My first time to the grime Scene in a awhile ..WOW

Tony Shelton said:
It was all BS Doug.

Jim told some people he couldn't clean the garage because of Labor Union issues. Those people told me so I tried to help.

Then he told some people he couldn't clean it because I interfered and kept him from getting the permit from the AHJs. ---- The emails prove that not only is that false, but they never even required him to get a permit in the first place.

Now he has Allison unknowingly falsely reporting that the reason he couldn't clean it was because the Rio required a higher insurance coverage. Rio events staff says that is false too.

He didn't even bring down his pressure washing trailer from California. What does that tell you about what his intentions were on cleaning a garage?

What is the matter with these people Doug?
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Using our industry magazine to assist in false reporting ?

Wow just wow!!

Sorry Allison , maybe story's should have references when they are political or stay away from these all together.


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Maybe I lost something in the reading. I followed the link and saw people calling out AC for the crap he is selling and the claims he makes. We did the exact same thing here. If a newbie or someone that doesn't know better wants to buy it, great. Fool and his money are easily parted and AC makes a buck, who cares. I didn't see anything in the post over there that has anything to do with the posts that are being made here. Maybe I am just not following it. I am not taking up for anyone there. Just don't see why someone going after someone hurting other contractors gets bashed when we are trying to do the same thing to the PWN@ .Maybe Jeannie C Riley said it best. Don't confuse the good fight with petty fighting.
 
offdutyfireman said:
Maybe I lost something in the reading. I followed the link and saw people calling out AC for the crap he is selling and the claims he makes. We did the exact same thing here. If a newbie or someone that doesn't know better wants to buy it, great. Fool and his money are easily parted and AC makes a buck, who cares. I didn't see anything in the post over there that has anything to do with the posts that are being made here. Maybe I am just not following it. I am not taking up for anyone there. Just don't see why someone going after someone hurting other contractors gets bashed when we are trying to do the same thing to the PWN@ .Maybe Jeannie C Riley said it best. Don't confuse the good fight with petty fighting.
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Your the one who opened my eyes , maybe you should take your own advice?

It's my bbs remember I can do what ever I want.

Oh yeah Beth always right to, so remember you owe her apologies.

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It is a shame that people will blame you because they had no clue of what they were getting into, did not check into what needs to be done to do something and then blames things on someone else because they cannot fess up to their mistakes and be honest about it then change their story and make up new excuses. Wow.

I would hate for Allison to have to print a retraction on the event since the reasons were not true that were told to her, I know that she only wants to put the truth out there but these nonsense politics, attitudes and personalities are affecting lots of events, articles, forums and people's lives when none of this needs to happen at all but there are people out there that don't care about anyone but themself and will damage, hurt and destroy anyone that gets in their way, the only thing that is worse is when more of the same mentality get together and the destruction amplifies. They really need some serious mental help and/or medication.
 
Ron Musgraves said:
Your the one who opened my eyes , maybe you should take your own advice?

It's my bbs remember I can do what ever I want.

Oh yeah Beth always right to, so remember you owe her apologies.

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Ron, I am honestly not trying to step on your toes but I have no idea what you are talking about. Apologize to Beth for what? Take my own advice on what? I think moving on has come. I joined the UAMCC and PWNA as favors to you and others and both have done nothing but destroy this industry. Peace to all.
 
offdutyfireman said:
Ron, I am honestly not trying to step on your toes but I have no idea what you are talking about. Apologize to Beth for what? Take my own advice on what? I think moving on has come. I joined the UAMCC and PWNA as favors to you and others and both have done nothing but destroy this industry. Peace to all.
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Didn't say your stepping on Toes, will keep the industry safe for you. UAMCC actually did protect your business in NC. I guess your just not aware of it, they wanted reclaim on exterior cleaning. Peace to you and please Keep making money providing for your family.
 
offdutyfireman said:
Maybe I lost something in the reading. I followed the link and saw people calling out AC for the crap he is selling and the claims he makes. We did the exact same thing here. If a newbie or someone that doesn't know better wants to buy it, great. Fool and his money are easily parted and AC makes a buck, who cares. I didn't see anything in the post over there that has anything to do with the posts that are being made here. Maybe I am just not following it. I am not taking up for anyone there. Just don't see why someone going after someone hurting other contractors gets bashed when we are trying to do the same thing to the PWN@ .Maybe Jeannie C Riley said it best. Don't confuse the good fight with petty fighting.
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Hello William!

I'm pointing out the differences between our fights.

AC is selling his system based on the fact that it can be used to go out and make money now and it doesn't require lobbying the government to change rules or one's ability to try to sell overpriced services that just don't sell. It also doesn't require $100,000 investment like Jim tries to claim you need to clean garages, or $50,000 like Al Patterson first claimed he spent (that now sits idle).

AC's units are hot. They are making money. Here, do a search on SEARCHTEMPEST and see how many of them are for sale on craigslist. I will save you the time there are ZERO.

It would be different if the PWNA, Robert and Jim sold equipment based on the fact that it is easier to use or cleaned better.

The point is, our fight with the PWNA is a valid one that could potentially harm most contractors.

The fight with AC is just a bunch of part-timers who don't like AC and don't want to compete with him.

The fact that Beth not only allows it, but encourages it shows that she is as clueless and useless to this industry as you have claimed all along.

So we are finally in agreement. lol.
 
I am always around. I often prefer to listen. To many spend time talking and not enough listening. But when it comes to drama I have learned to tune it out. It is not worth the time. I used to worry about all of this drama now I focus on my family and myself(hobbies). If help is needed I am always a call, text or social media away.
 
The advantage to telling the truth is that you don't have to remember the stories you have been telling. What I find more interesting is the poor and intentionally deceptive information that is put out, and some buy into it whole heartedly. That so many people that are or have been trained to detect liars are buying into it makes it particularly disconcerting.
This industry has become exponentially more fascinating in the past few years. Those that are considered to be leaders and super successf businessmen really makes me wonder what the end game is going to be.
 
Kory said:
I am always around. I often prefer to listen. To many spend time talking and not enough listening. But when it comes to drama I have learned to tune it out. It is not worth the time. I used to worry about all of this drama now I focus on my family and myself(hobbies). If help is needed I am always a call, text or social media away.
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I too just listen and read all the post. I stay out of the DRAMA and concentrate on making my business GROW.
 
Tony Shelton said:
It was all BS Doug.

Jim told some people he couldn't clean the garage because of Labor Union issues. Those people told me so I tried to help.

Then he told some people he couldn't clean it because I interfered and kept him from getting the permit from the AHJs. ---- The emails prove that not only is that false, but they never even required him to get a permit in the first place.

Now he has Allison unknowingly falsely reporting that the reason he couldn't clean it was because the Rio required a higher insurance coverage. Rio events staff says that is false too.
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He didn't even bring down his pressure washing trailer from California. What does that tell you about what his intentions were on cleaning a garage?

What is the matter with these people Doug?
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I will look into it. However, remember I was there at the Rio when Jim received news about the insurance issues and the committee was looking at the paperwork and discussing options. I can't say with 100% certainty that it was legit because I didn't actually read the documents, but I can say that it certainly appeared legit. If I find I need to run a retraction, I don't have a problem doing that either.
 
Allison Hester said:
I will look into it. However, remember I was there at the Rio when Jim received news about the insurance issues and the committee was looking at the paperwork and discussing options. I can't say with 100% certainty that it was legit because I didn't actually read the documents, but I can say that it certainly appeared legit. If I find I need to run a retraction, I don't have a problem doing that either.
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Liability coverage to work at the Rio and most casinos here is 2 mil.

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