or fee which goes down with any recovery and filtering done. What a boost for our market! We actually save the owners money by having our service! Encouragement instead of threats and punishment. And cleaner water. We'll be filtering our butts off! That type of cost would get passed to the tennants and then passed to the consumers (all of us) who are responsible for the mess. After all it's just a byproduct of normal everyday life.

I hope the UAMCC and anyone else representing us will take as a cause the promotion of our industry as the 'good' guys, cleaning up the world.
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Tom Cusick
Liquid Heat
Tucson Arizona 520-247-3944
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Tom, I think you had a brain fart and just suggested a new additional tax and more government involvement.......I forgive you...:D
 
Russ Spence said:
why didnt you just pm him or did you just want everyone to know you talked to him?

Ok I can play too, I spoke with Ron, Richard Fleming and Mike Cooke today !
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Well I talked to Billy Mays today, Ronco is coming out with a new filtration System for 3 small payments of $19.95 and $15,000 S&H
 
I got to talk to Robert H., Probably before you did Jim. hahaha

I also got to talk to the famous Larry M., for those of you that don't know him, he is causing a large media circus around florida with his shopvac reclaim system showing others how to clean the proper way, how to not let contaminants go down the stormwater drain and how to do this inexpensively so everyone can do this.

Great talk Larry, Thanks. hahahahahahaha
 
Russ Spence said:
I just got back from a meeting downtown on this issue, we are working together to make sure that this does not get out of hand, I hate having to tote this equipment around!

I have to have it for a few locations, could I do without the locations? YES! But if I give them up I stand to loose 30 others! So I just grin and bare it. :( (for now)
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Been there, done that, 18 years ago. So if your area is just now trying to stop it, at least for us, it did not happen.

So if you can't beat them, join in. Your 18 years late with this post.
 
I am glad to see this response. I hope that others join in on this as well. I do not want to see this restriction go any further then it has already gone. I wish we had the support that is shown here, 18 years ago. Maybe California would have adopted less stricter actions. But that is water under the bridge for us.

One thing is that when I post about our requirements here in Cali, allot of companies who do not reclaim currently, join in and want to fight against this.


If you can lower the Federal, State, County and City requirements for discharge, especially when they are working successfully for years in other states..... My hat is off to ya.

I have went to the city counsel. I went to the state congressman, i went to our senators. I wrote letters, brought docs, argued about the dilution rates etc. till they just did not listen anymore. But there again I was just one voice.

Again, if we are going to fight this, we will need more than just 800 people saying we want these requirements to be lessened not to mention the costs to fight this. It would be cheaper to just buy the oil boom and comply.
 
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