Walk me through your plan of attack here

[CCC]

Nasty dumpster at a restaurant here. I've been downstreaming caustic mixed at 1 cup per galllon of water on other jobs, but fear that would not be near strong enough. Notice the trash dumpster does not have wheels to move it out of the way. When you guys are doing dumpsters, are you doing the enclosures, gates, and entry ramps? What would be your plan of attack, in order? How would you price it? I keep thinking of the $50 dumpster specials. I know this is way beyond that, but I'm having a hard time getiing that figure out of my mind. I keep coming up with about $300, not $150.

 

[DJ Carroll]

is your third picture asphalt?

I would do a demo first . . . that will help you sell for the higher amount
Pull all the small stuff out
then pull the two cans on the left out
Blow all loose stuff out with a leaf blower
put down some strong caustic (prolly gonna have to x-jet )
let sit and apply again
hit with hot water and repeat till clean


I prolly wouldn't touch that for less than $250

 

[CCC]

is your third picture asphalt?

No, that's the entry way (concrete) to the pad just in front of the gate. In the first pic it's hard to see the transition from asphalt to concrete since the concrete is so black. The transition point is about 4 feet in front of the gates. You can kind of tell on the left of the main traffic area.

Thanks for the advice. What would you do about the immobile (without equipment) dumpster? Work around it?

 

[Steven Button]

Hey Brandon

I recently had a grease pad that was in similar condition to the one you are looking at.

I think for pricing you need to ask yourself how much you want to make as well as if you are getting other work from the customer - maintenance agreement, sidewalks, canopies, storefront, etc, etc. For me the chance of getting this kind of work would help dictate my pricing... not to do it for a loss or to 'just break even', but if you do the job well - subsequent cleans are bread and butter!

Learning from my own experience with the grease pad I did, I would recommend putting down an absorbent of some kind (sand and kitty litter) and crush it into any 'fresh' grease - then sweep or shovel it up... after you have removed all debris and litter, etc.

... I didn't put an absorbent down and I think not doing it made my job harder.

If it were me, I wouldn't X-Jet or downstream the caustic - I use a shurflo pump to spray my mix straight on - then like DJ said, dwell, HOT water, repeat.

Remember to keep asphalt wet before, during and after and spray down all surrounding surfaces before during and after to make sure that caustic doesn't damage them - also washes any overspray.

... If you can arrange to have the dumpsters moved, do it - if it's not practical, work around them.

Hope this helps a bit.

 

[Ashley Phillips]

I would move the small stuff, lay down some caustic and let it eat. You can spray it thick enough to run under the dumpster.
You are going to bump up your mix but you can downstream it on.

 

[Disciples]

my input on the dumpster....

find out what day they empty them...

move everything you can and clean all the accessable areas after sutting the stuff back clean infront of the one without wheels. now the tricky and noisey part. get 2 1-2" tiedown straps and your truck. hook the strapss on the back bumper and the dumpster... pull it up to the clean section.... clean where the dumpster was then backup to the dumpster and push it back....

belive it or not an empty dumpster doesnt weigh more than 500# and would slide forwrd easy on the grease and dirt.


after rereading this. you may want tpoo pull the dumpster first then clean everything else.


just my 2 cents

 

[ckingclean]

That doesn't look like a good job to offer any $50 specials!

You would have to pay me a lot of money to do that nasty job.

 

[big bill]

I have done several jobs like this over the years. It's no $50 job. Put down some kind of absorbant, brush it in, scoop it up and dispose. Find out when they empty the dumpsters. What I do is carry a "cheater pipe" with me. When the dumpster is empty, use the cheater pipe to lift it up, put some 3" pvc pipes under it and roll it out the way. Quick and simple. Hit it hard w/ causic, dwell, clean, rinse. Sell them on maintenance plan. Health dept. inspection and the smell of this crap is prolly why you got the call on this one.

 

[hi-temp hydro]

Something I learned after doing a few of these is to ensure you have proper PPE (Personal Protective Equipment). Not only a wetsuit and gloves, but a face shield is an esential. You'll really appreciate the faceshield when you're cleaning out the corners, dumpster juice doesn't taste good I don't care how high dollar the resteraunt is!

 

[ckingclean]

Something I learned after doing a few of these is to ensure you have proper PPE (Personal Protective Equipment). Not only a wetsuit and gloves, but a face shield is an esential. You'll really appreciate the faceshield when you're cleaning out the corners, dumpster juice doesn't taste good I don't care how high dollar the resteraunt is!

Dumpster juice!!! Haha, that sound disgusting!

 

[CCC]

Something I learned after doing a few of these is to ensure you have proper PPE (Personal Protective Equipment). Not only a wetsuit and gloves, but a face shield is an esential. You'll really appreciate the faceshield when you're cleaning out the corners, dumpster juice doesn't taste good I don't care how high dollar the resteraunt is!

:roflmao:

 

[CCC]

I would move the small stuff, lay down some caustic and let it eat. You can spray it thick enough to run under the dumpster.
You are going to bump up your mix but you can downstream it on.

How hot do you mix on something like this? I'll, of course, experiment while doing the job. A little advice ahead of time could save a lot of time though

 

[Ron Musgraves]

I can move those small dumpster by myself, You guys are making more out the dumpster removal thing.

We move the dumpster with the truck if we need to, its and option and we charge 25 per to move them. ( or we wash around them)

I would wash this dumpster area for around 165.00. But keep in mind my tech and precedures are better faster and you cant compete with my companys performance.

We have nearly washed a 1000 in one month. I have propertys on 30 day service and we charge 45 to 95 based on what they are and frequency.

The grease cans would be and extra charge, we always charge extra if theres grease or a spill.

Be carefull, that stuff gets into the parking lot you will be paying for new cars carpets and even a slip and fall.

the detail on the car will be 200.00 when they find they cant get the rotten spell out you replace it for 800.00

OPPSSSSSSSSS that a 1000.00 already.

Slip and fall is going to cost you plenty. Emergency room visit on one of mine was 5500.00 the women never fell, she lost her balance and tore a muscle. fortunatly it was on video.

I will really be careful about using my prices, i make more per hour but i have 25 years of experince and do it right and have techs with 24 year and many with 14 years.

Training and no how make you money, not over charging because you dont know what your doing.

 

[Ron Musgraves]

Nasty dumpster at a restaurant here. I've been downstreaming caustic mixed at 1 cup per galllon of water on other jobs, but fear that would not be near strong enough. Notice the trash dumpster does not have wheels to move it out of the way. When you guys are doing dumpsters, are you doing the enclosures, gates, and entry ramps? What would be your plan of attack, in order? How would you price it? I keep thinking of the $50 dumpster specials. I know this is way beyond that, but I'm having a hard time getiing that figure out of my mind. I keep coming up with about $300, not $150.

If it was a one time Job i would charge 275.00 from the looks of the photo. If it was on maint say 30 i would do it for 145 to 175. the entire rest would get everything for 225.00 on 30 day maint.

15 day service would be 125.00 each time.

 

[Ron Musgraves]

is your third picture asphalt?

I would do a demo first . . . that will help you sell for the higher amount
Pull all the small stuff out
then pull the two cans on the left out
Blow all loose stuff out with a leaf blower
put down some strong caustic (prolly gonna have to x-jet )
let sit and apply again
hit with hot water and repeat till clean


I prolly wouldn't touch that for less than $250

Dj, please dont take this the wrong way.

DO NOT USE A LEAF BLOWER, way to much Glass in the rear of these type of places. ( simply rinse the area with low pressure first) when done rinsing this to a controled area simply sweep up.

Use a pump up spayer so you cant control the chems.

If the place was closed and no employee on site I would down stream. You could xjet but I can see draging a bucket around of caustic to get burned with. ( i know alot of folks do this, its dangerous for employees)


This would take me about 20 minutes to complete the job. Most of you when learning will take 2 hours or more.

I dont usally tell people to use a turbo, in these rear areas theres not much to hurt. So I recommend it inside the gates. ( not On the Asphalt)

 

[Ron Musgraves]

These da's are always filty, this one will be dirty in a few days. It might look like you have never been there.

The demo before like Dj suggested will help you sell but will also educate the GM on exactly what he is getting.

If you use cautic please use it safe and rinse any way or nutrilize it. You cant afford a lawsuit.

 

[Ron Musgraves]

 

[Ron Musgraves]

That a mini compactor they pulled, no place to put the trash so we haul it away.

The photo are taken for billing, incase the customer questions the charges.

We haul the trash back to our shop and throw it in our dumpster that are disgusting.

My house is dirty also and needs powerwashing. LOL

If you live by me Dj i would hire you. You never asked me why I dont wash homes?

Because I wouldnt do it as cheap as you guys work for. cant make money at 350 or 450....

I wash a house the other day, it was around 2800 for just the flatwork. LOL

This month is house wash month, I was all freinds and customers for free.

 

[Johnson]

Dj, please dont take this the wrong way.

DO NOT USE A LEAF BLOWER, way to much Glass in the rear of these type of places. ( simply rinse the area with low pressure first) when done rinsing this to a controled area simply sweep up.

Use a pump up spayer so you cant control the chems.

If the place was closed and no employee on site I would down stream. You could xjet but I can see draging a bucket around of caustic to get burned with. ( i know alot of folks do this, its dangerous for employees)


This would take me about 20 minutes to complete the job. Most of you when learning will take 2 hours or more.

I dont usally tell people to use a turbo, in these rear areas theres not much to hurt. So I recommend it inside the gates. ( not On the Asphalt)

How could you do that job in 20 min. Ron?

 

[Ron Musgraves]

How could you do that job in 20 min. Ron?

I might shoot video of one, I only spend 45 minutes on a whole place on average. That a food place, I can do it all in 45 minutes..

I dont care how big the patio is or how much sidewalk there is.