Thanks for checking e-bay for me, i saw the troy built you mentioned,but unfortunately its pick-up only in Cal. Did you see the Wildfire, It had a 13hp engine with 3800 psi. It did'nt list the gpm, but i have an inquiry in to find out. Do you know anything about that machine. I also found a Briggs with 3000psi and 4 gpm, but it is only 10hp for $889.00. The Briggs is local so no shipping. I was'nt able to be near a computer when the surface cleaner ended and lost the bid. I'll keep looking, I really want to set this business up for my days off the ambulance. Thanks for the input. GAmedic