TGP, Matt B

I have no animosity over any of this; I cannot access TGP and actually have not tried for months.

Curiosity at what was going on was all that was intended.

I have no beef with Matt or anyone else at TGP.

I deal with individuals on there own merit.

If you’re a friend of Matts I could careless. Your welcome at PWI.


PWI is truly your BBS, you can post here anytime no matter what your association with anyone is as long as you treat your fellow posters with respect.

I’m not going re-hatch BS from the past up nor will allow myself to be involved in anyone else’s business.


I was not asking about Matt’s businesses I was simply wondering the format of the BBS.

Thanks for the info.
 
ANT, I always appreciate your professional response.

Thank you for the invite I respectfully decline. You’re always welcome to post any news about TGP anytime you like as always.

Anthony you’re a class act and they are very lucky to have you there.

Chris mentioned you’re a graduate of Rusty’s course? Is that true? Rusty has some heavy hitters under his belt.

Anthony, look for my new vids soon. I spent about 5000 g on a camera. It allows me to do green screen. Its going to be a lot of fun superimposing myself on your guys vids.
 
This is Matt, Chris gave me his password, he didn't want to get in the middle of this.

I love how you are taking the high road Ron. The fact is that you have ratted me out before, and I am sure that you or one of your butt buddies ratted me out to IKECA. You are a snake.

I gave many many hours to this board that I could have spent with my family, and you repayed me by betraying me. You did this while I was a PWI member in good standing, and one of the biggest contributers of this board. Not only that, I brought people here and kept them here out of my loyalty to YOU, and your reward for me was to stab me in the back. Before you deny this, I have the PM saved from Beth at the Grime Scene where she admits it was you that ratted me out.

You try to play the nice guy here but its all a ruse. I will play the black hat, I could give a sh1t. No I dont want any of your cronies on TGP, not because I am afraid of you, but I am afraid that if you have a beef with one of the members, you will do the same thing to them that you or one of your little buddies did to me.

You can't hurt my company, I honestly and sincerely thank you for getting me kicked out of IKECA, just like I thank you for kicking me off of this board, it was the single greatest thing that ever could of happened to TGP. And now that I am no longer an IKECA member, I can take The Grease Police where it was originally intentioned, and where all other organizations in my industry have striven for, but have fallen short. In a sick perverted way, everything you have done to hurt me has also blessed me 10x over.

This is a great board, and there is a lot of great information that everyone can benefit from. But don't think for one second that if Ron calls you on the phone, that he is just calling to say hi or see how you are doing, he wants something from you. When I wouldn't play his little game he got rid of me.

Go ahead and give your little 2 sentence response saying what a great guy you are Ron, and how you have helped so many guys by giving them work, all because they were members of this board. But anyone that you have given work to should wonder why it is they have to write you a check every time they spend hours out in the sun toiling away on the jobs you have referred them to. This board is not free. If you are here and contributing, Ron is trying to figure a way to make money off of you, bottom line.

Yes I am a little $1 million a year company that you laugh at because of how small we are but the one thing that I have that you will never have is integrity, you can not buy that with any amount of money.
 
Ouch!! All I can say is that Ron has never hurt me or tried to use me. I was here when Ron first started this board and I'm still here because this board has meant alot to me over the years. I consider Ron a good friend who I had many discussions with in the past.

Its to bad that Ron and Matt had a falling out. Matt has turned that into a positive which is a good thing and Ron continues onwards with this bb and other ventures.

Life goes on..........
 
I hate what has happened but I will say this on Rons behalf he does call and In our relationship of 18 months has never asked anything of me ,he has however provided me with knowledge that would have taken me years to attain if ever , he has never given me any work but he has helped me make sure I am on the money when I go after something ,he has also told me when to stay away from stuff and I cant tell you how many times I have cursed him for being right ! Nevertheless , I personally like Matt B and I was the one who first called attention to the whole post thing ,why ? Because as a moderator it is what I was supposed to do ,not to hurt Matt or help Ron but to make sure as I always have that this boards standards are kept up. I am sorry all this happened but it did and I wish it could be rectified but I really dont see how ,its gone tooooo far and you have 2 alfa male personalities in the problem and neither will give ,but what we can do is just let it go , I am a little upset over the fact that just because I am an associate of Ron and Grants that I cant access TGP ,my merits as a friend should stand on its own but thats Matts decision and I will respect it (even if I dont agree) and just see him elsewhere , I have some good internet friends over there ,but they too are elsewhere posting so I dont need TGP to see them . I post on other boards but this is my home and I will protect its integrity but I wont sell out to anyone I will as always stand behind what is right or just stay out of it all together , best of luck and best wishes to TGP see you guys somewhere if not here.
 
Matt, as a founder of the BBS I have a responsibility for to uphold the rules.

I would rat you out again and again and again. The number and id needs to be in the signature. You’re not special! You’re making a big deal out of nothing and grabbing for straws.

Matt I will take the high road; People can see and know I’m not what you try to make my character out to be.

Yes some here and other place for whatever reasons don’t agree with my ideals and that’s life.

Matt, My public apology, If I have offended you or done any wrong I sincerely ask for your forgiveness.

Let’s all just be Men and move forward, the gossip and slander does no one any good. Not PWI < TGP or any other BBS.
 
Skirt on to Tight!

The turmoil over TGP has risen again, I here to tell all I could really careless what Matt or anyone says about myself or PWI.

I want to apologize for my behavior to all here. If I had big the bigger person I could have worked this out and the relations between the BBS would have been better.

I allowed my personal feelings to enter into this witch clouded my thoughts.

I truly feel like my skirt was on to tight.

The hood forum now has suffered a bit and I very sorry for this.

My apology is to the entire community. Just because you think your right doesn’t mean you have to be a block head.


PWI, I’m sorry for allowing a few to affect what we have and I promise not to allow it happen again.


http://www.propowerwash.com/board/upload/showthread.php?t=8505
 
This is Matt

Apology accepted.

I still think you or one of your little buddies had something to do with the IKECA debacle. No hard feelings, all is fair in love and war, as they say. Honestly I would have done the same to you if I had the chance. Well played.

I dug this hole for myself by becoming one of your enemies. All I am asking is that if you or any of your butt buddies have any feelings of revenge for whatever reason, that you take it out on me and not anyone from TGP, there are a lot of guys on that board that might be hurt by your actions, their families too.

Don't say that you wouldn't do it because you already repeatedly called and threatened to sue Jason Grogan for something I did on TGP, so you already have a history of going after my friends for something that I have done to piss you off.

Your actions speak louder than any words you could ever post on this board will. You betrayed me when I was your friend, when I came to this board at your request, and helped this board to flourish. All I want to say to anyone that is close to Ron is watch your back, do not do anything to piss him off and everything should be OK. I am not saying this to disparage Ron, some may take it as a compliment, it's just that he is not a man to be trifled with.
 
I’ll accept my apology accepted.

I can only assume your Joking. All behind and forgotten, I still have no clue about your misfortune with that organization.


I’m truly very sorry you been thrown out and hope you get back in if you want.


I forgive you and forget anything in the past or the future. Matt life’s too short.

Your TGP folks can promote all they want on PWI, everyone is welcome here reguardless of thier association.

I think the Photo is actaully funny.

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I'd just like to remind everyone that I bought, Paid For and Started The Grease Police. As the site started to gain momentum, RON posted on TGP stating that it was Gay and later called me extensively and left Threatening Voice mails because he disagreed with MATT. ( I still have these because Ron threatened lawsuits against me.) I did not then and still do not know the software so Ron I still say you were way out of line and I think you are a snake. Then you and Grant started banning anyone involved with TGP. So yeah I agree and think you and Grant are both snakes. The TGP Site was initially conceptualized in collaboration with ANT. I did in fact explain my idea to Ron and he thought it was a good idea and told me to not tell anyone else. The next day I began working with my Trademark attorney. Everything would have been fine but RON you crossed a serious line in my book when you blatantly threatened me and my family's livelihood.

The site has evolved and Matt was invited to run the board with FULL control very early on. I hope that TGP continues to evolved and it does one day be a beneficial QA/QC tool to the industry. TGP exists because it is my small contribution back to the Grease World. Grant in fact did take me out to see a job during my Business/Market Study process. Grant would still be on my "friend" list had he not been a punk and banned me and then magically re-reinstate me......I understand that Grant just bent over on Ron's request but I think it was pretty spineless. MATT has had for a long time, total control of TGP he ultimately decides who is allowed in and who is axed.
 
oh well I got axed and only because of my friendship with Ron , I was also told I couldnt log on because of a glitch in the board and was invited to rejoin , all the while not being able to ..... still I pursued an explanation , finally the other day I was told that I was to close to Ron and Grant to be able to access TGP . I still have or thought I had friends over there but I guess after reading this I may be wrong , my reputation should speak on its own merits I have never ,NEVER ! CROSSED THE LINE ! I dont ride a fence and I stay true to only one (the one thats right ) I was in hopes all this would stop finding its way over here , you see you are still allowed to come over here and speak your mind but God forbid opening the BBS of yours to the public . I am one whom all of you spinless greasers that called me friend owe an apology to for not having guts or enough backbone to let me know why you banned me from your little world ,dont give me any B.S. about greasers only because Jason you invited me and Ant just the other day said I was welcome anytime .I dont care what beef you have with Ron ,leave me out of it ,but you need to remember your roots Jason ,who spent hours on the boards and on the phone with you last year buddy? ME ! I dont appreciate the whole thing and "spinless" is a word I would use carefully !I FEEL I AT LEAST DESERVED A PHONE CALL ! DONT BOTHER NOW
 
I have ZERO problems with you Russ. I never called you out or implicated you in the Ron and Grant anticts.....I did no ban anyone, I relinquished all control to Matt a long time ago....take it up with Ant ( Top Poster) and Matt. I do appreciate all the info yo9u shared with me Russ. I still get funny emails from you my man, I have been so busy...today is my first veiw of PWI in a long time only cuz it came up on TGP. It is all silly really but RON was totaly wrong to leave recorded threats on my telephone...I deffinatley do not want to be associated with someone who stoops so low. Russ I have no issues with you...just lost touch cuz i did not come around to PWI anymore.

One thing I will not do though is do like Ron and tell the Admoin of the board to delete or add someone just because I have a chip on my shoulder....Matt and the greasers own the board...I am only a visitor and a whole lot less than I used to be...it took on its' own life.....
 
The post erasing was done way before I was even a member of TGP. That started after the incident with TGS. Also, unfortunately, after I found out that there was a section of this board that I could not access. It was my way of showing Ron and Grant that if they didn't want me as part of their club, then they cant have all my pictures or data that I have put on this board either. It was childish and wrong for me to do that, but whats done is done.

My point is that there was a post on here stating that I was banned because I deleted all of my pictures and some of my posts, when in actual fact I was banned before anyone figured out I had done that, but that is still being given as the reason I was banned. It is a false statement.

Russ I did lie to you when I said that there was a glitch that erased your account, I was trying to avoid any confrontations between TGP and PWI. I do not question whether or not you would do anything shady at TGP if you were a member, I do think that you are a man of your word. I just don't like the idea of having any moderators from this board also involved over at TGP. Its more for the members than for me, they feel more comfortable now that the board is private, and the traffic has almost doubled since that happened. Just like I am sure there are more posts in the private sections of this board.
 
Russ...I don't have a problem with you man....never have.

Ron... I've always tried to stay out of the mess, didn't feel it was my fight. I was angry that you left those emails or pm's and voicemails to J-man after we had personally chose you to bring our idea of The Grease Police to you! Oh well, it's water under the bridge now as far as I'm concerned. Like you said earlier, life is too short to be mad about such stupid things...

Grant... I joked around with your name when all this stuff was going on, I may have gone too far, but nothing was meant by it personally. Sorry if you took offence to it, I didn't mean it that way, I would rather have everybody getting along. I've turned down work in the past when I looked and saw your hood sticker up out of respect for you. There is enough to go around, I think.

Maybe I'm too young and naiive, but I don't see the point in all the arguing and bickering, we all sound like a bunch of women ( sorry Nickel and others who see this :)) If it's really that bad, then meet up and swing some knuckles and get it over with already. Just let me know before hand so I can make some cool videos :D
 
cgibson said:
Also, unfortunately, after I found out that there was a section of this board that I could not access.
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Chris or Matt whoever posted this...the only private section requirement was a minimum number of posts and you both were able to access that area. The only exception is Chris did not have access to the moderator section and neither of you had access to the administrator sections. Just the same as 99.9% of the members here
 
HotShot_Anthony said:
Russ...I don't have a problem with you man....never have.

Ron... I've always tried to stay out of the mess, didn't feel it was my fight. I was angry that you left those emails or pm's and voicemails to J-man after we had personally chose you to bring our idea of The Grease Police to you! Oh well, it's water under the bridge now as far as I'm concerned. Like you said earlier, life is too short to be mad about such stupid things...

Grant... I joked around with your name when all this stuff was going on, I may have gone too far, but nothing was meant by it personally. Sorry if you took offence to it, I didn't mean it that way, I would rather have everybody getting along. I've turned down work in the past when I looked and saw your hood sticker up out of respect for you. There is enough to go around, I think.

Maybe I'm too young and naiive, but I don't see the point in all the arguing and bickering, we all sound like a bunch of women ( sorry Nickel and others who see this :)) If it's really that bad, then meet up and swing some knuckles and get it over with already. Just let me know before hand so I can make some cool videos :D
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I have been tossing around the idea of the Pressure Washers Wrestling Alliance. We can have a pay per view TLC(Tables,Ladders & Chairs) tag team match. Ron & Grant vs. Matt B. & Chris G. To make it more interesting we'll make it a no DQ,pin falls count anywhere in the building.Let's get it on...........
 
my only problem was calling people spineless for doing things behind peoples back and the posting it because I feel it was the way it was done to me ,your gripes are my gripes ,you want to be mad because some of you feel you were penalized for your association ,then you do it to me ? I dont care about your board , I would go there and post for you not for me .Dont want me there ... no problem !

Apology accepted but not forgotten , I feel betrayed and I have never betrayed anyone on this board , I cant beleive I actually got upset but I am , I guess when you work hard to devolip a relationship with people and share time with them you expect more than the feeling like you have been cheated on by your high school sweetheart with your best friend.

Anyway thanks for the replies , I am not mad but I am upset that you didnt even call me and explain first ,that kind of stinks but I am a big boy and I will just dust off and ride again.

Sorry if you feel this way but as I have ALWAYS said "I will stand behind what is right" This aint right !

I harbour no ill will and wish you all luck and as a moderator I would like to see you post on PWI,that would be a good step in the right direction towards healing all of this since we cant post and show our support on TGP

OK , WELL I AM OUT !
 
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