wow ... alexa numbers JUMPED !!

Alexa is really worthless for our type of business. A person has to have the alexa toolbar attached to their browser. The people that use alexa are primarily more the computer geek type. (webmasters and such)
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I'm surprised you say that!!! Ken, alexa is used by wall street investors and is regonized in the web arena as being it!!!!!!!!


Anyone can set a random hitter on anysite and make false traffic. cant forged thousands of IP adresses. ( not easily)

I have heard the claims in the past about false numbers, if this is so simple and the numbers are false here why cant others prove it and duplicate it?

I personally do nothing but visit this site a couple times a week. I barley put any effort into the site much less false hitters to affect a number I dont even care about.

PWI was the number #1 PW site at one time. Delco was number 1 when PWI took the lead. it has dropped over the years but remains stable at a certain number hitting it everyday.
 
pressurepros said:
Did you do anything different?.. does your site suddenly suck?.. Alexa is goofball. The number of people using it is actually declining. I consider it spyware. Say it with me, Russ. Fug Alexa!
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A couple questions, what do you use then Ken? Next do you have your own stats on your site?

PWI is being monitored by our own customized readings. My guys dont like alexa either. if theres a better source then lets hear it.

I think traffic can go up and down and i believe they monitor it. Russ got hits from this thread. the main people that surfed hear are not hitting it again.

If Russ makes another link somewhere new the people will hit the site and Alexa will count them.

Nothings perfect or completely acurate other than your own.

This is the best independant form or counting I have found.

Please tell us a better one and I'm all for it.
 
Ron Musgraves said:
A couple questions, what do you use then Ken? Next do you have your own stats on your site?

PWI is being monitored by our own customized readings. My guys dont like alexa either. if theres a better source then lets hear it.

I think traffic can go up and down and i believe they monitor it. Russ got hits from this thread. the main people that surfed hear are not hitting it again.

If Russ makes another link somewhere new the people will hit the site and Alexa will count them.

Nothings perfect or completely acurate other than your own.

This is the best independant form or counting I have found.

Please tell us a better one and I'm all for it.
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Ron,

It doesn't have to be more technical than this three part plan.

1) Open Google and type in keywords people are going to use to find your site. Lets use PWI.. someone might use "pressure washing message board", "pressure washing info" or just "pressure washing". Where do you rank for those keywords? If you are on the first page, you are doing well regardless of what Alexa or any URL estimator tells you. (I found your board on page three and further down using those terms)

2) Whats going on with your site?
-how many unique visitors per day?
-how many people return?
-are you harvesting email addresses?
-what's your conversion rate?
Use a stat counting program and monitor where people are coming from, how many pages they view, how long they stay on your site, what keywords are they using to find you?

3) Count how much money you made from the site over the last week, month, year and plot it on a chart with comparisons to your company's overall income. Whats the trend? Where's your company going and what role does the website play in it? Your numbers will never lie to you.


All of this is geared towards one thing.. generating income. You have to understand, Ron, from an investors standpoint all that matters is what income is being generated or what income COULD be generated. Investors have pocket lint worth more than what anyone in this business's URL is worth. Not only that, a URL is not a business value. That's like me offering you $20,000 (or whatever your pressure washing machines are worth for your business. Its a small part of the overall picture.

Here is a page of links to tools I use http://www.seochat.com/seo-tools/
 
pressurepros said:
Ron,

It doesn't have to be more technical than this three part plan.

1) Open Google and type in keywords people are going to use to find your site. Lets use PWI.. someone might use "pressure washing message board", "pressure washing info" or just "pressure washing". Where do you rank for those keywords? If you are on the first page, you are doing well regardless of what Alexa or any URL estimator tells you. (I found your board on page three and further down using those terms)

2) Whats going on with your site?
-how many unique visitors per day?
-how many people return?
-are you harvesting email addresses?
-what's your conversion rate?
Use a stat counting program and monitor where people are coming from, how many pages they view, how long they stay on your site, what keywords are they using to find you?

3) Count how much money you made from the site over the last week, month, year and plot it on a chart with comparisons to your company's overall income. Whats the trend? Where's your company going and what role does the website play in it? Your numbers will never lie to you.


All of this is geared towards one thing.. generating income. You have to understand, Ron, from an investors standpoint all that matters is what income is being generated or what income COULD be generated. Investors have pocket lint worth more than what anyone in this business's URL is worth. Not only that, a URL is not a business value. That's like me offering you $20,000 (or whatever your pressure washing machines are worth for your business. Its a small part of the overall picture.

Here is a page of links to tools I use http://www.seochat.com/seo-tools/
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I completly agree with all said Ken.

I just think for free Alexa if you dont fool around with trying to play with numbers is a pretty good base.

Doing your own tracking is real. Keeping stats yourself from your own site is the best way.

I was actually surprised to see pwi 3 on Googles list. Interesting, as far as the money goes on PWI thats not trackable. I do understand that its a real stats on a money site.

I think we are kinda on the same page just looking at the picture different.

Alexa i realize is not perfect, its the best of the worst out there if that makes it better.

actually being on search engines are the best results for making money.

The problem PWI has if theres no motivation for anyone to care.
 
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