Russ Spence
Commercial Pressure Wash Expert
they do a good job marketing their product
Professional website
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taselton2
Softwashing Instructor/Moderator
I heard they use a copper & zinc solution for treatments and "spray now - clean in 3-4 months deal" from a guy in Central Florida.
Russ Spence
Commercial Pressure Wash Expert
no way that would work well here ..... intangeable dont sell
Mike Sullivan
New member
Have you seen their website? The video of the guy "low pressure washing" the roofs, clearly shows the chemicals are not doing much. It is still black and streaky and requires a great deal of rinsing to come clean. Not for me.
Apple Roof Cleaning
Roof Cleaning Instructor
Yes they do sell Russ, Lou Saban sold for several million, LOL
Russ Spence
Commercial Pressure Wash Expert
Hahahahahahahahahaha, I Love You Man !!!!!!
It's a shame that many guys on these boards rely on the ignorant opinions of a handful of people that don't know what they are talking about.
Roof-A-Cide has several different products designed for different applications. No one has to wait 3-4 months for a roof to come clean - unless they want to. And we have thousands of customers that prefer to do this.
If someone wants to have their roof cleaned immediately, we have products that can do this - without chlorine, percarbonate, or hydroxides.
If you prefer to use chlorine, we don't care and we have never told anyone that that is the wrong way to clean a roof. Chris from Apple is a prime example of the fact that it can be done professionally without damage to the roof - although there are thousands of "companies" that don't have Chris' experience and don't know what they are doing, which does frequently result in damage to the property.
Even though we will probably clean more roofs in one year than most guys here will do over their entire career, we don't focus on roof cleaning. We specialize in stain prevention - and we have the only EPA approved product in the country specifically designed and approved for use on roofs.
We apply our Roof-A-Cide product every few years to eliminate the need for cleaning - which results in properties that looks great year after year.
It benefits the homeowners because they don't have to worry about potential damage to their roof or landscaping from pressure cleaning or chlorine. And it benefits the contractors because they reduce their labor costs by about 70%, they don't have to worry about plant damage, replacing equipment every 6-12 month because the chlorine has destroyed it, and they establish a residual income from reapplications every few years.
You also might keep in mind that chlorine may work just fine for that’s doing an occasional roof here and there – but for companies that do it on a Professional level – sometimes doing 1,000 of them at one time, chlorine becomes less of a viable option because of the environmental concerns, the cost of the equipment that will be destroyed, and the health effects it will have on employees.
And once again, when our Applicators come onto a property to do a Roof-A-Cide Application, they are going to be finished in a fraction of the time it will take any other company. This is probably not a big deal to someone that is working by themselves doing 3-4 roofs a week, but if you’re a company that has 500 to a 1,000 roofs to do and you’re paying employees by the hour with benefits and workers comp - cutting your labor costs by 70% means saving a lot of money and getting them off the roof to reduce the risk of injury is also a major concern.
I don’t expect anyone on these boards to become part of our program. It’s too expensive for most small contractors and you will never do enough roofs to justify the cost. Our program is designed for companies that are doing AT LEAST 500 roofs each year. If this doesn't work for you, be professional enough to just accept it and stop making things up to compensate for the fact that you can't offer your customers a better option.
For anyone that wants to see whether or not the product works, feel free to visit our pictures & video page to see some of the roofs around the country that were cleaned using our products:
http://www.roof-a-cide.com/Pictures & Video.html
Roof-A-Cide has several different products designed for different applications. No one has to wait 3-4 months for a roof to come clean - unless they want to. And we have thousands of customers that prefer to do this.
If someone wants to have their roof cleaned immediately, we have products that can do this - without chlorine, percarbonate, or hydroxides.
If you prefer to use chlorine, we don't care and we have never told anyone that that is the wrong way to clean a roof. Chris from Apple is a prime example of the fact that it can be done professionally without damage to the roof - although there are thousands of "companies" that don't have Chris' experience and don't know what they are doing, which does frequently result in damage to the property.
Even though we will probably clean more roofs in one year than most guys here will do over their entire career, we don't focus on roof cleaning. We specialize in stain prevention - and we have the only EPA approved product in the country specifically designed and approved for use on roofs.
We apply our Roof-A-Cide product every few years to eliminate the need for cleaning - which results in properties that looks great year after year.
It benefits the homeowners because they don't have to worry about potential damage to their roof or landscaping from pressure cleaning or chlorine. And it benefits the contractors because they reduce their labor costs by about 70%, they don't have to worry about plant damage, replacing equipment every 6-12 month because the chlorine has destroyed it, and they establish a residual income from reapplications every few years.
You also might keep in mind that chlorine may work just fine for that’s doing an occasional roof here and there – but for companies that do it on a Professional level – sometimes doing 1,000 of them at one time, chlorine becomes less of a viable option because of the environmental concerns, the cost of the equipment that will be destroyed, and the health effects it will have on employees.
And once again, when our Applicators come onto a property to do a Roof-A-Cide Application, they are going to be finished in a fraction of the time it will take any other company. This is probably not a big deal to someone that is working by themselves doing 3-4 roofs a week, but if you’re a company that has 500 to a 1,000 roofs to do and you’re paying employees by the hour with benefits and workers comp - cutting your labor costs by 70% means saving a lot of money and getting them off the roof to reduce the risk of injury is also a major concern.
I don’t expect anyone on these boards to become part of our program. It’s too expensive for most small contractors and you will never do enough roofs to justify the cost. Our program is designed for companies that are doing AT LEAST 500 roofs each year. If this doesn't work for you, be professional enough to just accept it and stop making things up to compensate for the fact that you can't offer your customers a better option.
For anyone that wants to see whether or not the product works, feel free to visit our pictures & video page to see some of the roofs around the country that were cleaned using our products:
http://www.roof-a-cide.com/Pictures & Video.html
Russ Spence
Commercial Pressure Wash Expert
I don’t expect anyone on these boards to become part of our program. It’s too expensive for most small contractors and you will never do enough roofs to justify the cost. Our program is designed for companies that are doing AT LEAST 500 roofs each year. If this doesn't work for you, be professional enough to just accept it and stop making things up to compensate for the fact that you can't offer your customers a better option.
hummm no offense buddy but thats the attitude i was speaking about ,i better not say anymore i see you know it all already
hummm no offense buddy but thats the attitude i was speaking about ,i better not say anymore i see you know it all already
Russ Spence
Commercial Pressure Wash Expert
ok ,look this is the attitude EVERYONE talks about ,we have fun ,develop relationships etc on here, we say what we think and respect the oponions of others, i am not gonna lower myself to trash talking on a board with you, all i want to show you is that i have never seen an open to discussion attitude from you concerning roof cleaning, i agree with you, your way works but so does ours. but i dont agree with the whole your better than everyone else attitude,.by saying that most cant afford because they are too small ........ yall dont have the market cornered in my opinion ,why dont we just stop the arguement and discuss the effects of leaving chems on a roof as compared to rinsing !!!!!! truce????
I have no interest in arguing with anyone here or making friends with anyone either.
I usually have to post in response to uninformed hacks making comments about our products – when they have no idea what they are talking about.
For instance:
As for a discussion on roof cleaning, those that have been doing it long enough know that there is no real discussion to be had. Bleach will work, it’s fast and it’s cost-effective for most people: spray it on and rinse it off – there’s not much to it. The companies that work with us know this – but they choose not to work with bleach for a number of different reasons.
The only real benefit of a discussion on these boards, with respect to roof cleaning, is not about the chemicals. It’s about new guys like you learning about equipment from experienced guys like Chris. I don’t take part in these discussions because our equipment is not designed for bleach.
And the only people saying “Theirs is the best way to clean a roof” are the people like you: people who haven’t been around long enough to work with different solutions and methods in order to make an informed and educated decision on which methods actually work and which don’t. The most successful companies do this - and then they make an educated choice as to which chemicals and methods that work best for their company and their customers.
I have known Chris from Apple for years and we talk on a regular basis. I have never, and would never, tell anyone that Chris has been cleaning roofs the wrong way for the last 14 years. And if you talk with Chris you’ll find that he has tried almost everything available to clean a roof. He doesn’t rely on someone else to do his testing or evaluations for him and he doesn’t jump to conclusions based on someone else’s comments – and as a result, he knows first-hand what will work and what won’t.
Lastly, if you don’t like my attitude, please understand that I really don’t care. When I have to waste my time responding to people that are either guessing about what we or just making negative comments about us with no basis in fact – I usually come off as less than friendly.
If I started posting things that were negative and totally untrue about your company, Aselton’s, or the amateur from NC, – I think you might not appreciate it. But I guess we can give it a shot.
I usually have to post in response to uninformed hacks making comments about our products – when they have no idea what they are talking about.
For instance:
- “no names and i was never involved just a lot of disagreements and the roof a cide guys never were open for discussion ..... there way was the only way and everyone else was wrong”
- “I heard they use a copper & zinc solution for treatments and "spray now - clean in 3-4 months deal" from a guy in Central Florida.”
- “Have you seen their website? The video of the guy "low pressure washing" the roofs, clearly shows the chemicals are not doing much. It is still black and streaky and requires a great deal of rinsing to come clean. Not for me.”
- “this is the attitude EVERYONE talks about” – Everyone?? All ten of you?
As for a discussion on roof cleaning, those that have been doing it long enough know that there is no real discussion to be had. Bleach will work, it’s fast and it’s cost-effective for most people: spray it on and rinse it off – there’s not much to it. The companies that work with us know this – but they choose not to work with bleach for a number of different reasons.
The only real benefit of a discussion on these boards, with respect to roof cleaning, is not about the chemicals. It’s about new guys like you learning about equipment from experienced guys like Chris. I don’t take part in these discussions because our equipment is not designed for bleach.
And the only people saying “Theirs is the best way to clean a roof” are the people like you: people who haven’t been around long enough to work with different solutions and methods in order to make an informed and educated decision on which methods actually work and which don’t. The most successful companies do this - and then they make an educated choice as to which chemicals and methods that work best for their company and their customers.
I have known Chris from Apple for years and we talk on a regular basis. I have never, and would never, tell anyone that Chris has been cleaning roofs the wrong way for the last 14 years. And if you talk with Chris you’ll find that he has tried almost everything available to clean a roof. He doesn’t rely on someone else to do his testing or evaluations for him and he doesn’t jump to conclusions based on someone else’s comments – and as a result, he knows first-hand what will work and what won’t.
Lastly, if you don’t like my attitude, please understand that I really don’t care. When I have to waste my time responding to people that are either guessing about what we or just making negative comments about us with no basis in fact – I usually come off as less than friendly.
If I started posting things that were negative and totally untrue about your company, Aselton’s, or the amateur from NC, – I think you might not appreciate it. But I guess we can give it a shot.
Russ Spence
Commercial Pressure Wash Expert
ok John .... have a good day
taselton2
Softwashing Instructor/Moderator
If I started posting things that were negative and totally untrue about your company, Aselton’s, or the amateur from NC, – I think you might not appreciate it. But I guess we can give it a shot.
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John Browne
American Roof Cleaning
Palm City, Florida
(772) 219-7907
John, do you use copper or zinc in your algae prevention solutions? I heard you did from a source I thought to be credible. Is this untrue?
When you came at me it was a misunderstanding that you ran wild with. I give you credit for your vengeance. Most everyone here uses s/h and tsp that is recomended by many different publications, even yourself. You posted this to my childrens teachers, etc.., is this true?
From: "john browne" <JMBrowne@roofcleaning.biz> View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
To: CHAIRESPTSO@LISTSERV.LEON.K12.FL.US
CC: "Tim Aselton" <taselton2@yahoo.com>
Subject: Unlicensed & Uninsured Contractors
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 20:55:27 -0400
"I just wanted to share my opinion with everyone
regarding a company we recently became aware of.
I have never used Tim Aselton Roof & Exterior
Softwashing, but I have a lot of experience with
services like his and most of it is not good.
Typically, these services spray undiluted pool
chlorine as a "Cleaning Agent". This is a very
dangerous and damaging process to both the roof
and the environment. It is also illegal in the state
of Florida. Many of these companies are not licensed
or insured - homeowners should always check!
He might have a good service - or he might not. I
think people should look for safer alternatives
and make up their own minds"
We'll be targeted all of the rest of these schools
over the next couple of days:
http://www.leon.k12.fl.us/schools.asp
When we're finished with those, we will move onto
the university staff at
FSU, FAMU, And TCC and then your Chambers of
Commerce.
I carry proper insurance and I am licensed to operate in my area. You don't know that for sure though, so I can understand your concern.
Telling people that it is illegal to clean roofs in florida with "chlorine" is misinforming the public, don't you agree?
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John Browne
American Roof Cleaning
Palm City, Florida
(772) 219-7907
John, do you use copper or zinc in your algae prevention solutions? I heard you did from a source I thought to be credible. Is this untrue?
When you came at me it was a misunderstanding that you ran wild with. I give you credit for your vengeance. Most everyone here uses s/h and tsp that is recomended by many different publications, even yourself. You posted this to my childrens teachers, etc.., is this true?
From: "john browne" <JMBrowne@roofcleaning.biz> View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
To: CHAIRESPTSO@LISTSERV.LEON.K12.FL.US
CC: "Tim Aselton" <taselton2@yahoo.com>
Subject: Unlicensed & Uninsured Contractors
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2005 20:55:27 -0400
"I just wanted to share my opinion with everyone
regarding a company we recently became aware of.
I have never used Tim Aselton Roof & Exterior
Softwashing, but I have a lot of experience with
services like his and most of it is not good.
Typically, these services spray undiluted pool
chlorine as a "Cleaning Agent". This is a very
dangerous and damaging process to both the roof
and the environment. It is also illegal in the state
of Florida. Many of these companies are not licensed
or insured - homeowners should always check!
He might have a good service - or he might not. I
think people should look for safer alternatives
and make up their own minds"
We'll be targeted all of the rest of these schools
over the next couple of days:
http://www.leon.k12.fl.us/schools.asp
When we're finished with those, we will move onto
the university staff at
FSU, FAMU, And TCC and then your Chambers of
Commerce.
I carry proper insurance and I am licensed to operate in my area. You don't know that for sure though, so I can understand your concern.
Telling people that it is illegal to clean roofs in florida with "chlorine" is misinforming the public, don't you agree?
DOG
owner
damn!^^ might want to talk to your lawyer on that?! almost sounds like libel?
In law, defamation is the communication of a statement that makes a false claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may harm the reputation of an individual, business, product, group, government or nation. Most jurisdictions provide legal actions, civil and/or criminal, to punish various kinds of defamation.
In law, defamation is the communication of a statement that makes a false claim, expressly stated or implied to be factual, that may harm the reputation of an individual, business, product, group, government or nation. Most jurisdictions provide legal actions, civil and/or criminal, to punish various kinds of defamation.
PressureWashingStarkeFL
Member
The company this thread is about aint even around anymore from the links that were provided.
AC Lockyer
New member
Wow I stopped counting roofs I had cleaned in 2003 and it was in excess of 50,000 and I wouldnt use your product. Not that it isnt a good option, it just always seemed backward. It was always easy to sell against your process. Havent seen a roof cleaning franchise / distributorship work long term yet. Maybe you will crack the code.
Please respect the little guys on this board! I started with one truck, a pressure washer and bleach in a pump-up sprayer. Then I did 27 mil in roof cleaning. One day a few of these guys you are seemingly discounting are gona kick all of our butts and rewrite the record books. I will even be a distant memory! THAT WILL BE GOOD!
Thanks,
AC
AC Lockyer
New member
Just checked.......website gone...............looks like he didnt last..............Roof-a-cide is a self fulfilling prophesy "sp"
AC