Who from PWI is registered to go to the Huntsville Workshop?

starbrite said:
Where the hell are we going, the inagural ball? The secrect service needs to have our background checks done and IDs printed before hand? LOL come on its a workshop
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Hey Robert why not take the sarcasm down a notch or 20. If you've never put on an event like this then you have no idea what it takes to do this. If the room for the workshop is only a certain size then it will only fit a certain amount of people, got to know how much printed (Or Whatever) material you'll need for each attendee.....etc. It ain't like this is the first time you have heard about this workshop, I think it's been said time and time again that There Is A Cut Off Date For The Workshop.

Commits like that are pretty disrespectful Robert, you have no idea how much work goes in to putting on one of these workshops.
 
Gary Mauer said:
I've actually had to deal with unregistered carloads coming that never showed.
I think this is a fair policy.
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You also invited others who never showed up! Such a shame


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I haven't had anyone show up and try to talk their way in.
Maybe I've just been lucky, but I do feel if there is to be a "moment of truth" its best to get that out of the way early.
 
Gary Mauer said:
I haven't had anyone show up and try to talk their way in.
Maybe I've just been lucky, but I do feel if there is to be a "moment of truth" its best to get that out of the way early.
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When you invite Folks to assist you treat them well, maybe you would be treated better yourself. Well I guess we all get treated how we treat others, lesson learned.

I'm just a guy that doesn't tolerate BS, I do not sell anything. Not going to ever Pay vendor Rate to attend a Show. I'm one of the guys in the industry who gives Freely and you invited me. As a Matter of Fact you asked me to speak I declined. I did say we could add some powerwashing when you asked me to, Paul agreed to attend and you should have charged him. Attempting to Charge me after you asked me waiting till you knew I had a non refundable room and 500.00 ticket you thought I would still come. Opps, the 1000.00 I waisted was worth not paying your fee Gary.

If I attend Jeremy's or who ever event this is I would always expect to pay. We do not run events and give free things away unless we say they are free.

Over the Last ten Years I wait to book Travel often the night before. My schedule might Change, so I will likely wait till the last minute to book a seat. If Jeramy had a Higher Price at the door I would be paying at the door.

Gary the reason I stepped off the aircraft for your event was because in my email I received a Bill from you. After Days before you took my registration. If your ever inviting someone for dinner or anything in the future its customary to pay for dinner. Especially if they are doing you a favor, I guess I will never assume grown men know how to run a business.
 
Gary Mauer said:
I haven't had anyone show up and try to talk their way in.
Maybe I've just been lucky, but I do feel if there is to be a "moment of truth" its best to get that out of the way early.
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When you invite Folks to assist you treat them well, maybe you would be treated better yourself. Well I guess we all get treated how we treat others, lesson learned.

I'm just a guy that doesn't tolerate BS, I do not sell anything. Not going to ever Pay vendor Rate to attend a Show. I'm one of the guys in the industry who gives Freely and you invited me. As a Matter of Fact you asked me to speak I declined. I did say we could add some powerwashing when you asked me to, Paul agreed to attend and you should have charged him. Attempting to Charge me after you asked me waiting till you knew I had a non refundable room and 500.00 ticket you thought I would still come. Opps, the 1000.00 I waisted was worth not paying your fee Gary.

If I attend Jeremy's or who ever event this is I would always expect to pay. We do not run events and give free things away unless we say they are free.

Over the Last ten Years I wait to book Travel often the night before. My schedule might Change, so I will likely wait till the last minute to book a seat. If Jeramy had a Higher Price at the door I would be paying at the door.

Gary the reason I stepped off the aircraft for your event was because in my email I received a Bill from you. After Days before you took my registration. If your ever inviting someone for dinner or anything in the future its customary to pay for dinner. Especially if they are doing you a favor, I guess I will never assume grown men know how to run a business.
 
>>>Attempting to Charge me after you asked me waiting till you knew I had a non refundable room and 500.00 ticket you thought I would still come. <<<

You ignored my attempt to charge you days earlier. You filled out the same registration form everyone else does - and stopped when you got to the payment part.
So - whatever spin you put on any of the rest of it, nobody tried to trap you.

I feel really fortunate - nobody ever wants to have issues like that to deal with when you're making last minute preparations.

BTW - when I said I'd had to deal with a carload that didn't show up, that wasn't about you.
This happened a couple of years ago when a guy called and said a carload of guys were to be driving over to the Picnic with him. I fell for the joke and wasted precious time and energy getting ready.
That's why I like the way Huntsville is working. I don't necessarily believe the hotel is putting their foot down on the numbers - but there's nothing wrong with asking people to commit.
 
Gary, the hotel and I BOTH need to know ahead of time exactly how many people will be there. The hotel is mainly staffed for weekday (its mainly a business class hotel who caters to people flying in for meetings) and are usually slow on weekends, so they need to staff appropriately to accommodate us. I know that they will definitely need to bring in more staffing for the restaurant also, so they need hard numbers. I also have 3 speakers who need to know exact numbers for promo material and handouts. This isn't something you run across town and do and most people will prepare to attend, hence why the cut off is this Sunday @ midnight so we and the hotel can staff.
 
Jeremy I completely get that, no worries if I attend you will have my Payment by friday. If I do not pay I understand there are no free-bees and was not expecting any from you. I realize this is for profit, nothing wrong with that either. The thing between Gary and I shouldn't even be in the thread. Apologize for that, just burns me when you're asked to do someone a favor and get burnt. Oh well, lessons learned.
Clear Shine said:
Gary, the hotel and I BOTH need to know ahead of time exactly how many people will be there. The hotel is mainly staffed for weekday (its mainly a business class hotel who caters to people flying in for meetings) and are usually slow on weekends, so they need to staff appropriately to accommodate us. I know that they will definitely need to bring in more staffing for the restaurant also, so they need hard numbers. I also have 3 speakers who need to know exact numbers for promo material and handouts. This isn't something you run across town and do and most people will prepare to attend, hence why the cut off is this Sunday @ midnight so we and the hotel can staff.
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No I didn't ignore you, I straight up said if you are charging me for Paul promoting Items I would not be there. Truthfully I was coming only to help you Gary as a Favor, your welcome by the way. I suppose I would have never received a Thanks. So I guess I'm fortunate I spent the money on the room and Flight for nothing anyway.

Your getting Poor info on me Gary, I spend money at events. Probably to much, I also was not worried about your fee's. It was a principal, you waiting till the last minute to confirm. You obviously where not clear you charge people to come and Speak. Thats ok because we charge them too, but we bill them when we invite or ask them immediately. for one we tell them right up front.

But so you know in advance, if you ever ask me to participate with your group I will send you and invoice by the hour. Plus hotel air and food. Everyone else free

P.S. Gary if you ever show up at NCE event you have a free Pass as professional Courtesy to your sponsors and National Cleaning Expo. As well as any press in the industry or org.


Gary Mauer said:
>>>Attempting to Charge me after you asked me waiting till you knew I had a non refundable room and 500.00 ticket you thought I would still come. <<<

You ignored my attempt to charge you days earlier. You filled out the same registration form everyone else does - and stopped when you got to the payment part.
So - whatever spin you put on any of the rest of it, nobody tried to trap you.

I feel really fortunate - nobody ever wants to have issues like that to deal with when you're making last minute preparations.

BTW - when I said I'd had to deal with a carload that didn't show up, that wasn't about you.
This happened a couple of years ago when a guy called and said a carload of guys were to be driving over to the Picnic with him. I fell for the joke and wasted precious time and energy getting ready.
That's why I like the way Huntsville is working. I don't necessarily believe the hotel is putting their foot down on the numbers - but there's nothing wrong with asking people to commit.
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Guy Blackmon said:
Hey Robert why not take the sarcasm down a notch or 20. If you've never put on an event like this then you have no idea what it takes to do this. If the room for the workshop is only a certain size then it will only fit a certain amount of people, got to know how much printed (Or Whatever) material you'll need for each attendee.....etc. It ain't like this is the first time you have heard about this workshop, I think it's been said time and time again that There Is A Cut Off Date For The Workshop.

Commits like that are pretty disrespectful Robert, you have no idea how much work goes in to putting on one of these workshops.
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Clear Shine said:
Gary, the hotel and I BOTH need to know ahead of time exactly how many people will be there. The hotel is mainly staffed for weekday (its mainly a business class hotel who caters to people flying in for meetings) and are usually slow on weekends, so they need to staff appropriately to accommodate us. I know that they will definitely need to bring in more staffing for the restaurant also, so they need hard numbers. I also have 3 speakers who need to know exact numbers for promo material and handouts. This isn't something you run across town and do and most people will prepare to attend, hence why the cut off is this Sunday @ midnight so we and the hotel can staff.
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Sorry - I didn't mean to make you explain.
It's a good idea for a bunch of reasons.
 
Ron Musgraves said:
You obviously where not clear you charge people to come and Speak. Thats ok because we charge them too, but we bill them when we invite or ask them immediately. for one we tell them right up front.
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So - for several months you hinted you were coming - and you fully intended to pay.
Except that a couple of weeks prior to the Picnic, I asked if you wanted to fill in for a guy.
And because I didn't bill you immediately - even though you declined - that meant you were off the hook.
OK.
 
Ok Guy, I feel properly chastised. my apologies to the people who are putting it on
Guy Blackmon said:
Hey Robert why not take the sarcasm down a notch or 20. If you've never put on an event like this then you have no idea what it takes to do this. If the room for the workshop is only a certain size then it will only fit a certain amount of people, got to know how much printed (Or Whatever) material you'll need for each attendee.....etc. It ain't like this is the first time you have heard about this workshop, I think it's been said time and time again that There Is A Cut Off Date For The Workshop.

Commits like that are pretty disrespectful Robert, you have no idea how much work goes in to putting on one of these workshops.
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Gary, if you want I have the conversations. Yes I was coming, I decided not to. Then you asked me if I knew anyone who might bring a Pressure washer, I said Maybe. Called Paul and asked he recommended Josh. Now I know why Josh Declined, so Paul decided to send you a roof Pump and pressure washer. He was not going to be able to attend. I said I could help him and you out, this was when you asked me to Speak. This was three weeks prior, I respectfully Declined your offer. You had asked if I would answer questions or speak to them while demoing I said yes. Its simple Gary we where doing you a favor, period!!!
When a Person Running a Show asked for a Favor they are clear about Payment. Its simple, you say I want you to do me a favor and come but I still need to charge you a Fee.

We are beating a Dead Horse Gary, trust me I will not ever engage in a business transaction with you unless its in writing. I have formal agreements and terms when I ask people to come. I say I'm going to do something and then I do it. Its pretty simple, we are straight forward. I know from going around and around with you on this Subject your just going to keep in denial. I really careless at the end of the day. DONE responding, if you can't get it by now I'm forgetting about. Its over and in the past. I feel better I got it off my chest......Have a Good night. See you at the picnic next July.

SEND ME A BILL FOR Network Space, I want two Spots for different Companies. ronppw@aol.com

Gary Mauer said:
So - for several months you hinted you were coming - and you fully intended to pay.
Except that a couple of weeks prior to the Picnic, I asked if you wanted to fill in for a guy.
And because I didn't bill you immediately - even though you declined - that meant you were off the hook.
OK.
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Ron Musgraves said:
Its over and in the past. I feel better I got it off my chest......Have a Good night. See you at the picnic next July. SEND ME A BILL FOR Network Space, I want two Spots for different Companies. ronppw@aol.com
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How about that - I did wonder if you were recording our phone calls.
That's kinda why I stopped taking them.

I'll let everyone know when Picnic registration opens.

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There are descriptions and links to online pay, and they can contact me with any questions.
 
Stop wondering I record them all
Gary Mauer said:
How about that - I did wonder if you were recording our phone calls.
That's kinda why I stopped taking them.

I'll let everyone know when Picnic registration opens.

If anyone is interested in Window Cleaning Network Sponsorship, please have them check out the link at the bottom of the sponsor page
There are descriptions and links to online pay, and they can contact me with any questions.
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