Which blower?

[revolve77]

The sirocco does have a debris tank although it does not have the 200 micron filter thats standard on the fury. Either way if its going to be the sirocco or the fury its still going to be miles ahead of the hydrotek.

 

[MMI Enterprises]

Great point Kevin. But the industrial blowers are the only vacuum systems that could give you a working distance equivalent to you pressure hose lengths (200 plus feet) if you prefer to recover on the fly with a vacuum surface cleaner.

Yes.. surfacer recovery for sure the gas blowers should rule. I can tell ya though just by staring at some daunting jobs I scratch my head knowing that I am still going to have to wand many border and rinse the whole thing too which will need a setup at a suitable draining spot.

 

[MMI Enterprises]

Scott, I have the Nikro dual head system and it is not too bad. The replacement lamb motors are $145.00 each when they go bad.

The electrical cords on the motors are around 20' to 25' each and you need to rig up a pump-out system so another electrical cord.

You can run them all from a 5000 watt generator or if you can find 3 outlets that are on separate breakers, that will work too.

I have had this for almost a year now but have not used it that much.


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To get away from any concerns of electric cords and maximum amps that can be pulled from breaker what you want to do is switch over to 24 volt dc lambs. Dc are not hampered with how much you can pull. You need 2 deep cycles min per vac (some folk already have) for to keep up. I don't think you need more than one vac though really. I park my scrubber with 4 battery in the water path and drop my sqweegie. You'll get many hours out of such setup. With the 4 battery array I run two scrub heads, drive motor, and the vac at full power for near on 2 hour and longer at less brush power. So I guestimate maybe 6-8 hour out of just the vac. I never run vac alone that long so can't say yet. My one caveat is my pump out still takes ac.
I should say you can pick up a small scrubber using two battery config with same vac ability as these hydro type anywhere from $400-$1000. Consider that value, Ya get two tanks, switching, vac, sqweegie, it's already carted, the list goes on. Heck it doesn't even need to be in full working order. I got a broken 20" I harvest parts off out back..lol..
Again we have another case of subjective decission betweeen ac, dc, portables, or gas blowers. Do we want to buy, lug, maintain, and fill a generator or buy, lug, and charge batteries? I can tell you there isn't anything more industrial about a blower versus a lamb. I use electric lamb everyday for hours and ya can get years out of them. I've changed brushes out before on some that came from the 80's and they still runnin.

 

[NeedClean]

Ok, might could save some money this way, any ideas how to make it work, I've got a capable engine or can get another, build a base plate, mount them up,

1. Fix the blower inlet side to the seperation tank.
2. Attach the vac hose to the inlet on the seperation tank
3. Attach small section of vac hose from seperation tank to pump inlet
4. Attach pump outlet to dump hose (to collection tank)


Here is a belt drive tuthill blower $329 brand new
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Tuthill-Blo...QitemZ200275842276QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Pumps

Here is a belt drive Centrifugal pump $373 brand new
http://cgi.ebay.com/CENTRIFUGAL-PUM...QitemZ140282642853QQcmdZViewItemQQptZBI_Pumps]


Any ideas why this wouldnt work? Blower needs no more than 4000 rpm, Any motor should do that, and pump needs min. of 2 hp. I would think this setup should work on an 11hp honda? My biggest concern is whether or not with that kind of force in the seperation tank, could the pump pull the water out.

 

[tomtucson]

I don't know first hand about the centrifugal pump fighting to pull the water out but it seems like it might not be good. For some reason it seems like a submersible pump thats underneath the water might be better - what about a 12v pump run by the engine electrical?

I found the specs on the blower and I'm curious myself how the horsepower that is specd for a blower - bhp - relates for a gas engine?

http://www.tuthill.com/us/en/produc...-air-blowers.cfm?cid=rdr_vacuum_pdplusair3200

 

[NeedClean]

I wish I had something to copy. I know that from what Russ has said in this thread, the model he has uses a belt driven centrifugal pump. I assume that since the setup like his doesnt have a seperation tank, instead it uses some sort of filter tank, I wonder if the suction creates less of an impact with its design.

The only reason I would think the 12 volt pump out wouldnt work inside the tank is because on my vacuboom, the pump out is inside the tank and is greatly affected by the vacuum effect. Before purchasing a vacuboom, I built a reclaim unit with a 12 volt pump out that was located on the outside of the vacuum seperation tank. It simply wouldnt pump the water unless the vacuum was turned off for a couple seconds and water started flowing, then the water would continue to flow despite the vacuum being turned back on. This is until the dirty water ran completely out of the tank.

 

[Christopher]

Before you go and buy stuff, you need to find out the specs because manufacturers make different types and size blowers, not a one size fits all here. I hope you did not assume that since it is a blower it would work did you?

What are the specs on that blower?

What are the specs you are looking for?

There is more to than just copying something, a lot of times there is more to it than what you are able to see, usually in the engineering and designed intention.

I would find out the specs first.


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[Christopher]

I wish I had something to copy. I know that from what Russ has said in this thread, the model he has uses a belt driven centrifugal pump. I assume that since the setup like his doesnt have a seperation tank, instead it uses some sort of filter tank, I wonder if the suction creates less of an impact with its design.

The only reason I would think the 12 volt pump out wouldnt work inside the tank is because on my vacuboom, the pump out is inside the tank and is greatly affected by the vacuum effect. Before purchasing a vacuboom, I built a reclaim unit with a 12 volt pump out that was located on the outside of the vacuum seperation tank. It simply wouldnt pump the water unless the vacuum was turned off for a couple seconds and water started flowing, then the water would continue to flow despite the vacuum being turned back on. This is until the dirty water ran completely out of the tank.

Typically a 12 volt pump would not move enough gpm's to keep up with a commercial application or be able to handle pumping out against a vacuum. Suppose you are using 5.5 gpm or 8gpm or 10 gpm, you would be better off with a sump pump that will work under those conditions.


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