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Some questions for you to think about which might help you decide:

Do you have a generator on the trailer for an AC version of a Delavan?

Would you rather have a battery powered or gas powered pump?

Do you have a outlet to plug in the charger at the end of the day or every other day for the Battery powered Delavan?

Are you concerned about the noise of the gas powered pump?

Do you have some mechanical skills to rebuild pumps when they need work or is there a shop close by that is reputable?

How many roofs do you do now or are you new? If you are new, I would start out small and build up because you never know your market or what customers might want as for service.

Are you good at selling and marketing? You will need to sell and market to inform and educate the customers about roof cleaning if they do not know that roofs can be cleaned.

There are so many options out there, just do the pro's and con's of each pump and go talk to people about their roofs, you never know if they would spend money to clean it or if they just do not care.

When you have done all this, that should narrow down your options of which pump you should get or which kit or full-setup.






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Still looking for the perfect pump. 3 MC-16's Comet in 6 months, went to Zeta40's, got a graveyard of 5 of those. Just bought another one yesterday. 1250 for pump only without gear reduction. manifolds fail constantly and diaphragms must be changed monthly at 130 bucks a pop. Leak money all over the county. Enough of that! Going to try the John Blue next. Aany one have any experiences ood or bad withese pumps. I have heard some good but no bad yet.

Any one want to share their secret maintenance plan on Zetas? That washer holding the diaphragm sucks. an these internal parts be coated with some type of protectant?
No air for me. Don't you need an air compressor and generator for that. My 14 ft trailer will look like a 2 story moving business. I heard udor will be beefing up shortly. I'm not sure I want them to get any more of my ins.
 
Here is an idea for you to think about for Roof Cleaning: Air Diaphragm Pump.

Many guys on the bbs's have switched over to these since they do a lot of Roof Cleaning and wanted the next level of pump. You can start out and even keep using the 12 volt systems but sometimes you need more distance or pressure to shoot further so you get a larger pump but with only so many psi and gpm you will only shoot so far.

You can get the Comet pump which is better and stronger than the 12 volt system (another step higher in the evolution in more roof cleaning) but it is still a pump which will wear out, parts will corrode, leaks will happen, etc......

Then you can get the diaphragm pump which is better but metal (even stainless steel) will go bad or start to rust with the exposure to chlorine liquid and gas. Some brands are better than others but it is a step higher thant he Comet and 12 volt systems.

Last you have the air diaphragm pumps like the Yamada, All Flow and another or two out there, some will handle the bleach but most will not, you will have to check and make sure they are made out of the best materials like Kynar, Viton, Teflon, etc... (Thanks Chris Tucker), many have been tried over the years but these materials hold out the best over all else.

The Yamada is a great brand of pump but the other brand out there
(All Flo) has been tested over and over and is the pump of choice for the distributors at Pressure Washer Products for many, many reasons, I don't remember them all but you can give them a call and talk to Lori or Rex and they will explain it to you.

Do you know Larry Millette? He has traveled down this road leaving Roof Cleaning pumps resting in peace over the years and evolved with the better pumps and a few months ago evolved to the highest step of evolution......................
the All Flo Air Diaphragm pump. You can read a little about it here:
http://www.propowerwash.com/board/upload/showthread.php?t=16851

This pump has been lab-tested by being submerged in the chlorine and then run and ran great, not many other pumps out there can claim that.
The parts of the pump are designed to last better with the corrosives, oxidizers and acids out there so you are getting a pump that is designed to better handle these types of chemicals and will do wo with far fewer problems.

One of the good things is that this Roof Cleaning pump can be rebuilt for under $60.00 if I remember correctly, Lori will give the current price for a rebuild kit if requested.

Larry is living a much-reduced stress life now thanks to the All Flo Air Diaphragm pump, just ask him about it here, PM him or PM him to give you a call or ask if you can call him first (we all only have so many cell-phone minutes, hahahahaha) and he will tell you all about it.

With an Air Diaphragm pump you will need an air compressor with a minimum of 10 cfm's to push the pump (no electric motors or gas engines on the pump, only the gas engine on the air compressor). Here is a popular air compressor sold at Home Depot:
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc...splay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

That kind of air compressor is called a "wheelbarrow" type and puts out a lot of cfm's (thanks Chris Tucker) and will do the job easily.

Since the All Flo puts out 9gpm's and you really do not need that much to clean roofs with having one person at the wand, you could easily "T" off the end of the hose and run 2 wands at 4.5 gpm's if you had a very large roof to better control runoff or just use what you need.

So, to end this, there are many different types of pumps out there and I am not bad-talking any brands or suppliers out there, there are different options available so depending on your budget, how many roofs you clean a day/week/month and your skills, that should help you decide what system to purchase.


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Some of the best knowledge out there in the chemical pump industry, some of the best customer service out there, some of the best product knowledge in the roof cleaning industry and much, much more at no additional charge!

Just so you know, I am not affiliated or receive any compensation whatsoever from any of the vendors here for talking about their products, just good, honest evaluations from what I have seen, heard or read.

Hope you are not too sleepy or tired after reading all this. hahahahaha
 
Wow Chris! Looks like you covered just about everything. LOL... :thumbup2:
 
My problem comes down to people no caring about their dirty roof. they seem to like the way it looks down here. but There is that select few i will be hitting. have about 4-5 customers lined up now. but seems like that is all i can get. I am going with the Fat boy as my first pump, cuz i like to have the extra power just in case and the $ diff. isnt to much. It all comes down to what pump you can afford and how much work you can getcleaning roofs.
 
I wish people around here cared about their roofs also.

I think it is going to take a lot of educating the customers to let them know and also show them that the roofs can be cleaned safely so they don't have to replace them, all at a fraction of the cost of replacement.
 
We understand that budget is probably the biggest factor to consider when purchasing a chlorine application system. The 12v pumps are great for the money. The Delavan 5850 is $115 and we recommend the 5/8" Kuri Tec hose for use with this pump. The next step up amondg many other 12v pumps is the Delavan Fatboy or 7870-101E. Use the 3/4" Kuri Tec Hose for maximum performance. Keep in mind that these pumps were NEVER meant to handle chlorine according to Steve at Delavan. Get your money's worth out of them with that understanding.

Repairing the Comet's prove be be expensive according to pressure247. These pumps fill a niche and serve a purpose. I am unsure at this point if these pumps are adequate for roof cleaning or chlorine application. You can purchase an air diaphragm pump, compressor and hose assemblies for about the same or less money.

The air diaphragm pumps have been around for many years now. The All-Flo KE038-B3 pump is DESIGNED to handle chlorine use. All wetted components are "A" rated for chlorine. (PVDF and Santoprene) You need at least a 4 hp compressor to result in 9 gpm. Compressors range from $400 to $800. One of our customers recently went to the post office and found a coupon for Lowe's in the 'change of address' notice. He saved 10% on the purchase of his compressor. We feel that the 1/2" or 5/8" Kuri Tec hose is recommended for this pump. Polypropylene fittings are best. However, we can't crimp the fittings on with a stainless collar. The poly will crack with our hydraulic crimper. Stainless is also great but sometimes a bit pricey for 316. Brass is durable, easy to get in a pinch and a good value. The air diaphragm and compressor set-up is the best option if you rely on using the equipment to put food on the table.

Should you have any questions, give me a call, shoot me an email or PM. Lori

Thank you for the help, Chris!!!
 
We understand that budget is probably the biggest factor to consider when purchasing a chlorine application system. The 12v pumps are great for the money. The Delavan 5850 is $115 and we recommend the 5/8" Kuri Tec hose for use with this pump. The next step up amondg many other 12v pumps is the Delavan Fatboy or 7870-101E. Use the 3/4" Kuri Tec Hose for maximum performance. Keep in mind that these pumps were NEVER meant to handle chlorine according to Steve at Delavan. Get your money's worth out of them with that understanding.

Repairing the Comet's prove be be expensive according to pressure247. These pumps fill a niche and serve a purpose. I am unsure at this point if these pumps are adequate for roof cleaning or chlorine application. You can purchase an air diaphragm pump, compressor and hose assemblies for less money.

The air diaphragm pumps have been around for many years now. The All-Flo KE038-B3 pump is DESIGNED to handle chlorine use. All wetted components are "A" rated for chlorine. (PVDF and Santoprene) You need at least a 4 hp compressor to result in 9 gpm. Compressors range from $400 to $800. One of our customers recently went to the post office and found a coupon for Lowe's in the 'change of address' notice. He saved 10% on the purchase of his compressor. We feel that the 1/2" or 5/8" Kuri Tec hose is recommended for this pump. Polypropylene fittings are best. However, we can't crimp the fittings on with a stainless collar. The poly will crack with our hydraulic crimper. Stainless is also great but sometimes a bit pricey for 316. Brass is durable, easy to get in a pinch and a good value. The air diaphragm and compressor set-up is the best option if you rely on using the equipment to put food on the table.

Should you have any questions, give me a call, shoot me an email or PM. Lori

Thank you for the help, Chris!!!
 
I have tried many different Roof Cleaning Pumps throughout the years. I've gone through countless 12 Volt pumps ranging from Sureflows and Flowjets to Delevans. I also tried the Comet MC-16 which I thought was going to be my savior when it came to Roof Cleaning mix applicators only to find out that it was more of a headache than anything. I now use a 12volt system for just applying chems to Concrete etc... and use nothing but the All-flow KE038-B3 For Roof Cleaning that Lori mentioned. After years of not listening to the pro's who use them, I now see what I was missing out on. It was the best move I ever made. If you can afford to make the move I highly recommend it. Don't waste time and thousands of dollars like I did on other Pumps that just don't cut it.
 
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