To Install or Not to Install?

[cgibson]

By "Doing Better" I meant "What can we (you) do about it?" (about making the restaurant do it -- about telling the AHJ -- about telling the world that without it the system (see Chris) is not being cleaned and poses a fire hazard) That's the "Doing Better". -- Old question -- still in need of an answer.

I think we have started off on the right foot with the Grease Police. We are now reporting these deficiencies to AHJ's , and showing physical evidence, photographic proof, that the hazards exists. They will have to get handled on a case by case basis, but we are trying to do something about it.

The inroads I am making with the insurance and fire departments continues to grow. Both NFPA and ICC will be carrying some of my manuals in their catalogue.

That is HUGE! To have your manuals available from those bodies is cold hard proof that you are making an incredible difference in this industry.

Now let's play a game and say its 5 or 10 years down the line and now proper access is being put in around the country. Fire departments and insurance companies are insisting that it gets installed, and it is.

Now what? What do we do about the hood cleaners that have great access (like in the below pictures) but still refuse to clean exhaust system to NFPA 96 standards even after they have pledged to do it through certification and membership in national organizations?

I would like your take on this Phil. What would you do if you received evidence that a Phil Ackland Certified cleaner was leaving exhaust systems like these pictures?

Without giving out the company name, I will say 2 things about the photos, 1) The service was done sometime in the last month and 2) The company is certified.

 

[cgibson]

And you will be graded on your answer

 

[Ron Musgraves]

Great info Chris,

Maybe its Matt?

You need to please call me about the problem we have with the ips and such. We can remedy this for teh last time.

Call me tonight or tomorrow anytime.

 

[cgibson]

This is Matt. Maybe we can have an account like Beth n Rod have, just change the name to Chris n Matt.

Back to the subject at hand, here is another system, recently serviced, with proper access installed, and again the hood cleaner only cleans the easily reached areas. I actually sent these photos to the organization that certified this company, and they are going to take action. This is a huge step in the right direction.

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[Ron Musgraves]

maybe you could start the better grease bureau .

 

[cgibson]

I was thinking of calling it the Department of Greaseland Security

Here is yet another with proper access and hardly any cleaning done. We have gotten good feedback from orgs on the photos we have sent them, it looks like the entire industry is bringing the game to a whole 'nother level. We still have a long way to go but if all of the good cleaners out there stick to their guns, I think in 10 years this industry will be seen in a much better light.

Matt

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