Like I said, I don't know you and don't know when you are joking or not, you just posted like you think what we do is weak. I apologize but you touched a nerve with me. I am a pretty open minded dude and what has gone on before, with you and other KEC guys is between you guys, but when its seems like you try to drag me into it thats where I got heated. Maybe I was wrong in reading into what you said, but like you I am proud and passionate about what I do. As far as flat work goes, I am sure you have me beat hands down as far as dirty cleanings go. Cleaning up nasty dumpster pads that are closed in and covered in human crap and vomit and grease from a leaking grease trap would be the grossed and stinkiest I have ever cleaned (flatwork wise anyway). I am not here to judge who has the dirtiest job and hardest job, it doesn't matter really. I just speak on how much dirtier I am at the end of the night now as opposed to before when I did flatwork. I know there are a lot of good guys on here that care about doing the best possible job in their chosen areas of expertise, to me thats what is important. I respect the fact that you and others have successful businesses doing what it is you do, I just like the same respect back, if I have it great, if not then I will move on.