Mosmatic Recovery Surface Cleaner with Gum Nozzle

Thanks for the link, I wonder what it will do with petrified gum here in Texas, kind of like what you saw in Vegas.
 
I think that they did not know what they were doing, that gum nozzle should have wiped out that gum fast, it was fresh gum, not old and petrified gum.

Maybe they had both the spray bar spinning and the gum nozzle working at the same time?
 
Christopher said:
I think that they did not know what they were doing, that gum nozzle should have wiped out that gum fast, it was fresh gum, not old and petrified gum.

Maybe they had both the spray bar spinning and the gum nozzle working at the same time?
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Will post my feedback on mosmatic AG 29.102 gum nozzle when I do testing in the coming weeks.
 
I am thinking that with all those smaller jets coming from the gum nozzle, it should pierce the gum in a lot of areas and make it faster to remove instead of a larger fan nozzle working on a large piece of the gum.

It would be interesting to see that nozzle by itself on the wand working on gum, I am guessing that it will clean gum faster than a regular fan nozzle but not cause damage like a zero degree nozzle.

If that nozzle was not over $450 by itself I would give it a try on some hard-to-clean gum and see how it does but at that price I will have to pass.
 
Nigel, I think that Russ at Southside looked for it a while back, I think he knows where to get it at, I think it was overseas.
 
I'm guessing the one on the mosmatics is not the same as the imported one that was $900+. Does mosmatic list it as a replacement part? They are probably not the manufacturer either.
 
Did not realize there was so much conversation about the gum nozzle, thanks Chris,

I guess I would be the first on here to test and report back,.... the only thing is I did not get the straight one, got the one with the right angle bend for the surface cleaner. Looking at the photo I posted the SS part looks like it could be twisted off for the "gold" (at that price it should be "gold", lol)
 
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Am I missing something with this 10 nozzle head? The grime removing capability comes from the velocity and mass and temp of the fluid hitting the surface, along with the chemical solubility of that liquid. Water is a pretty good solvent and with chemical augmentation to attack oils, even better. This head looks like a collection of 0-5 degree heads that each gets 1/10 of the total GPM. The total apperature is probably tuned to match the same as a single nozzle (unverified). So this is not like 10 heads each with 5 GPM. I suspect that the scraping efficiency of a 15 degree is superior. But again, just musing from the arm chair since I don't have one to test. Will look forward to Nigel's real-world evaluation.
 
I think you are missing the whole point of the conversation about the GUM REMOVAL NOZZLE.

There are no chemicals used for gum removal, if you think that there are, you are not in the commercial gum cleaning business as we use hot water to melt then remove the gum. Many of us have tried many different chemicals to try to make gum easier to remove but have not found anything that helps loosen the gum let alone be cost effective with the 1000's of pieces of gum that are on neglected properties.

We do not use a lot of pressure to remove the gum, it is mostly hot water.

This nozzle is using a different approach to removing gum.

With all the nozzles put together, it will probably be equal to a regular zero degree nozzle but with the smaller zero degree streams it might not damage weak concrete and it probably helps puncture the gum in many places at the same time resulting in faster removal (probably), we are guessing. Comparing this nozzle to a regular fan nozzle, it might remove the gum faster.

The only way to really see would be a side by side comparison, maybe pick a spot of concrete, count the gum, mark between the two areas and use 2 identical machines or use one machine and time it but video tape the whole thing.

Nobody mentioned or suggested the nozzle would be like 10 heads with 5gpm each as it is obvious that it is smaller streams coming from a regular hose from a regular machine, just a different type of nozzle utilizing different ideas for removing gum.

It will be interesting to see Nigel's videos testing the nozzle, hope he does a side by side comparison or counts out pieces of gum and tests how long each different nozzle takes to remove the same amount of gum.

Let us know when you do the testing Nigel.

Thanks.
 
High Mark, I had some thoughts about the nozzle the other night, I came up with a few pros for the nozzle, they seem to be zero degree pin jets, thus they would provide two advantages: 1) the heated water temperature should be higher since there is no immediate expansion after exiting the nozzle: and 2) zero degrees intensify impact immensely, probably the reason they had to have such quantity to reduce the impact , yet at the same time increasing the number of pin jets increases the contact area and thus removal speed would be increased.

The other issue I have is I have an 8gpm washer, at full flow with less than summer inlet water temps, I would have to preheat (I dont want to short change the nozzle), or install a valve to cut the flow a little. The two people that I have communicated with, have used this nozzle with 4 gpm units.
 
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Chris, I have seen one video (sorry now I did not bookmark it) that had the nozzle in the surface cleaner and down stream chemical injection at the nozzle, probably to aid in easier removal (look like and European back drop in video)
 
Excitement goes out the window????

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Here is my first review: BE AWARE !!!



Mosmatic Air Surface Cleaner with gum remover FL-AHB-KAU 520 (80.786) comes with gum nozzle Part number 29.102 described as an accessory Poly-1-Nozzle by mosmatic.

The specs on the nozzle from the manufacturer Cleantecs part# 99.9761.030 has a manufacturer gum nozzle chart flow rating of 2.75 gpm at 3480 psi (10.4 liters/min at 240 bar).


Yes I am a bit disappointed (I wish this was made clear on their website or the distributors), I guess the theory thinking is to cut the flow in half because

1) all that flow is not need with such high impact of acupuncture diameter size needles
2) to elevate the heat, but thats not such a good idea if you are any distance away from the pressure washer, its just going to take the hot water to long to get to the surface cleaner.

I will call mosmatic tomorrow and facilitate an exchange for the 99.9761.060 (that would be a 5.5 gpm flow rating @ 3500 psi), I dont want to field test it with before then.

I have some other comments/improvements for mosmatic, I will chime in later.
 
I would definately exchange it for the right nozzle, maybe they think that everyone uses small flow presssure washers in their market?

I really think that with the right nozzle and hot water, this nozzle should clean faster than regular fan nozzles.
 
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Just for you Chris C


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I would like to see that nozzle with old, petrified gum, not relatively fresh or new gum like on the videos.

Thanks for the video Nigel.
 
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