Qualified Contractor membership,

Lance, actually it would have more punch than the pwna because they dont require that of members. you dont need to prove you have insurance or any other form of being a legitamate contractor.


you could be a gold certified member without insurance. Thats nice.
 
I'm not saying that in the future the BBS wouldnt have a certification program or adopt one already in place?


I just think this should be a first step in the right direction.


remember that would be more than what is currently in place now with other organizations.

they forgot something so simple but yet so fundamental...


ok... example... i find a fully certified PWNA contractor??? this is and example.

he the fully certified guy i expect.... master certified. then by and accident he burns my house to the ground. next i find out hes not fully ins. wouldnt missing this be a mistake?
 
Its the customer's responsibility to make sure they are hiring a contractor with insurance...........no one elses. Why do you think when you do work for big companies, they always ask for an insurance certificate?..............its because they know better! A lot of customers are just ignorant to the fact that contractors need to be insured.............but, is that really our problem?

Out of curiosity...............why would a yellow page ad be a requirement?? Does the lack of a yellow page ad make someone any less of a powerwasher?? I think not. I suppose the only plus to that would be you know they have a business phone number. But, really, its not rocket science to get a business phone number and your free yellow page ad...........so, what does that prove?
 
PWNA should require basic low level item like liability, workers comp, state contractor lic. and a cert. of some kind. The problem that would reduce the membership. If they would put nails in the requirement I would pay more because in TIME that membership would be worth more than it is now. It comes down to who has what it takes to make this change-we need things like this and a few good programs,

David:cool:
 
Ron, so maybe I'm confused here but why would you want to set-up something like this outside of PWNA? I thought you were a member of PWNA? Couldn't PWNA do this? Wouldn't it make sense for PWNA to do this? Couldn't this tie into PWNA's own membership program? Why not work with the "leaders" from PWNA and try and implement this through them? Of course this is PWNA so they might take your idea and warp it into some watered down version of nothing like they did to Kendra's environmental certification program, but you never know...
:D
 
These ideas of course can be a PWNA program. I think they missed the boat. Mike Hughes is a board member and he doesn’t see the advantage. Actually the fundamental principal behind such and idea has been lost. I realize that your opinion may not reflect the entire board’s view.


OK lets invision a contractor directory on this BBS and lets say customers are searching for someone to clean a deck.

Pwi has listed the fundamental requirements in hiring a good contractor. Of course we all know that it’s not full proof. A good contractor or bad can have ins. he could have a yellow page ad as well.

Now we ad a couple of your references and maybe some other certifications that you have. Basically just providing a little inf. about the contractors that they are proud and want to participate.


I think that having a certification program and then not even requiring the contractor to prove any legitimacy is crazy. I realize that some will have problems with this type of thing. Some of us don’t run legitimate businesses.


Lance, allow the PWNA to start this. I welcome the PWNA to take any idea I have and run with it. Let’s do it. How about they start by supporting the round table meetings????????


Back to the basics about my idea about the qualified contractor program. It’s going to be free like everything else. We can do it together and it could be a simple thing.

I think we could give contractors on the BBS a preferred status. A qualified contractor status.

Many folks talk about the idiots that come on these bbs and cause problems. Many folks want contractors to list teles and other things about themselves. Well this might be and opportunity to promote the BBS and get something for your self out of the deal.


Just and idea , a diamond or a piece of coal?
 
Ron Musgraves said:
These ideas of course can be a PWNA program. I think they missed the boat. Mike Hughes is a board member and he doesn’t see the advantage. Actually the fundamental principal behind such and idea has been lost. I realize that your opinion may not reflect the entire board’s view.
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I did not have the PWNA in mind with that post...........the original topic had nothing to do with the PWNA.
 
To Whoever Wants to Read This

I made my feelings clear about this in an earlier reply. Some might call what I said a tirade, but it's how I feel, and since this thread has become interesting to some I'd like to ask a few questions to whoever wants to answer.

1. How many perspective customers do you think would browse a BBS to search out a perspective Contractor for a job?

2. Knowing that the criteria would have to be refined what would you consider to be a mandatory list of requirements to be met in order to be eligable for this certification?

3. How many Contractors out of every 50 would you guess to be "clean" enough to gain such "status" on this or any other BBS or organization??

I cannot and won't speak for the guys/girls in our business who do Flat Work, or wash Decks, Gutters, Exhaust Fans, etc. because I Contract strictly to Fleets. But will tell you without reservation that where I'm at it would be a helluva stretch to say that 5 Contractors out of 50 would meet even the minimum criteria set forth by an organization looking to grant certification to us.

For myself, I'm not in the yellow pages, don't want or need signs on my trucks, and to blow the whistle on myself maybe, I don't feel it necessary to get a business license or even a permit to work in a town I'm only going to be spending a few days in.

Up until recently I could care less who was out there, what they were washing, and how much they were charging. But when the playing field gets way out of balance and starts to affect me that's when I start blowing my horn. Some of these guys can AFFORD to work for what you or I would probably consider less than minimum.

BBS or PWNA (first time I've said PWNA on here), beats me!!! I'm not sure it would work no matter who does the "Certification", and if this does come to pass good luck to the lucky few who qualify.

Here's my phone number just in case someone in California wants a job done by someone who's qualified and legal: 805-750-6423

Have a Good Day
 
Ron M.

From Ron M.

I have a new qualification,,, a company logo. I know it might seem silly but i think it should be a qualification. Its simple but i believe it show professionalism
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Are you talking about a logo to be used on the BBS?
 
Well I guess I don't meet the qualifactions, I tried yellow pages and got ONE call in a year.

I did not pass the test.

Why require an ad in the yellow pages Ron?

It works for some but not all. heck my ad even said Industrial/commercial and the call was from a home owner so go figure.

Jon
 
Jon, yellow page advertising is better for residential customers than commercial/industrial. It's better to market commercial customers via faxing, direct mail, personal meetings, lunches, etc. They've got so many people trying to get their business already, why would they bother looking in the yellow pages? We stopped advertising in the B to B out here years ago because our residential yellow page advertising was doing so much better than the yellow page advertising directed at businesses. Just mainly a different target audience. We knew there was a problem when we went to our year end stats and found that even the commercial customers we had developed through the yellow pages came to us through the residential yellow pages and not the b to b.

Hope that helps.
 
Lance,

Glad to see you on here! Sorry we were not able to get together when I was in Pittsburgh.
 
The contractor listing was the whole idea of the "sister" board I brought up last winter with the marketing team.

It would be easy enough to implement. And, doesn't really need to be "policed". It's about lead generation for the contractors. It's a money making idea.

Beth:cool:
 
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