Inspections

For the record, I will post pictures of shoddy work, but I will not do what was on that page. The only people I show who's actual work was being done to are AHJ's and certifying bodies so that the company can get corrected.

That page is just slamming a guy for the equipment has has or doesn't have. It never showed what kind of work he does which could be excellent. I have seen guys do wonders with a pump sprayer and a bucket full of scrapers, conversely I have seen guys with very professional looking rigs do nothing more than a hood wash.

Matt
 
Squirtgun said:
Would have been fine for Lance had his people done a better job,but stealing accounts to do the same bad work is like beating your head on a wall.
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Agreed Buddy,,
 
Creating a rat squad will not accomplish anything but animosity. It might work if the rat squad reported to the Fire Marshall. I dont think it will have much effect reporting on ecah other.
If you look hard enough I am sure you can find something to criticize about someone elses work. Especially if you want the job. You could even show the restaurant owner fake photo's.
I feel like this is the debate team with no judges.
 
As long as the person doing the inspecting has a dog in the hunt the inspection is suspect regardless. Would the competitor inspector show the pictures if the pictures show a good job?
 
cgibson said:
For the record, I will post pictures of shoddy work, but I will not do what was on that page. The only people I show who's actual work was being done to are AHJ's and certifying bodies so that the company can get corrected.

That page is just slamming a guy for the equipment has has or doesn't have. It never showed what kind of work he does which could be excellent. I have seen guys do wonders with a pump sprayer and a bucket full of scrapers, conversely I have seen guys with very professional looking rigs do nothing more than a hood wash.

Matt
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I agree and I should have been more specific in my wording , sorry , but what I really meant was he was like the fleet police in that if you do bad work you got called out , but I dont like the way he slams the competition for what type of equipment they do or dont have.

Hey Ron what would he have said about that dually you posted a pic of ?
here it is !
 

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Russ S said:
I agree and I should have been more specific in my wording , sorry , but what I really meant was he was like the fleet police in that if you do bad work you got called out , but I dont like the way he slams the competition for what type of equipment they do or dont have.

Hey Ron what would he have said about that dually you posted a pic of ?
here it is !
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Nice looking working rig
 
Przrat said:
Creating a rat squad will not accomplish anything but animosity. It might work if the rat squad reported to the Fire Marshall. I dont think it will have much effect reporting on ecah other.
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We report to AHJ's, not to each other. The idea is not to get anyone in trouble, it's to correct the cleaner so he can do his job better and raise the level of professionalism of the entire industry.

Phil Ackland has similar views on shoddy workmanship, although we are not affiliated, we share the same goals for the industry:

http://www.propowerwash.com/board/upload/showthread.php?t=4275
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That reality is that, if a person sees or knows of a public safety hazard or fire risk, they have a responsibility to report it, period. Poorly installed or improperly cleaned kitchen exhaust systems are a fire hazard. All exhaust cleaners use the "risk of fire" as a sales tool to one degree or another.

Cleaners who claim that they didn't know anything, yet are "Certified" are deluding themselves. You can't have one (the claim to be certified) without the other (knowledge of what you are certified to -- #96, PWNA or IKECA Standard). Insurance companies and the court are not going to buy this "Certified ignorance" argument.

So, if you or your crews wish to use ignorance as the reason why you "didn't tell the restaurant that they had a serious problem," with obvious installation problems, access or cleanability of the exhaust system, then I would suggest that you stay as far away from any knowledge that NFPA 96 even exists.

For those of you who are Certified, it is too late. In your case the only hope is education. Maybe "training" your crews (which, as your certified selves know, is what it says in #96) will save you. Otherwise I see no defense for you. In fact, I may see you in court.
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Przrat said:
If you look hard enough I am sure you can find something to criticize about someone elses work. Especially if you want the job. You could even show the restaurant owner fake photo's.
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True, and if it is all about the dollar, I am sure that would be the case. For us it's more of a passion, the money is secondary.
 
David Saulque said:
Would the competitor inspector show the pictures if the pictures show a good job?
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Absolutely. I have personally sent photos to my competitors of great work done by their crews out of professional courtesy.
 
True, and if it is all about the dollar, I am sure that would be the case. For us it's more of a passion, the money is secondary.
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Thats nice, but for me it's all about the money. This job is bad enough without it turning into charity work for restaurant owners. Those people get paid COD, and they want us to bill them. Its all about the money and I want it now.__________________
 
Funny -- I haven't been on this bbs for 6 months, now I'm hooked again.

To put a bit more depth to this thread about inspections, see the following links. One is to my course schedule. The other is an advert for the next seminar in Vancouver WA in Jan.

Let me know they work for you and thoughts???

By the way if anyone can make Vancovuer WA, I could really use someone to run the video camera and assist in inspections. But Please know that this is not entirely my party, so I don't know how admissions are being handled.

http://www.philackland.com/investigation.html

http://www.wregion5.com:80/filsc.htm
 
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