PWNA/UAMCC Outreach

For the record we have already been reaching out to them.

Multiple UAMCC Board members and Committee heads have emailed or left messages for them to call back.

As of today not a single PWNA board member has returned a call or email.

We were accused of interfering with OC prior to Robert's interaction with them.

The Western Environmental Chair, Jim Gamble, accused me of doing something to "cause" the BMPs to be changed when I was at Disneyland with my family in 2012.

First off, I denied it because it wasn't true. Then I produced evidence that I did not go to the OCWatersheds when I was in LA.

Now that we know that the BMPs were NOT going to be changed at all, and now that Allison has filed the FOIA request, AND interviewed Mr. Boon, wouldn't you think it would be honest reporting to let people know that not only has Robert been lying to us, but Jim Gamble is lying also about me?

And where does Ty Eubanks and Jim Gamble fit in on all this? What about the rest of their Enviro team?

Does anyone really think we, at the UAMCC, want to work with or alongside LIARS?

I don't.

We all know what Robert did and we know that Gamble lies so much one of the Nevada officials stated "another lie by Jim Gamble" in an email to a colleague.

What kind of org would keep someone in a position where they interact with the public after a statement like that by an official??????

I certainly agree that personal matters should be left out of any discussion. But being a liar isn't a personal matter, it is a professional matter. Especially when the ones doing the lying are entrusted with tasks that affect all of us.

It is impossible to make agreements between two groups if one of the two has no integrity. Purge out the liars, whoever they are, and lets get down to doing some great things for our industry. Together.
 
Tony Shelton said:
For the record we have already been reaching out to them.

Multiple UAMCC Board members and Committee heads have emailed or left messages for them to call back.

As of today not a single PWNA board member has returned a call or email.

We were accused of interfering with OC prior to Robert's interaction with them.

The Western Environmental Chair, Jim Gamble, accused me of doing something to "cause" the BMPs to be changed when I was at Disneyland with my family in 2012.

First off, I denied it because it wasn't true. Then I produced evidence that I did not go to the OCWatersheds when I was in LA.

Now that we know that the BMPs were NOT going to be changed at all, and now that Allison has filed the FOIA request, AND interviewed Mr. Boon, wouldn't you think it would be honest reporting to let people know that not only has Robert been lying to us, but Jim Gamble is lying also about me?

And where does Ty Eubanks and Jim Gamble fit in on all this? What about the rest of their Enviro team?

Does anyone really think we, at the UAMCC, want to work with or alongside LIARS?

I don't.

We all know what Robert did and we know that Gamble lies so much one of the Nevada officials stated "another lie by Jim Gamble" in an email to a colleague.

What kind of org would keep someone in a position where they interact with the public after a statement like that by an official??????

I certainly agree that personal matters should be left out of any discussion. But being a liar isn't a personal matter, it is a professional matter. Especially when the ones doing the lying are entrusted with tasks that affect all of us.

It is impossible to make agreements between two groups if one of the two has no integrity. Purge out the liars, whoever they are, and lets get down to doing some great things for our industry. Together.
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Well said Tony


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Tony Shelton said:
For the record we have already been reaching out to them.

Multiple UAMCC Board members and Committee heads have emailed or left messages for them to call back.

As of today not a single PWNA board member has returned a call or email.

We were accused of interfering with OC prior to Robert's interaction with them.

The Western Environmental Chair, Jim Gamble, accused me of doing something to "cause" the BMPs to be changed when I was at Disneyland with my family in 2012.

First off, I denied it because it wasn't true. Then I produced evidence that I did not go to the OCWatersheds when I was in LA.

Now that we know that the BMPs were NOT going to be changed at all, and now that Allison has filed the FOIA request, AND interviewed Mr. Boon, wouldn't you think it would be honest reporting to let people know that not only has Robert been lying to us, but Jim Gamble is lying also about me?

And where does Ty Eubanks and Jim Gamble fit in on all this? What about the rest of their Enviro team?

Does anyone really think we, at the UAMCC, want to work with or alongside LIARS?

I don't.

We all know what Robert did and we know that Gamble lies so much one of the Nevada officials stated "another lie by Jim Gamble" in an email to a colleague.

What kind of org would keep someone in a position where they interact with the public after a statement like that by an official??????

I certainly agree that personal matters should be left out of any discussion. But being a liar isn't a personal matter, it is a professional matter. Especially when the ones doing the lying are entrusted with tasks that affect all of us.

It is impossible to make agreements between two groups if one of the two has no integrity. Purge out the liars, whoever they are, and lets get down to doing some great things for our industry. Together.
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Yea. I don't care to work alongside liars or sociopaths.
 
All the more that whatever happens, phone call or f2f it should recorded. It will be on record just like the FOIA. Because no matter what's said it will be twisted in one way or the other. Then we are back to the he said she said. Just my opinion
 
I agree with you Bryan, especially with what just happened with the OC issue, look at what the guys involved started lying about, stuff and people not even involved are accused of meddling in things when they were not even there.

I feel strongly that the call or face to face should be recorded because if you havent seen enough of their lying and manipulating, they will surely lie and twist things about this meeting or call, almost a guarantee. It is a shame but the truth. These guys cannot be trusted no matter how many olive branches or olive trees you have to put out there.
 
Christopher said:
I agree with you Bryan, especially with what just happened with the OC issue, look at what the guys involved started lying about, stuff and people not even involved are accused of meddling in things when they were not even there.

I feel strongly that the call or face to face should be recorded because if you havent seen enough of their lying and manipulating, they will surely lie and twist things about this meeting or call, almost a guarantee. It is a shame but the truth. These guys cannot be trusted no matter how many olive branches or olive trees you have to put out there.
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Guys let's wait be patient , keep in mind the Uamcc represents multiple trades in our industry.

The Pwna has always been strong on they only represent there members.

Aside from Robert the Pwna doesn't move outside there own.

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:

RE: PRIVATE CONFERENCE CALL - UAMCC/PWNA

UPDATE

Contact has been made between both organizations, however, due to the relatively short notice in the announcement of this proposed conference call, it has not been possible for all parties involved to attend.

Steven Button
Communications Liaison
UAMCC
 
In other words the PWNA doesn't want to have the call. They can make up an excuse for anything. I thought you gave them plenty of notice Steven.
 
Steven Button said:
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:

RE: PRIVATE CONFERENCE CALL - UAMCC/PWNA

UPDATE

Contact has been made between both organizations, however, due to the relatively short notice in the announcement of this proposed conference call, it has not been possible for all parties involved to attend.

Steven Button
Communications Liaison
UAMCC
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Thanks for continued help Steven


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I think the outreach attempt is great- Kudos to Steve

However, if they or anyone else for that matter outside the UAMCC doesn't want to speak to help make this industry better then the hell with them

If that becomes the case then focus on within our org to make it stronger and better and forget everyone else..just my thoughts
 
I spoke with PWNA president John Nearon yesterday, and we both appear to share the same objectives. This was our second call and we should be speaking again next week.

In regard to the conference call, this is not necessarily the litmus test of how we move forward. I am confident that we can achieve something positive in the coming weeks.
 
Steven Button said:
I spoke with PWNA president John Nearon yesterday, and we both appear to share the same objectives. This was our second call and we should be speaking again next week.

In regard to the conference call, this is not necessarily the litmus test of how we move forward. I am confident that we can achieve something positive in the coming weeks.
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Awesome job Steven!!!

Keep up the Great work Buddy!!!
 
Steven Button said:
I spoke with PWNA president John Nearon yesterday, and we both appear to share the same objectives. This was our second call and we should be speaking again next week.

In regard to the conference call, this is not necessarily the litmus test of how we move forward. I am confident that we can achieve something positive in the coming weeks.
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Steven, thank you for stepping up to the plate on this one! Great work.

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