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TGP, Matt B
- Thread starter Ron Musgraves
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Russ Spence
Commercial Pressure Wash Expert
no wonder IKECA frowned on them, not saying I probably would nt do the same but it would not be right , I have done plenty of stuff I wish I could take back , some very costly !
Thats why he got the Boot?
Thats the vid that got him 86
Thats the vid that got him 86
Russ Spence
Commercial Pressure Wash Expert
I figured that but I was not sure others realized it was that and not some other story that really did it
I personally think Ikeca made a huge mistake getting rid of Matt. Only time will tell if Ikeca will eat there words on your fired.
Accually I also heard they asked him to resign.
Who cares if he ran down the hall naked, Good for him. At least he had enough balls to stand up and do what others say they have enough balls to do. Thats helping people, not soak up info and make money on crap work and turn and say I am the best hood cleaner. I asked that this be moved and it came back to life, Well I tell you that was not the way to conduct business. it should have just laid to rest and moved on. Like Anthony said it sounds like some bitches try to fight over a pair of pumps. All of you SHUT UP AND GET OVER IT.!
Sorry, but enough is enough.
Accually I also heard they asked him to resign.
Who cares if he ran down the hall naked, Good for him. At least he had enough balls to stand up and do what others say they have enough balls to do. Thats helping people, not soak up info and make money on crap work and turn and say I am the best hood cleaner. I asked that this be moved and it came back to life, Well I tell you that was not the way to conduct business. it should have just laid to rest and moved on. Like Anthony said it sounds like some bitches try to fight over a pair of pumps. All of you SHUT UP AND GET OVER IT.!
Sorry, but enough is enough.
HotShot_Anthony
Greaser of the Year
Russ, that is prolly the most in depth post I've ever read from you
Wonder where your post count would be if there were more like that hahahha
Grant
Administrator
Mattia,
I'm with you. Its dead lets bury it. BUT, A majority of the moderators read this thread and feel it should be left out in the open. At least three common mis-beliefs were addressed by their original authors who either fess up to lies or contradict themselves raising serious questions about their claims. I have agreed to let it be for now. If it gets any deeper, I will pull it again. This is a democratic board and I put my feelings aside on many issues, this being one of them.
As far as Matt's video goes, it was probably the fact that it had something like "IKECA convention" in the title and since Youtube is searchable it could make it appear that IKECA members are a bunch of wahoo's. I don't think anybody really cares what Matt does.
I'm with you. Its dead lets bury it. BUT, A majority of the moderators read this thread and feel it should be left out in the open. At least three common mis-beliefs were addressed by their original authors who either fess up to lies or contradict themselves raising serious questions about their claims. I have agreed to let it be for now. If it gets any deeper, I will pull it again. This is a democratic board and I put my feelings aside on many issues, this being one of them.
As far as Matt's video goes, it was probably the fact that it had something like "IKECA convention" in the title and since Youtube is searchable it could make it appear that IKECA members are a bunch of wahoo's. I don't think anybody really cares what Matt does.
Russ Spence
Commercial Pressure Wash Expert
thats classic Matt Bryan , I love the video myself but I guess IKECA didnt
as far as your reply Mattia ..... the whole thing had been left alone until some of us found that we were misteriously banned from TGP for our associations with Ron , looks like to me the good folks that run TGP started the whole thing all over again by fibbing to some of us about the real reason we are banned ( I was told it was a computer glitch) ....... I was really banned because I am too close to Ron and Grant? Go figure .I have never road the fence or done any dirt behind anyones back , I thought I had friends but as usual I guess I was wrong , wanna know now why I dont answer many phone calls anymore from the boards ..... I get tired of all the soap opras , so here we are in another episode of the greaser world , always a controversy , sure dont see us flat worker sissys at each other all the time , maybe its cause we dont have daddys buisness going to **** on the internet ..... sorry but I call it as I see it .
ther is a time and place for everything and I ,like I said before have made my share of mistakes , but Iseriously think that Matt probably regrets doing what he did at the convention ,wheather he wants to admit it or not .... was it funny ? hell yes but not a great business move but what do I know I am just a dumb ole country boy from Alabama !
as far as your reply Mattia ..... the whole thing had been left alone until some of us found that we were misteriously banned from TGP for our associations with Ron , looks like to me the good folks that run TGP started the whole thing all over again by fibbing to some of us about the real reason we are banned ( I was told it was a computer glitch) ....... I was really banned because I am too close to Ron and Grant? Go figure .I have never road the fence or done any dirt behind anyones back , I thought I had friends but as usual I guess I was wrong , wanna know now why I dont answer many phone calls anymore from the boards ..... I get tired of all the soap opras , so here we are in another episode of the greaser world , always a controversy , sure dont see us flat worker sissys at each other all the time , maybe its cause we dont have daddys buisness going to **** on the internet ..... sorry but I call it as I see it .
ther is a time and place for everything and I ,like I said before have made my share of mistakes , but Iseriously think that Matt probably regrets doing what he did at the convention ,wheather he wants to admit it or not .... was it funny ? hell yes but not a great business move but what do I know I am just a dumb ole country boy from Alabama !
Russ Spence
Commercial Pressure Wash Expert
I know and its the same feeling about you Matt ,i just didnt think you knew the whole story , its just agrivating to get blamed and punished for something whan you are not the one at fault , my position is this ,Matt B and Ant ,Jason ,Chris , Dave and several others all have expressed their feelings about me in a personal way and all have been good and all say "oh man you are cool with me" but I am still on the hit list because of my friendship with Ron and Grant , well I will tell you this that Ron has helped me more than my own family ever did as far as my business is concerned and if that keeps my off the board then so be it , Ron has been a true friend and I guess if I am forced to choose a side the I will choose Ron , I am not the siding type because I feel you stand behind who is right , I take no sides in most matters because I am mainly concerned with me and my family but in the same since my relationship with Ron has made a better life for my family , and just for the record Ron has never sent me one job, only good solid sound advice.
Thanks for the kind words Matt and you are as always ok with me !
EnviroClean
Member
Ron..you are still way out of line for calling me and leaving threatening voicemails. I have not and will not threaten anyone's means that they feed their family with. YOU WERE WRONG!!!! What Matt does is what Matt does..Grant you and I did not have what I feel to be a huge falling out...I did engage in the horseplay like ANT mentioned..I appologize for that....but you did not call and leave messages threatening me....I do however feel that Matt was thrown under the bus by someone on TGP who was trolling....the You Tube video never had any title tags or reference to IKECA...so my conclusion is someone who wanted to do harm to him who was lurking on TGP made the call to IKECA...Russ no hard feelings I did not ban anyone...I've said this before...I started TGP but I later handed it over to MBryan and gave him full control....this was after Ron threatened me with lawsuits...nice guy that Ron.
EnviroClean
Member
The proof is in the pudding...he admits to the threats here!!!
Originally Posted by Ron Musgraves
Its not a threat, I take my business very serious. I will follow thru with what i have said.
When promises are not kept I will take action. You can either make a simple problem and request go away or keep playing what you believe is a game.
I have asked nicely. I will request again, if your claiming your not the owner of the domain and site then who is?
Still hope you can help, I will not contact you any longer by phone. if you want to not communicate at all to resolve something that we do ourselves, I dont believe involving attourneys will be necessary.
Ron take this up with Matt who is the administrator!!! And Matt is the one that you have the beef with!
I am very disappointed that you have called repeatedly and have the left THREATS on my voicemail. I have nothing to do with the posts. It is none of my business. Be a man call Matt and work it out with him!!!
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Serving The Island Of Puerto Rico & The Caribbean Basin
J Grogan (787) 459-3420
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Associate HS Cleaner
Originally Posted by Ron Musgraves
Its not a threat, I take my business very serious. I will follow thru with what i have said.
When promises are not kept I will take action. You can either make a simple problem and request go away or keep playing what you believe is a game.
I have asked nicely. I will request again, if your claiming your not the owner of the domain and site then who is?
Still hope you can help, I will not contact you any longer by phone. if you want to not communicate at all to resolve something that we do ourselves, I dont believe involving attourneys will be necessary.
Ron take this up with Matt who is the administrator!!! And Matt is the one that you have the beef with!
I am very disappointed that you have called repeatedly and have the left THREATS on my voicemail. I have nothing to do with the posts. It is none of my business. Be a man call Matt and work it out with him!!!
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EnviroClean Exhaust Service
Serving The Island Of Puerto Rico & The Caribbean Basin
J Grogan (787) 459-3420
BS CERTIFIED SUMMER 2006
Associate HS Cleaner
Russ Spence
Commercial Pressure Wash Expert
Jason , I didnt know it would take this much to get you back posting ....... cleaned any WALGREENS LATELY ?
EnviroClean
Member
Only Pharmeceuticals now Russ.
It’s all over with for me on this subject, many problems been fixed.
Balls in your court gents, if you want to resolve any others, I’m open.
If you do not I don’t really have a concern any longer.
As stated above I wanted my user erased and it was so I’m happy.
Thanks for assisting getting that resolved. Thank you for letting me know you actually own the TGP and Matt’s your admin.
The largest difference here is that PWI is not owned by me it’s a PW owned site and Grants the man in charge today. In the future only Grant will choose who steps in and takes over.
Like any democratic Run org. I’m sure Grant Takes advice from Mods and makes decisions based on his experience and others. We stand by his final decisions because he runs the BBS. I do not make these decisions.
Its all water under the bridge, Jason if you feel my phones calls were threatening I apologize. I was angry I was told you did not own the site. I appreciate you telling the truth now and this makes me feel a lot better.
Maybe all was and elaborate Joke like Matt claimed and was taken out of context.
Best Wishes to TGP, Matt B and You too Jason.
Balls in your court gents, if you want to resolve any others, I’m open.
If you do not I don’t really have a concern any longer.
As stated above I wanted my user erased and it was so I’m happy.
Thanks for assisting getting that resolved. Thank you for letting me know you actually own the TGP and Matt’s your admin.
The largest difference here is that PWI is not owned by me it’s a PW owned site and Grants the man in charge today. In the future only Grant will choose who steps in and takes over.
Like any democratic Run org. I’m sure Grant Takes advice from Mods and makes decisions based on his experience and others. We stand by his final decisions because he runs the BBS. I do not make these decisions.
Its all water under the bridge, Jason if you feel my phones calls were threatening I apologize. I was angry I was told you did not own the site. I appreciate you telling the truth now and this makes me feel a lot better.
Maybe all was and elaborate Joke like Matt claimed and was taken out of context.
Best Wishes to TGP, Matt B and You too Jason.
Jason,
I embellish no hard feelings over what has transpired and hope you can truly forgive and forget. I have forgiven and give you a personal apology here. You can choose to accept.
Have a great day and make lots of money.
If Matt wants to respond since he is doing it with Chris id can we just allow him to post under old user? Just a question guys.
If this is buried and we intend to move on truly then we should probably be the bigger people and just open PWI back up as it was truly stated to be and open forum to argue and discuss subjects openly.
Matt was a large part of PWI and did contribute and I feel all has been put to rest on our end.
Beside its confusing to have him posting under others names. Just my thoughts, Maybe there are reason I’m not aware of.
If this is buried and we intend to move on truly then we should probably be the bigger people and just open PWI back up as it was truly stated to be and open forum to argue and discuss subjects openly.
Matt was a large part of PWI and did contribute and I feel all has been put to rest on our end.
Beside its confusing to have him posting under others names. Just my thoughts, Maybe there are reason I’m not aware of.
Russ Spence
Commercial Pressure Wash Expert
I say let Matt post , if we are gonna make a move towards the healing process lets wipe the slate clean ..... lets welcome Matt back and start a new chapter !