Starting off in the Hood Cleaning Business

Przrat said:
Your list of professionals all seem to have a very similar history. Nothing against their past but are there any participants that are not in the hood cleaning sales, marketing, installation or schools that contribute to the Fire Codes?
For instance Fire Marshalls, general contractors, safety inspectors , enviromental people. You know, businessmen that have absolutely nothing to gain except the safety and quality of a service that is so important.
The spectrum of people you mentioned is very narrow.
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Who else would know about such things? My wife (nurse) My neighbor, (retired from the NYC subway) If I am going to war, I do not want a nurse leading the battle, I want a experienced leader in fighting wars. If I am sick in the hospital I don't want my neighbor writing my care plan, That is a nurses job.

Back to the list of professional people involved with the NFPA. Has it ever occured to you or anyone else that just maybe there are still people out there that actually care about what they are doing, and not just for them selves or their personal gain, but for the betterment of the aspect of life they are involved with. My stepsons little league coach has a priority of sportsmanship, for the betterment of the kids. Our fore fathers put the country first. Just maybe, MOST of these people actually want to see the codes written for the betterment of the industry as a whole, and not for personal gain. Besides, there are to many checks and balances when it comes time to write codes for any one individual to have a undo amount of influance in what is written.
 
Some professionals from the hood cleaning industry are invaluable but all of them? Their expertise is necessary.
Its kinda like asking a politician if he should give himself a raise. With no counter balance everything is done with blinders on.
 
Przrat said:
Some professionals from the hood cleaning industry are invaluable but all of them? Their expertise is necessary.
Its kinda like asking a politician if he should give himself a raise. With no counter balance everything is done with blinders on.
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You make it sound like a "good ole boys network" If anyone were to visit either the NFPA or the ANSI site, One would soon realize that

a. Both organizations are beyond the scope of, influence of or from any one individual or business.

b. The people allowed to be placed on committees are the cream of the crop, the most knowledgeable individuals in their fields, with reputations and levels of personal integrity beyond reproach.

c. These 2 organizations can not and will not allow any one individual or organization to in any way tarnish the position they hold in the INTERNATIONAL (thats world wide) community.

I have not taken the time to look up all the members of the new ansi standards comittee, But I seem to remember that there are individuals on it that are from industries other than the kec.

There are people in the course of their life that reach a level of financial stability where making money is not all there is to life. To some, this means the ability to fish where ever they want as that is their passion in life. To others it might just be the improvement or betterment of the industry that they made the money in and they feel passionate about. There are 365 days in a year, if you don't have to worry every minute about bills and money, why not spend some of those days, the money you earned in that industry and the knowledge gained trying to improve it. Unlike some people, others don't have PROFIT as the primary motivation for their actions. This could be their form of recreation.
 
Larry Hinckley said:


The NFPA has a large and impressive list of professionals on its commitee. They are business men such as yourself. People such as Daryl Mirza{past President of PWNA}, Phil Ackland {Founding President of IKECA}, Doc Reisman {Past President of PWNA}, Barney Besal {Immediate Past President of IKECA}, Nelson Dilg {IKECA Board of Directors} and the late Fred Kahn {Past President of IKECA} and owner of Guardian Maintenance out of Dallas, TX just to mention a few greatmen who have given unselfishly of their time and money to further the industry. I promise you the NFPA 96 is a serious set of standards. They are not being written to satisfy someones personal financial agenda.
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I think Ed's point was the fact that these men do use their positions for financial gain. Not sure of any that would better represent the industry though. Kind of a catch 22.

FYI, the list above contains some of "the good ol' boys" referred to on other forums.
 
dodsonish said:
I think Ed's point was the fact that these men do use their positions for financial gain. Not sure of any that would better represent the industry though. Kind of a catch 22.

FYI, the list above contains some of "the good ol' boys" referred to on other forums.
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welder said:
Unlike some people, others don't have PROFIT as the primary motivation for their actions.
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In a discreet subtle way I agreed with you and Przrat, if you read this section of my post. I have spent roughly 6 months re-searching this industry prior to moving into it, lock stock and barrel, so to speak. During that research, it is not hard to find out who the profiteers are, those that help others with ulterior motives, from all levels of the business. I have not personally experienced these effects, just read about such things, so I don't feel at liberty to say anything first hand.
 
I am if north Fla (Tallahassee)and would like to get training in kitchen hood cleaning. I am willing to work as a helper for free. long hour not a problem.
I have a h.m.o and workmens comp.waver
Johnson Pressure washing
Tal Fl.
 
jajohnso said:
I am if north Fla (Tallahassee)and would like to get training in kitchen hood cleaning. I am willing to work as a helper for free. long hour not a problem.
I have a h.m.o and workmens comp.waver
Johnson Pressure washing
Tal Fl.
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You will be better off coughing up the money to get the training and certification. Ask any jack of all trades to build you a house and he will. They will not pull the proper permits and when it comes time to sue him for not installing the plumbing right his response to you will be " I thought you knew I wasnt a certified building contractor." :eek:
 
RHLpressurewashing said:
You will be better off coughing up the money to get the training and certification. Ask any jack of all trades to build you a house and he will. They will not pull the proper permits and when it comes time to sue him for not installing the plumbing right his response to you will be " I thought you knew I wasnt a certified building contractor." :eek:
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You are right If I am going to do it I should do it right
I Will look for a program near Fla.
I did want to get a look see before putting out the cash.
Thanks
 
Przrat said:
If I were a person considering starting a hood cleaning business and was looking at these forums I be immediately intimidated. I would think that I needed a lot more expensive equipment and specialized training than I really do. Most of the posters appear to have trailers with 3500 psi hot water machines and trucks to pull them. Along with specialized equipment like spinners, magnetic scrapers, exotic foamers and expensive certifications.

Actually you can start in this business without the big machines and trucks and equipment and certification. This may be unpopular but it is true. I use an electric 1200 psi machine, a small van and run off the restaurants hot water. Plus I reuse plastic sheeting. Another poster uses just a hose! Point is, whatever it takes to get the entire system clean, is ok to use. That means if you clean it with a rag and a scrub pad and do it right, you are in. In most areas certification is optional. For now.

I think these forums are here to help people in the business and to guide people looking to start off. Information and help.
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Wow guys, intense thread! Back to the original post...

I was at a restaurant today (hamburger joint) to give them a bid for power washing, and the manager asked if I do hoods. I let her know it was something I was looking into. She wants the pw and hood cleaning as a package deal.

I only do power washing & coatings, so I know nothing about hood/vent cleaning. Any advice on getting into it? Thanks!
 
dodsonish said:
I think Ed's point was the fact that these men do use their positions for financial gain. Not sure of any that would better represent the industry though. Kind of a catch 22.

FYI, the list above contains some of "the good ol' boys" referred to on other forums.
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Cool youtube video! Any advice on adding hood cleaning to my pw business? Had a fast food joint ask me today if I could do both.
 
They have classes all over the place, usually from $2000 and the sky is the limit.

I would go work with someone for a week or two then take it from there, some insurance companies want a certificate from a class in order to insure you but a couple people have told me that some insurance companies do not.

There are things that you need to be taught so you don't make expensive mistakes, even when you are careful.

Go to the back where the dumpster is and stay there a while smelling the container where they dump the used oil and imagine going home smelling like that sometimes for those very dirty jobs.

Some guys really know how to clean and do not get too dirty, I would learn from those guys.
 
MHasterok said:
Wow guys, intense thread! Back to the original post...

I was at a restaurant today (hamburger joint) to give them a bid for power washing, and the manager asked if I do hoods. I let her know it was something I was looking into. She wants the pw and hood cleaning as a package deal.

I only do power washing & coatings, so I know nothing about hood/vent cleaning. Any advice on getting into it? Thanks!
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I do stuff in Marana but soon will be in Tucson alot more....:pleasantry:
 
Christopher said:
They have classes all over the place, usually from $2000 and the sky is the limit.

I would go work with someone for a week or two then take it from there, some insurance companies want a certificate from a class in order to insure you but a couple people have told me that some insurance companies do not.

There are things that you need to be taught so you don't make expensive mistakes, even when you are careful.

Go to the back where the dumpster is and stay there a while smelling the container where they dump the used oil and imagine going home smelling like that sometimes for those very dirty jobs.

Some guys really know how to clean and do not get too dirty, I would learn from those guys.
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So your talking SMACK about guys that get dirty!! :poke:
 
No, I am not talking smack, just telling how the aroma is and how they can get a preview before they go and start investing in the business.

hahahahahahaha
 
Christopher said:
No, I am not talking smack, just telling how the aroma is and how they can get a preview before they go and start investing in the business.

hahahahahahaha
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if you want help with the craigslist ads let me know .
i was once running almost 300 they kept me running.
 
MHasterok said:
Cool youtube video! Any advice on adding hood cleaning to my pw business? Had a fast food joint ask me today if I could do both.
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My advice, call Lou:nhl_checking:and have him do the hood work for you while you're doing the flatwork. You guys could network for each other:kiss3:. Unless you're looking to get into KEC full time it probably isn't worth your time. Just because you're good at pressure washing doesn't mean you'll do well at KEC.....and vice versa. I'm diggin the new smileys here.:dance3:
 
dodsonish said:
My advice, call Lou:nhl_checking:and have him do the hood work for you while you're doing the flatwork. You guys could network for each other:kiss3:. Unless you're looking to get into KEC full time it probably isn't worth your time. Just because you're good at pressure washing doesn't mean you'll do well at KEC.....and vice versa. I'm diggin the new smileys here.:dance3:
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He has a point..........what's your service area Mike?
 
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