And that is how the discussion of what needs to be done, or said, gets started. We really do need to address the clean water act, and the ramifications of abiding by it. It is very easily, and commonly misunderstood, and sometimes intentionally misinterpreted, because people with an agenda what it interpreted "their" way. Look at the people, such as Mike H. or others that we all know, that intentionally try and get stricter enforcement, because they feel like that jusitfies a higher price, or because they think it makes it more likely for them to get the work. There are quite a few people that have made disinformation on the CWA, their lifes work, and intentionally, demean others when they can't compete.
I think one of the greatest faults, and what is causing the PWN* guys the greatest problem is that the guidelines that they are touting were done under the cover of darkenss, and not out in the open. It makes any efforts that tey put forth appear, at least, a little seedy, and dishonest. Their efforts would have been so much more effective if they had gotten contractor input at the beginning, middle and end of the process, instead of just dropping it and saying, this is what it is, do you like it?
Just my opinion.
BTW, Allison, you are free to call me if you want to ask more in depth questions.