Surfactant and Detergent?

It's definitely strong enough for post treating,..and many times pre-treating with enough dwell time. I usually just DS concrete with my house wash mix,..but if it is really bad I will apply it with a dedicated sprayer to save aggravation. Example: Old concrete that is really porous often gets big (Nickle Dime and Quarter sized) green and black mold spots that can be really set in. Then I will use something really strong,..even 12.5% sometimes.

Jeff
 
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Should I use SH or a degreaser?


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Regular degreaser won't do it like purple power? With the dragon juice is it just spraying it on it and rinsing or does it need scrubbing


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Purple power will wipe them out. I bought purple power for like $ 3.50 a gallon delivered to my door ( Thanks Jeff ). cut 50/50 comes to $1.75 a gallon. And yes you have to brush with both. I will almost guarantee that every professional power washer carries a Mr.longarm with a brush on it.
 
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Purple power will wipe them out. I bought purple power for like $ 3.50 a gallon delivered to my door. cut 50/50 comes to $1.75 a gallon. And yes you have to brush with both. I will almost guarantee that every professional power washer carries a Mr.longarm with a brush on it.
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Would it work down streaming it? My downtream dilutes it to 20%


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Removing gutter streaks is easiest done by application with a dedicated pump. Ds'ing will just cause headaches and more work,.and alot more actiual scrubbing. Whereas the dedicated pump method isn't hard scrubbing,..more like just brushing over in most cases. Don't turn it into more work than it really is,..fairly easy to do and makes a huge difference in the overall look of the job.

*Spray on and rinse off can be done on occasion,..I rarely even try it though,...because as a whole they need scrubbed simply to agitate the streaks and make for a more thorough cleaning the first time 'round.


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Hey Steven,.glad you were able to get in on the good PP deal through Advance Auto. I just hope they never change their shipping policy,.Ha,Ha,..Such a great deal for a very capable cleaner. Through the off season I will accumulate about 50-60 buckets because I know I'm going to use it and I'm afraid they will change the free shipping at some point,..so I like to at least be stocked up while the gettin is good,..and cheap.

Jeff
 
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Hey Steven,.glad you were able to get in on the good PP deal through Advance Auto. I just hope they never change their shipping policy,.Ha,Ha,..Such a great deal for a very capable cleaner. Through the off season I will accumulate about 50-60 buckets because I know I'm going to use it and I'm afraid they will change the free shipping at some point,..so I like to at least be stocked up while the gettin is good,..and cheap.

Jeff
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Thanks Worked real nice. I couldn't believe the price, especially since they sent me 2 free ones by mistake.
 
Thanks guys I'll send some after pictures.


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814jeffw said:
Hey Steven,.glad you were able to get in on the good PP deal through Advance Auto. I just hope they never change their shipping policy,.Ha,Ha,..Such a great deal for a very capable cleaner. Through the off season I will accumulate about 50-60 buckets because I know I'm going to use it and I'm afraid they will change the free shipping at some point,..so I like to at least be stocked up while the gettin is good,..and cheap.

Jeff
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You can use TRT30 and it will give you 30% off


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Hey Bira,..yea,.we know that,.. And keep in mind the "TRT30" code is capped at $50.00 savings per order,..so ordering (5) buckets at a time gives you max savings. And they also give you free shipping on orders over $75.00,.even these 42 LB. buckets. You also want to sign up for "Speed Perks",.which will give you discount values determined by things you purchase. And the codes can be used together.

Jeff
 
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Hey Bira,..yea,.we know that,.. And keep in mind the "TRT30" code is capped at $50.00 savings per order,..so ordering (5) buckets at a time gives you max savings. And they also give you free shipping on orders over $75.00,.even these 42 LB. buckets. You also want to sign up for "Speed Perks",.which will give you discount values determined by things you purchase. And the codes can be used together.

Jeff
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How is PP compared to dragon juice?


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I have no experience with Dragon Juice,.but I'm sure it's a much stronger product,..I know many guys use it so maybe they will jump in here. PP is just so cost effective and works so well at a very cheap price,..and I don't run into anything it won't work on where that type cleaner is required. We need a cost breakdown (price, shipping dilution rates) of Dragon Juice by someone who uses it regularly. Then we can all benefit from the information.

Jeff
 
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I have no experience with Dragon Juice,.but I'm sure it's a much stronger product,..I know many guys use it so maybe they will jump in here. PP is just so cost effective and works so well at a very cheap price,..and I don't run into anything it won't work on where that type cleaner is required. We need a cost breakdown (price, shipping dilution rates) of Dragon Juice by someone who uses it regularly. Then we can all benefit from the information.

Jeff
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I am not sure Dragon Juice is a stronger product, it is just the right product. It removes most tiger stripes without the risk of removing the paint. There are instances where the paint will come off, but that is when the paint is fully oxidized and is ready to come off anyway. Some paint will come off with just plain water or the swipe of your finger. Dragon Juice is a concentrate that is shipped without water added. It requires water to activate it, and will not work straight from the jug.

The cost is $55 per gallon plus $15 shipping. So $70. The minimum amount of water that must be added is 4 gallons to the one gallon of Juice. So for the $70, you are really getting at the minimum, 5 gallons of product. I have never had to use it at that concentration. I use it at 10:1, and that where I start. Believe it or not, it works better diluted. I hear people squawking and balking at the $70 for a gallon, when in reality it is $70 for 5 or 10 gallons. Dragon juice is also great on tough algae stains. It's penetration properties are awesome. They re coming out with a dragon juice for flatwork, and I have pre ordered to try it out. Here is a recipe page from the website. Also I believe they sell quarts now, if $70 is too much to test it out.

Some common used Ratios but the list is Growing!
10/1 (pre-spray flat work heavy oil)
15/1 ( gutters)
16/1 (awning )
20/1 (pre-spray flat work med oil)
30/1
40/1 (commercial flatwork maintenance)
50/1 (carpet) (auto detail)
64/1 (heavy soiled window cleaning)
100/1 ÷ (injector ratio ) = downstream mix Flatwork
128/1 (Window cleaning) (carpet)
133/1 × (injector ratio) house washes
200/1 Flatwork
500/1 (roof mixtures)
All have been used the most frequently and reported for different situations, these are all Contractor reported ratios, so try different ones always. When testing always test a small area for color fastness and needed dilutions
 

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I am not sure Dragon Juice is a stronger product, it is just the right product. It removes most tiger stripes without the risk of removing the paint. There are instances where the paint will come off, but that is when the paint is fully oxidized and is ready to come off anyway. Some paint will come off with just plain water or the swipe of your finger. Dragon Juice is a concentrate that is shipped without water added. It requires water to activate it, and will not work straight from the jug.

The cost is $55 per gallon plus $15 shipping. So $70. The minimum amount of water that must be added is 4 gallons to the one gallon of Juice. So for the $70, you are really getting at the minimum, 5 gallons of product. I have never had to use it at that concentration. I use it at 10:1, and that where I start. Believe it or not, it works better diluted. I hear people squawking and balking at the $70 for a gallon, when in reality it is $70 for 5 or 10 gallons. Dragon juice is also great on tough algae stains. It's penetration properties are awesome. They re coming out with a dragon juice for flatwork, and I have pre ordered to try it out. Here is a recipe page from the website. Also I believe they sell quarts now, if $70 is too much to test it out.

Some common used Ratios but the list is Growing!
10/1 (pre-spray flat work heavy oil)
15/1 ( gutters)
16/1 (awning )
20/1 (pre-spray flat work med oil)
30/1
40/1 (commercial flatwork maintenance)
50/1 (carpet) (auto detail)
64/1 (heavy soiled window cleaning)
100/1 ÷ (injector ratio ) = downstream mix Flatwork
128/1 (Window cleaning) (carpet)
133/1 × (injector ratio) house washes
200/1 Flatwork
500/1 (roof mixtures)
All have been used the most frequently and reported for different situations, these are all Contractor reported ratios, so try different ones always. When testing always test a small area for color fastness and needed dilutions
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Nice did you have scrub that at all?


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