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Any reclaim experts care to share their pick of the best equipment. I'd like to clean, pick up, recycle and reuse, preferably in one step, and have capacity for 6-8 hours. Does this equipment exist? Would like all in one machine, that gets hooked up to pressure washer. Any help is appreciated. As far as pricing on flat concrete, thinking $ .20 per square foot. High, low???

zippo
 
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There are a lot of different options out there for reclaim equipment. There are some things that you need to consider. The biggest one is what are you washing , and what do you need to reclaim? That would be the biggest issue. Also, everyone wants to spend as little as possible, but sometimes the best equipment is not the cheapest, and sometimes you can do something really cheap and still have more than adequate equipment. So I guess the first question is, What are you cleaning, and what type of locations?

As for the .20 cents a square foot, that seems a little bit on the pricey side to me. But every location is different, and every situation is different.

Scott Stone
 
My rig, cost me 50K to set up. I cleaned nothing but service bay floors, so I could run everything closed loop for about a max of 5 hours. That seemed to be my cap before I had to dump and re-fill. Got to be too filthy after 5 hours. Really greasy floors.

I run a Steel Eagle fury 2400, Water treatment technologies treatment unit, a vac-boom, and then my standard pw and other accessories. I paid 50K for everything on the back of the truck. Replaced everything at once and sold my old unit. I bought everything brand new, and paid full pop 5 years ago. Most everything is A LOT cheaper now.

As far as pricing, even after moving my op to full compliance, I could still barely break 5 cents a sq. ft. for weekly accounts. If you could get 20, I would be thoroughly impressed. This area sucks for getting the pricing you should though. So, I am the probably the wrong person to be commenting on pricing. :)
 
Zippo my unit is not considered closed loop as I use my Whisper Wash Big Guy but other then that I also use Vacuboom http://www.vacuboom.com/ and Water Treatment Tech. http://www.watertreatmenttech.com/

My unit is the MD 36 and my vacuboom is 30 foot with double motor. I will post pictures of my rig this coming week, been saying it long enough so it will be posted. Several pics to cover it all.

As for your price, if you can get that great but I think you will find it is on the high side indeed. Could be that is the going rate back East, I am not really sure but think not.



Jon
 
SO Kendra when are you going to show what seems to be a kick butt set up that you have? What kind of truck do you store this equipment in?

How do you like the Steel Eagle fury 2400? I'm hearing mixed reviews on this machine.

I'm just starting to crack the commercial market(A slow progress compared to the residential market) and so far I haven't had to worry about reclaiming my water. I expect in the future I may have to reclaim my water especially if I go into the Big Apple(NY City) which so far I have passed up on.
 
Well,

Quite honestly, I HATE the Steel Eagle sytem. The theory is great, but my unit is # 65 or something off the original line, and the customer service from Steel Eagle, is let me see....... NONEXISTENT!!!!! I have been around and around with them everytime I had problems, and always wound up paying for a tech to fix it, that I constantly heard the comment from "Wow, I've never done this before". Quite the vote of confidence, especially at the cost of 60 bucks an hour..... Unfortunately when I bought it, there really wan't anything else out there that would even come close to doing what I needed, so I really didn't have much of a choice.

I think that since I am going to have to dig out a bunch of pics now for the Delco contest, I have truly talked about it enough.... You will have to wait one more week though, so I can get back into town and dig them all out of storage!!

The truck is a Fire Engine red, Chevy, crew-cab dually, with a stake-bed on the back. Everything is mounted to the stake-bed. And the stake bed, we put the spray on bedliner on to color match the truck. It is really a beauty!!
 
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We are going to be cleaning at a few hundred different locations, whenever they call. There are a huige total of square footage involved, but no guarantee as to when and how much each time. The basic work is concrete cleaning, just built up dirt, grime, grase, gum, the usual.

We are getting $ .6- $ .12 per square foot, and I just thought expensive equipment and longer work time would translate to higher charges. Guess not.

Kendra/Jon, how many square feet per hour can one man (woman) do with the type of equipmet you have? Does it translate to $65 per hour or more? Thanks for the input.

zippo
 
Most of my jobs were an average of 4 hours. Not Including set-up and tear down. Once I had gotten it down to a science, that is... But I could average a 20,000 sq ft. job in about 4-5 hours. And I made about 100-150 an hour.

These are all approximations. But I guess about 5K sq. ft. an hour.

The true square footage though, would vary based on how much stuff I had to work around. Lifts, equipment, etc. The 20,000 sq ft number was the total square footage for all of the bays and aprons.
 
Zippo I assume that $65 per hour your asking is net and not gross since employee's, fuel cost, equipment and other expenses eat into it so yes you can net that much.

Zippo that .06 -.12 per sq. ft. is much more in line then the .20 per sq. ft. in your first post.

As to how long or how much one can do, good question since the condition of the job is going to dictate to a certain extent that answer. I have one helper and I believe Kendra did too.

One word of advice to all who use the vacuboom, flip the suction parts over before dragging them to the next area to be used or you will ruin them. Oh and when storing them store them bottom side UP, I did not the first time and one corner is now bent a bit.

Jon
 
Sorry Jon, I did forget to give you some hard learned info about the vacu-boom didn't I? :p

I tried to remember everything!!

Take Jon's advice about the vacu-boom, or you will learn the hard way too!!!

Anf yes, the prices I quoted per hour are definitely gross, not net, and I had one other person helping with the prep and the continuity. Believe it or not, eventually I could do the same job alone at that pace too though. Like anything else, you get it down to a science. I did the same jobs, the same way for years.
 
I think I finally know who Zippo was?

Zippo said:
Any reclaim experts care to share their pick of the best equipment. I'd like to clean, pick up, recycle and reuse, preferably in one step, and have capacity for 6-8 hours. Does this equipment exist? Would like all in one machine, that gets hooked up to pressure washer. Any help is appreciated. As far as pricing on flat concrete, thinking $ .20 per square foot. High, low???

zippo
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Reclaim that works

VERY interesting thread !
..thanks for reviving it Ron.
Reclaim suppliers have learned a lot over the years.
And now that more people are ACTIVE-ly using the equipment,
systems have been refined nicely.

As your jobsites get larger, and contracts get bigger, suppliers are working a bit harder for your money..
..LOTS harder.
I'm just glad I have the patents I do..
I am CONVINCED you'all are more concerned with performance per dollar that ever.

Reclaim that works does a truely compelling demo.

So, who's Zippo ??
 
Since I bought the Sirocco I have gotten pretty used to using it. I also have a hydrotek reclaim unit, even the vacuum hose quality plays into how well it works, I put the hose from the hydrotek on the sirocco and it didn't seem to work as well. I switched back and it was back to normal. So now I will be ordering another 100 ft of the red hose from sirocco.
 
Sirocco Jerry said:
VERY interesting thread !
..thanks for reviving it Ron.
Reclaim suppliers have learned a lot over the years.
And now that more people are ACTIVE-ly using the equipment,
systems have been refined nicely.

As your jobsites get larger, and contracts get bigger, suppliers are working a bit harder for your money..
..LOTS harder.
I'm just glad I have the patents I do..
I am CONVINCED you'all are more concerned with performance per dollar that ever.

Reclaim that works does a truely compelling demo.

So, who's Zippo ??
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Jerrry, I would like to get a closed loop system in the future. Do you have a system that you can run a full 8-10 hour day without cleaning filters etc?
 
TNshaun said:
Jerrry, I would like to get a closed loop system in the future. Do you have a system that you can run a full 8-10 hour day without cleaning filters etc?
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That's a great question, like to hear the answer myself?
 
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